Worst Case Scenario: Pav gets injured

[BananaOnTheRun]

Anyone who doubts the value of genuine marking targets in the forward line should go back and watch the last qtr of the grand final again.

This along with watching last night's match has be convinced we're no chance for the flag without another marking KPF to help out Pav. Even if this player doesn't kick any goals, we need him to take the pressure off Pav, and either create a contest to mark the ball or bring it down to our crumbers.

Pav is our only genuine KPF. We can't rely on cameos from ruckmen to help us there. We need another KPF.

 

[Allikat]

Anyone who doubts the value of genuine marking targets in the forward line should go back and watch the last qtr of the grand final again.

Or any of Saints games this season (except for last week ) and watch their abysmal kicking to Reiwoldt.

This along with watching last night's match has be convinced we're no chance for the flag without another marking KPF to help out Pav. Even if this player doesn't kick any goals, we need him to take the pressure off Pav, and either create a contest to mark the ball or bring it down to our crumbers.

Pav is our only genuine KPF. We can't rely on cameos from ruckmen to help us there. We need another KPF.

This is why I'm hoping Apeness gets a few more chances next year, or this year if we have a few injury problems and need to fill some spots. He kept the backmen bloody busy for a kid that didn't kick a goal.

 

[Kram]

I was hoping that they game Apeness 1 more game but playing in last weeks debacle probably wouldn't have done him much good anyway..

 

[BananaOnTheRun]

This is why I'm hoping Apeness gets a few more chances next year, or this year if we have a few injury problems and need to fill some spots. He kept the backmen bloody busy for a kid that didn't kick a goal.

Yeah, I think it's Apeness, rather than Tabs at the moment. Apeman has more of a presence that we need up forward.

 

[BananaOnTheRun]

Hmmm.

 

[freo_baby]

Pav gone down to the rooms.... Someone hold this guy down!

 

[Wizard]

I'd say on this performance with or without him we ain't a legit contender. Look like s**t.

 

[pokerspiv]

Rather than start a new thread I thought I'd throw my question here.

Do you think the height advantage gained with KPF's like Tabs and Ape outweighs the lack of forward pressure they are able to supply.

Every coach in the history of football other than Ross Lyon seems to think so.

 

[pokerspiv]

Is our forward line struggling then, because we are playing a resting ruck instead of a forward that can ruck?
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No, the issue is that we are 1 tall short on most teams. So they have 3 tall defenders to play on our 2 tall forwards. Playing 2 talls + a ruckman in the forward line means they have to play man on man and gives all the talls more of a chance to have a 1 on 1 contest.

 

[clogged]

Every coach in the history of football other than Ross Lyon seems to think so.

Yeah nah. Stop talking rubbish.

The recruiters haven't picked up a half-talented forward for years.

 

[GordonT]

Self fulfilling prophecy....
OP should be ashamed

 

[pokerspiv]

Yeah nah. Stop talking rubbish.

The recruiters haven't picked up a half-talented forward for years.

Not sure how you could know that, since we've never given one more than a couple of games to find out.

Was Apeness so terrible he deserved to be dropped? He seemed to be doing what was asked of him to me. It's not his fault our mids didn't kick it to him.

Lyon clearly rates tackling pressure more than he rates talls. His selections are evidence of that. And on that note he is in disagreement with every other VFL/AFL coach in the history of the league.

 

[clogged]

Was Apeness so terrible he deserved to be dropped?

Yes.

He didn't kick a goal.

 

[pokerspiv]

Jeremy Cameron had 5 goalless games in his first season.

Like I said, our mids didn't honour his leads. In fact our mids rarely honour the leads of anyone except Pavlich and Ballantyne. We are very predictable on that front. No coincidence we have one of the worst i50-score conversion rates of any top 8 team.

 

[clogged]

Jeremy Cameron had 5 goalless games in his first season.

Like I said, our mids didn't honour his leads. In fact our mids rarely honour the leads of anyone except Pavlich and Ballantyne. We are very predictable on that front. No coincidence we have one of the worst i50-score conversion rates of any top 8 team.

Fremantle aren't GWS you moron.

 

[Schauermann]

Fremantle aren't GWS you moron.

You really need to tell that our players...

 

[pokerspiv]

Fremantle aren't GWS you moron.

Ok then, Chris Mayne has had 6 goalless games this season. 7 counting this one. He plays for Fremantle.

 

[clogged]

Ok then, Chris Mayne has had 6 goalless games this season. 7 counting this one. He plays for Fremantle.

Chris Mayne is not a key forward.

 

[mike91]

Jeremy Cameron had 5 goalless games in his first season.

Like I said, our mids didn't honour his leads. In fact our mids rarely honour the leads of anyone except Pavlich and Ballantyne. We are very predictable on that front. No coincidence we have one of the worst i50-score conversion rates of any top 8 team.

.......my god

 

[pokerspiv]

Chris Mayne is not a key forward.

He plays Centre Half Forward for the Fremantle Dockers.

 

[UFO Tatsu]

Let's say Pav was to get injured in the last few rounds of the season, how would you reshuffle the forward line to make it competitive for matches against the top few sides. Let's assume that Walters and Ballantyne are both fit and available.

see what you have done !!! time to move state !!!

 

[mike91]

arrow_dactyl if I were you I'd hop in the car and leave town.

 

[arrow_dactyl]

arrow_dactyl if I were you I'd hop in the car and leave town.

It's all ok if he doesn't miss a week, right guys????

I'm in a secure location, don't try find me.

 

[willoblue]

audition time at Peel this weekend
Keps vs Tabs vs Ape

 

[clivenator26]

Isn't Keps injured?

Don't discount Gumby, going down to Geelong I'd rather have him then a kid. Hopefully he bags a few this weekend.