Review Post match discussion/vent thread vs Gold Coast

[Woodson]

If you think this year is s**t where were you in 1973..79..80..81..82..83..84..85.86..87..88..89...90..91..92..2000 and right up until 2013?
Because if my memory serves me correct they were all pretty s**t years aside from some Brownlows...maybe Blight kicking a ton and some one off finals wins...so your age makes a big difference because if you think half way through a season is the time to jump ship and tell us that 2015 is the worst year...I and we all have a right to ask i would have thought because there are lots more crap years than that...and that's my time right Horace ?..

1979… North were undefeated after Round 8.. played in the Prelim.. if Glendinning doesn't go down with a hammy before that Prelim game… who knows.. GF beckoned. Def not a shitty year.

1980.. Aside the Escort Cup win.. Barassi's last year.. North fell short on Elimination Final.. whilst the team that come behind to beat North that day… went to the GF.

1982.. Big recruits.. new era. Made the finals again. Beat the aliens from Mork and Mindy Hill again. Blighty kicked 100. Can't be a failed season for the fan.

1983.. Lost Blighty to Woodville but under Cable, North finished top of the ladder after H & A season. Thumped the Bluebaggers by 100+ and then smashed the Dogs by 100+ in back to back weeks.. gotta be a pass… for much of the season. Don't wanna know about the last 7 quarters of September.

1985.. Made the finals under Kanga Kennedy. How about that comeback in the Elim Final vs the Bluebaggers?? At least North rebounded from a horrid '84.

 

[shinboner spiggs]

We have a highly reactive coach, and delays kill you in this industry. We're bowling on a green top and after 10 overs, with countless balls flying through vacant areas of the cordon, Scott is yet to put a slip or two in.

 

[ChopChopDigDig]

Defensive positioning and zone structures have improved greatly this season, imo. The run and gun that we started in 2013 (and used very effectively by Port last year) has had every good side put in some serious work into negating it.

To me, it's no coincidence Port are finding it a lot more difficult this season as well. Freeground holes are being effectively plugged, and there is less room to run into for breathing space and pressure free disposal. The defensive effort of the midfield is exacerbated by our terrible disposal under pressure with players completely out of position on the inevitable turnover. I think they are still trying to take the game on and be offensively agressive. The ring a ring a rosy handball in the back half is indicative of us not having any alternate strategy to launch an attack from the back half.....our previous strength.

I said after Round 2, we've been worked out. The coaching department have dropped the ball on advancing the gameplan.

Yep, and teams like Collingwood are looking good because they've changed their game from open run and carry, to maniacal tackling and pressure. Hell, take a look at the Saints vs Bombers yesterday, Saints pressure on the ball carrier was amazing.

I've been bleating on about this for 3 or 4 years now, but North cannot tackle or put ball carrier pressure on. Opposition teams do not fear getting tackled by us, take us on and move the ball freely.

THIS is the reason why we allow so many opposition I50, lack of pressure on the ball carrier. THIS is the reason why we have so few offensive I50, we don't win the ball through the middle enough.

 

[glenn2479]

Yep, and teams like Collingwood are looking good because they've changed their game from open run and carry, to maniacal tackling and pressure. Hell, take a look at the Saints vs Bombers yesterday, Saints pressure on the ball carrier was amazing.

I've been bleating on about this for 3 or 4 years now, but North cannot tackle or put ball carrier pressure on. Opposition teams do not fear getting tackled by us, take us on and move the ball freely.

THIS is the reason why we allow so many opposition I50, lack of pressure on the ball carrier. THIS is the reason why we have so few offensive I50, we don't win the ball through the middle enough.

100% agree with this..... You don't need to be a brain scientist or a rocket surgeon to see what's going on nowadays. We are stuck in 2012 with zones and corralling. Teams are so good with their ball use these days ( except us) that they cut us to shreds because we are coached to protect 'space'. Watch the hawks, dogs, Saints, Freo, pies. Etc etc. As soon as the opposition player gets the ball they run a million miles an hour AT the MAN!! They don't stand 10 meters off with their arms spread out dancing on the spot. I still can't believe we didn't recruit Goddard, the best finger pointer in the game to improve our finger pointing skills.

 

[koshari]

anyway i think its time to change the thead tile to
Post Season discussion/vent thread

 

[gokangas]

I am stilled totally shattered on Monday morning. What a major disappointment the season has been. Something has to give, now.

