Rumour The Possible Trades Thread (Merged Threads)

[Bazzar]

Nathan Brown just did the Tiger assessment on the footy show and had Thursty and Tambling as our best trade baits.

 

[Rustof]

Ash Smith (WCE)

I think he recently signed a new contract with WCE.

 

[Spudregus_87]

Fair call We all have our preferences. I have two, and i know i will be canned big time for them, they are either Roughie first, or Hawkins second. Both quality big buggers who would benefit with a change of scenery and Jack next to them

I reckon Roughy would be a perfect fit (if he gets his kicking sorted), but he signed on for an extra four years at Hawthorn this year, so any chance of nabbing him would be pretty slim you'd think. Then again, I think we've seen this year, that contracts aren't worth the paper their written on with the Kighta situation.

Hawkins is an interesting one. Not sure on his contract status, (google's failed me!!) but surely the only way the Cats would let him go would be if we were to put pick #6 & Thursfield/Rance/McGuane on the table (Scarlett/Dasher replacement). Similar to Post, I reckon his mentalitly during games is an issue. Just needs to find a way to become more aggressive at the contest and dominate marking contests like he did in the TAC Championships a few years ago. At 22 years old, I agree with you that he would compliment Jumpin Jack beautifully.

Nathan Brown just did the Tiger assessment on the footy show and had Thursty and Tambling as our best trade baits.

As much as I love Thursty, I fear putting him on the trade table might be our best option .

McGuane and Rance are originally from QLD & WA respectively, so you wouldn't think that would help our push for Knights. Of the three, I think Thursty would be the one that other clubs owuld be most interested in.

 

[TheProwler]

You gotta laugh at most of the ideas thrown around in this thread

The next we will hear is someone wanting to pick up that promising forward from Port........ Jay somebody..................Shultz yeah thats him


All these mid 20 year old stars just wishing to leave there clubs to come play for the side that finished 15th the last two years whilst GC & WS have open check books.

I am still waiting for someone to tell me who was the last successful player we trade for, well in the last two decades at-least

 

[Spudregus_87]

You gotta laugh at most of the ideas thrown around in this thread

The next we will hear is someone wanting to pick up that promising forward from Port........ Jay somebody..................Shultz yeah thats him

All these mid 20 year old stars just wishing to leave there clubs to come play for the side that finished 15th the last two years whilst GC & WS have open check books.

Yeah fair call, Roughy & Hawkins are one in a million shots, but that's the sort of player we want to add to our list.

I am still waiting for someone to tell me who was the last successful player we trade for, well in the last two decades at-least

Agree, there have been some shockers (Paul Hudson, Mark Graham ), but I'd probably put down these four as players I could mark down as 'above average' who have come from other clubs:

Nathan Brown - Great player, but never the same after he snapped his leg against the Demons;

Greg Stafford - Not the best ruckman, and probably played his best years with the Swans, but I remember him being serviceable for us;

Troy Simmonds - Never really kicked on the way we all wanted him to, but probably gave us one 'above average' year.

Sugar - Lead the club during some of our darkest years, so he gets points from me for that, but really, a slow dual premiership player.

Can't remember if we actually had to give up much for these four though?

 

[bigstyletiger]

Incredible crap being thrown around this thread. Q Lynch, Roughead and Hawkins. That is all crazy talk to say the least.

Lynch - is too old to justify taking the place of a younger guy like Griff/Post/Astbury

Roughead - would cost more than we could afford and that's without getting into the debate of would he even be worth it. Has looked like a shell of a footballer at times this year.

Hawkins - similar story to Roughead in terms of cost. Hasn't found a position yet and in comparison to JR he is a dud. Playing for the best team and he can't even hold down a key forward spot as well as JR can in the 15th side or even as well as Nathan Ablett did at the Cats.

Don't think it's unreasonable to think that extra support for Jack will come from one of or a combination of Griffits, Post, Astbury, Taylor, Westhoff and if we really do need another key forward then Tom Lynch/Jack Darling/Lucas Cook will be in the draft.

 

[Azzleberry]

You gotta laugh at most of the ideas thrown around in this thread

The next we will hear is someone wanting to pick up that promising forward from Port........ Jay somebody..................Shultz yeah thats him


All these mid 20 year old stars just wishing to leave there clubs to come play for the side that finished 15th the last two years whilst GC & WS have open check books.

I am still waiting for someone to tell me who was the last successful player we trade for, well in the last two decades at-least

Mitch Morton??

 

[Bazzar]

Mitch Morton??

Add Farmer and Nason for Shulz, that is looking very promising. Also Broders B&F winner, Gale and Cameron were more than handy. Chris Bond came over from the tankers and won a B&f. Gas down from the Swans was a big win, All Australian and winner of a B&F. Even Greg Dear on his last legs was more than hand at the time.

 

[TheProwler]

Morton 23, after 3 years at our club and only managed 12 games this year (with a few stinkers in those too), in a team that finished second last is hardly a great endorsement of his ability and trade worth. Next year and beyond, well who knows which is the same reason we must seriously consider more gambles with players who in 3 or 4 years time might not be able to keep up with this years draftees in the new fast running modern game.

Brown, Stafford, Polak, Simmonds, McMahon etc whilst all have been serviceable during there time with us were perhaps no better than some 17 year old we potentially missed out on for their services?

 

[THE_GUN]

Morton 23, after 3 years at our club and only managed 12 games this year (with a few stinkers in those too), in a team that finished second last is hardly a great endorsement of his ability and trade worth. Next year and beyond, well who knows which is the same reason we must seriously consider more gambles with players who in 3 or 4 years time might not be able to keep up with this years draftees in the new fast running modern game.

