Opinion What do you think our Draft Strategy will be? (Poll)

[76woodenspooners]

We could very well be out of the draft by pick 5 ... So Jack Frost is an option for pick 30.

We currently have 33 on the senior list.

We need minimum 5 to fill out our senior list to fill it out to 38 (maximum 7 to fill in out to 40)

The 5 would be Pick 5, Moore, Varcoe, Greenwood and Frost. In that scenario we'd pick up 5 new category A rookies and retain Gault to make 6 total category A rookies + Mason Cox as a category B rookie.

This was our strategy two years ago.

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Hine goes into the draft with maximum flexibility.

He could not use picks 30 or 48, and have 6 on our cat A rookie list (as in 2012)

He could use picks 30 or 48, and have 4 on our cat A rookie list (as in 2013)

He could use picks 30 and/or 48 (or even later!), and have up to 6 on our cat A rookie list if the club makes additional delistings (Who would be candidates? Armstrong? ???)

 

[76woodenspooners]

What do you think our draft strategy will be?

See poll options above.

The "delist" refers to additional delistings to come.

 

[suspect footskills]

If we end up taking anyone with 48 I wouldn't mind seeing us take a punt on Ryan Lim. He looks to have what it takes and his highlights are full off beautifully weighted kicks both long and short. I've read he's got a consistency problem with his kicking though and they're either perfect or busts with little in between. I reckon he could become a really damaging outside type with his penetrating disposal and run. It seems "outside" is a dirty word around here but the team needs balance and our short, contested ball specialists are proving unable to move the ball with anything resembling efficiency.

 

[Pendles!]

We could very well be out of the draft by pick 5 ... So Jack Frost is an option for pick 30.

We currently have 33 on the senior list.

We need minimum 5 to fill out our senior list to fill it out to 38 (maximum 7 to fill in out to 40)

The 5 would be Pick 5, Moore, Varcoe, Greenwood and Frost. In that scenario we'd pick up 5 new category A rookies and retain Gault to make 6 total category A rookies + Mason Cox as a category B rookie.

This was our strategy two years ago.

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Hine goes into the draft with maximum flexibility.

He could not use picks 30 or 48, and have 6 on our cat A rookie list (as in 2012)

He could use picks 30 or 48, and have 4 on our cat A rookie list (as in 2013)

He could use picks 30 and/or 48 (or even later!), and have up to 6 on our cat A rookie list if the club makes additional delistings (Who would be candidates? Armstrong? ???)

Not sure I see the point in that. Wouldn't that mean we are by passing better players so we can have more on the rookie list? We would basically be taking the 100-120th best players instead of 30th and 48th best players.

 

[swoop42]

We currently have 37 "permanent" senior listed players including all of Greenwood, Varcoe, Crisp and Moore.

We then have 2 upgraded rookies in Gault and Frost who can be returned to the rookie list if we wish I would assume.

Gault will be you'd think. That would then leave us with 2 live selections on draft day in 5 and 30.

With Frost we have the choice up upgrading him on draft day to become a "permanent" senior listed player or downgrade him to the rookie list.

If we downgrade him we can then add him back to the senior list prior to the season with Scharenberg added to the LTI injury list.

Take this route and we'll be able to use pick 48 as a live selection on draft day.

Of course we may have more delistings to come of one or two players.

We will be using 5 and 30 on draft day that must is sure, quality players can be found at 30 and I'll be surprised if we don't retain the ability to use pick 48 as a "live" selection as well. Some Hine specials should still be available around that mark.

 

[76woodenspooners]

SO, do I understand this correctly. If we use pick 30 than more than likely we need to delist someone?

Can we wait and see who is available at 30 and make that decision than? I mean, the club might be hedging their bets and should that player be available than Player x gets delisted and we draft or do delistings need to finalised before.

I'll admit I don't know anything about the process.

There's a thread on our board titled "What do you think our draft strategy will be?" that sets out in a poll what the most probable options will be.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Not sure I see the point in that. Wouldn't that mean we are by passing better players so we can have more on the rookie list? We would basically be taking the 100-120th best players instead of 30th and 48th best players.

"The better players" you mention are judged according to their schoolboy footy skills and draft camp results.

The advantage with bringing in 6 rookies is that the club can see how they respond to the club environment, how they cope with being a full time professional athlete, and the club getting a better idea of their strengths and weaknesses by testing them in-house.

And then just prior to the start of season next year two lucky rookies can be elevated (as what happened with Hudson and Frost at the start of the 2013 season).

What's complicating that is that we get two LTI elevations anyway for Caff and Scharenberg. I'd have thought that Gault would get one of those.

So if we do go down the "maximum rookie" route then we'll have 7 rookies (6 cat A: Gault + 5 newbies; 1 cat B: Cox) and we can elevate 4 at start of the year, 1 mid year, and 2 will need to go back onto the rookie list when Caff and Scharenberg come back.

 

[nahnah]

We could very well be out of the draft by pick 5 ... So Jack Frost is an option for pick 30.

We currently have 33 on the senior list.

We need minimum 5 to fill out our senior list to fill it out to 38 (maximum 7 to fill in out to 40)

The 5 would be Pick 5, Moore, Varcoe, Greenwood and Frost. In that scenario we'd pick up 5 new category A rookies and retain Gault to make 6 total category A rookies + Mason Cox as a category B rookie.

This was our strategy two years ago.

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Hine goes into the draft with maximum flexibility.

He could not use picks 30 or 48, and have 6 on our cat A rookie list (as in 2012)

He could use picks 30 or 48, and have 4 on our cat A rookie list (as in 2013)

He could use picks 30 and/or 48 (or even later!), and have up to 6 on our cat A rookie list if the club makes additional delistings (Who would be candidates? Armstrong? ???)