 

[Twinkletoes]

The fact the Ashes first test starts on Wednesday night with State of Origin game 3 also on bothers me more than anything coming out of Arden St this week, and that's a symptom of the apathy repeated performances like Saturday night's creates. To feel that way mid season is a shocking state of affairs.

 

[Mav]

The fact the Ashes first test starts on Wednesday night with State of Origin game 3 also on bothers me more than anything coming out of Arden St this week, and that's a symptom of the apathy repeated performances like Saturday night's creates. To feel that way mid season is a shocking state of affairs.

yep, come Saturday night I'll be more interested in watching the Cricket, The Tour and Wimbledon.....and I hate watching womens tennis.

 

[Mr Reliable]

To ChopChopDigDig and glenn2479, yep words like "maniacal" and "million miles an hour" do NOT describe our style of play, particularly when we don't have the ball. "Frenetic" and "fanatical" might be another two that don't apply to us. And "relentless".

Even "enthusiastic" only applies on occasions, such as in the first quarter after a bad game when the rigorous review has produced an extra effort or when we're coming from behind and have a run on against poor opposition.

It also helps explain why, when we're going bad, our opponents get uncontested possessions by the truckload, all over the ground. We sit there wondering how it can be that they're wearing us like a cheap suit yet we're giving them 5 metres head start. In the past it's been fobbed off by posters on here blaming lack of pressure in the midfield but surely zones and guarding space has something to do with it as well?

 

[Twinkletoes]

yep, come Saturday night I'll be more interested in watching the Cricket, The Tour and Wimbledon.....and I hate watching womens tennis.

Yep to all of the above. My folks come along to every Melbourne game with us so they can hang out with the kids, and hopefully enjoy a win and sing the song with them at the end, and I've detected them making up excuses why they may find next Saturday night's game difficult to attend already. They'd normally walk over broken glass to get to a game with their grandkids.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

If the players don't give a *, I'm not sure I should either.

 

[Twinkletoes]

If the players don't give a ****, I'm not sure I should either.

The shitful thing is, with this tease of a side, we'll likely come out of the blocks and pile on a ten goal first quarter (scraping over the line as G-Town mount their inevitable comeback) then prance around like last week was the bye's fault. It f***ing shits me!

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

The shitful thing is, with this tease of a side, we'll likely come out of the blocks and pile on a ten goal first quarter (scraping over the line as G-Town mount their inevitable comeback) then prance around like last week was the bye's fault. It f***ing shits me!

There is always an excuse with this team. When will it stop?

 

[Archer_11]

It's all bad isn't it. I can honestly say I didn't feel a thing watching this game. Not one twig of emotion. This is who we have become, a bunch of soulless vessels that stand for nothing. I agree that there is every chance we'll come out and have a great game next week and even the week after, but in this case even for optimists such as myself the damage has been done. We don't have a heart.

The worst part is there really is a chance we'll sneak into the finals, then a chance after that we'll win the first two finals again. Our best form is still good enough. What we showed against Sydney would beat a lot of teams. And if that happens, we'll get sold false hope once again and the rebuild we so desperately need will be ignored for another year. My great fear with the expanded comp and our reduced ability to rebuild is that we are set to be mid table plodders from now until some magical future where we have a new coach and administration that knows how to build and foster a winning culture. There is no guarantee that will happen when JB and Scott moves on, that could be 10, 20 or 30 years off.

The only thing nagging at the back of my head is that Saturday was so very very bad, maybe we have reached our lowest point and we won't quite see this disgraceful level again any time soon. Maybe it will be the catalyst. But I doubt it. Seriously doubt it.

 

[utility]

If the players don't give a ****, I'm not sure I should either.

This is the first game in a long, long time I can't be f***ed getting a copy and watching a replay.

I've had enough. Better things to do in life. (But I will be there this Saturday)

 

[utility]

We are dead set last in 1%ers, and we average 35 a game. The Hawks and Collingwood are pushing 50.

Our pressure stats aren't great, and when we don't tackle, it's no wonder our opposition inside 50 count is high. You watch the Dog's out-hunt us when we play them. Good defensive structures are an all over the ground display and we just don't defend well enough for long enough. When we're on, we're on, but like every other aspect of our game, we execute in spurts. It's ridiculously frustrating.

We lack discipline. It's time to move experienced players on. Not sure that's going to happen.