Doesn't every team have to draft at least 3 players? Pick 30 will be used, 48 might be upgrade Frost

 

[TradeDraft]

Been Report that we are Intrested in George Burbery that was De-Listed from Geelong

 

[mattys123]

I went with the 40 list option but can see us adjusting our method on draft day, just like we did last year with Marsh and Kelly.

Ideally we'd like to use pick 48, but if it comes to draft day and Hine simply doesn't like anyone left in the draft at pick 48, or thinks that the players he does like will last to the rookie draft, then we'll adjust our approach accordingly.

We need an experienced ruck rookie I reckon, even a state level one that can come in and act as pure backup for Witts and Grundy should both go down.

As always we have to just trust in Hine, this is his time to shine, and he usually does.

 

[Chilli Con Incarnate]

It depends on what we do with the ruck situation. If we rookie draft a mature body, then we might play it the same as Huddo and have one short. Otherwise I'd say 40.

 

[domin8tors]

I went with the 40 list option but can see us adjusting our method on draft day, just like we did last year with Marsh and Kelly.

Ideally we'd like to use pick 48, but if it comes to draft day and Hine simply doesn't like anyone left in the draft at pick 48, or thinks that the players he does like will last to the rookie draft, then we'll adjust our approach accordingly.

We need an experienced ruck rookie I reckon, even a state level one that can come in and act as pure backup for Witts and Grundy should both go down.

As always we have to just trust in Hine, this is his time to shine, and he usually does.

not sure if we need a ruck as a rookie, with Grundy / Witts / White / Gault / Keefe who will have limited opurtunity with reid and brown back and Moore if the 5 previous mentioned are injured our ruck stocks are ok

 

[NT.Thunder]

Was actually wondering if we would look at Giles during draft period.

What's the deal with Matthew Panos, would we be interested in him at all?

I'm in the no idea basket - many would agree with this

 

[76woodenspooners]

Doesn't every team have to draft at least 3 players? Pick 30 will be used, 48 might be upgrade Frost

I think the rule is that each team must make at least 3 senior list changes ... Which we've already achieved with Varcoe, Greenwood and Moore.

 

[Bay Pie]

Only 2 list spots to fill based on our current list.

OUT: (7) From our 40 man senior list. Lumumba, Maxwell, Ball, Clarke, Beams, Lynch & Hudson (rookie listed but elevated to 40 man senior list)

IN: (5) Greenwood, Varcoe, Crispo, Darcy Moore & Jack Frost (given a 2 year deal, so assumed elevated to senior list for 2015)

I think me may try to move Ramsay onto the rookie list and then elevate him via Long term injury list to Scharenberg.

That would leave 3 live picks 5, 30 & 48. Pick 9 on Darcy Moore and pick 85 for Jack Frost, picks but known picks.

Leaves 2 live rookie picks. Gault & Ramsay on Rookie list.

 

[TradeDraft]

.Leaves 2 live rookie picks. Gault & Ramsay on Rookie list.

Ramsey is on the Senior List

 

[mattys123]

not sure if we need a ruck as a rookie, with Grundy / Witts / White / Gault / Keefe who will have limited opurtunity with reid and brown back and Moore if the 5 previous mentioned are injured our ruck stocks are ok

So if Witts and Grundy both went down, you'd be happy with Gault and White as our primary rucks at senior level?

I just think we need (hate to say it) but a Cam Wood type, someone who isn't really that good at senior level, but can fill in if you get in a real bind.

Anyway, that's more suited to another thread maybe.

 

[TradeDraft]

So if Witts and Grundy both went down, you'd be happy with Gault and White as our primary rucks at senior level?

I just think we need (hate to say it) but a Cam Wood type, someone who isn't really that good at senior level, but can fill in if you get in a real bind.

Anyway, that's more suited to another thread maybe.

So who in the State League who we could Draft or do we chase Angus Graham?

 

[Medders123]

I went with the 40 players on the SL. Even if we offer a rookie contract to a mature state league ruck, we can still upgrade him later because Macaffer + Scharenberg will on the Long Term Injury List

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Ramsey is on the Senior List

He means we would drop Ramsay to the rookie list Dave

 

[Baltimore Jack]

I think the rule is that each team must make at least 3 senior list changes ... Which we've already achieved with Varcoe, Greenwood and Moore.

No, it means we have to draft in 3 players of which any upgraded Rookies are counted towards the 3

 

[domin8tors]

So if Witts and Grundy both went down, you'd be happy with Gault and White as our primary rucks at senior level?

I just think we need (hate to say it) but a Cam Wood type, someone who isn't really that good at senior level, but can fill in if you get in a real bind.

Anyway, that's more suited to another thread maybe.

I think that what Gault and White would offer around the ground would be more then what a 2nd grade ruckman would offer in tapouts.

 

[76woodenspooners]

No, it means we have to draft in 3 players of which any upgraded Rookies are counted towards the 3

But what if we hadn't picked up Langdon and Marsh last year? (which were decisions made on the spot)

We would have only drafted two (Freeman and Scharenberg)?

 

[Baird]

But what if we hadn't picked up Langdon and Marsh last year? (which were decisions made on the spot)

We would have only drafted two (Freeman and Scharenberg)?

I think we elevated Dwyer last year.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

But what if we hadn't picked up Langdon and Marsh last year? (which were decisions made on the spot)

We would have only drafted two (Freeman and Scharenberg)?

Dwyer = 3

Edit: too late already posted