Brown, Stafford, Polak, Simmonds, McMahon etc whilst all have been serviceable during there time with us were perhaps no better than some 17 year old we potentially missed out on for their services?

have you been out of the country the last few months !!

Mitch Morton went to hardwick & said he wants to play a more productive role & wants to play in the midfield & both he and dimma agreed for him to go back to coburg to learn how dimma wants him to play in the midfield.

comes back & has been a gun player for us in the engine room racking up 25+ possesions every game.

please get your facts correct before bagging players , i wish we had 2 more mitch mortons in our team could end up being our stevie johnsonmchapman type player that revolves between foward & midfield

 

[TheProwler]

have you been out of the country the last few months !!

Mitch Morton went to hardwick & said he wants to play a more productive role & wants to play in the midfield & both he and dimma agreed for him to go back to coburg to learn how dimma wants him to play in the midfield.

comes back & has been a gun player for us in the engine room racking up 25+ possesions every game.

please get your facts correct before bagging players , i wish we had 2 more mitch mortons in our team could end up being our stevie johnsonmchapman type player that revolves between foward & midfield

Not bagging him bloke just pointing out the obvious. Yes he may have had a good last half a dozen games but you would expect that from a bloke who has been in the AFL for five years. I would want to see him produce this for more than half a dozen games before rating him a success. I don't see him as a permanent mid, at-least not in the long term. We have a plethora of mids ahead of him on our list.

Point is Morton was relatively cheap for a pick in the late thirties/early forties from memory. We won't get any of the players in the poll for that and they are all about the same age. We would have to part with our first pick most likley for Knights plus a player (perhaps even Morton?). Would you think that be a good trade? I doubt it.

 

[THE_GUN]

Not bagging him bloke just pointing out the obvious. Yes he may have had a good last half a dozen games but you would expect that from a bloke who has been in the AFL for five years. I would want to see him produce this for more than half a dozen games before rating him a success. I don't see him as a permanent mid, at-least not in the long term. We have a plethora of mids ahead of him on our list.

Point is Morton was relatively cheap for a pick in the late thirties/early forties from memory. We won't get any of the players in the poll for that and they are all about the same age. We would have to part with our first pick most likley for Knights plus a player (perhaps even Morton?). Would you think that be a good trade? I doubt it.

i wouldnt even straight swap morton for knights.
morton is our big bodied mid/fwd that plays every game

knights is injury prone thats had 1 good year

NO WAY

 

[TheProwler]

i wouldnt even straight swap morton for knights.
morton is our big bodied mid/fwd that plays every game

knights is injury prone thats had 1 good year

NO WAY

You are an ovious fan of Mitch which is good but you now see just how fancifull it is to trade away players & or picks for a "star" from another club.

There is no need, keep on track and keep bringing in youth

 

[Bazzar]

YThere is no need, keep on track and keep bringing in youth

So you want Hardwick and Cameron to abandon their rebuilding plans and just stick to youth

 

[TheProwler]

So you want Hardwick and Cameron to abandon their rebuilding plans and just stick to youth

Isn't that what they are already doing? Have you not noticed the number of kids drafted last year? Nason was the oldest at 21, the rest were 17-19 year olds.

I would sooner Nason at pick 71 than trade out pick 6 and a player for a player like Knights or similar.

Relton Roberts was recruited as a mature rookie in the rookie draft which is always a gamble. I would be happy for Hardwick to recruit Knights, Rischitelli or similar in the rookie draft.

 

[Bazzar]

Isn't that what they are already doing? Have you not noticed the number of kids drafted last year? Nason was the oldest at 21, the rest were 17-19 year olds.

I would sooner Nason at pick 71 than trade out pick 6 and a player for a player like Knights or similar.

Relton Roberts was recruited as a mature rookie in the rookie draft which is always a gamble. I would be happy for Hardwick to recruit Knights, Rischitelli or similar in the rookie draft.

Fair enough, but that was last year and Benny Gale said in his 3-0-75 speech that this draft they will be going hard at quality mature trades. But obviously they will still be drafting recruits.

 

[Filthy Sanchez]

If the Tambling trouble is true then we should be trying to send him to Adelaide. Tambling's best position is ojn the half back line where Newman, Deledio and Connors have filled positions in Tambling's absence.

Knights on the other hand, would fill a spot that we have a definate hole. Obviously we'd have to throw in a 3rd rounder or a Rance but I'd definately take it.

 

[Toadvine]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-buzz-take-a-pay-cut-fev/story-e6frf9jf-1225914748147

BLUES MAKE TRADE MOVE

WHILE Brisbane is struggling under the weight of Brendan Fevola's salary, the Blues are about to a launch a recruiting campaign with the money they saved by punting him.

Brett Ratten said yesterday the club would be ''active'' in trying to recruit, revealing a tall back was the key priority.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-buzz-take-a-pay-cut-fev/story-e6frf9jf-1225914748147

Opportunity here. Who would you be willing to give up and for what?

 

[ize_]

On the whole Knights thing - Hardwick and Morton decided that Morton should become a midfielder. Morton wanted to become a more influential player and Hardwick saw Morton's role, as a mid sized half forward, as irrelevant in the modern game. It's worked a treat so far. Why would we then turn around and recruit a mid sized half forward in the very next trade week? Dimma may want him because he thinks he can turn him into a midfielder, but then why bother? Why not just chase a younger mid, if anyone at all? I know some people will say Morton and Knights played different forward roles but I believe the difference is negligible and that anything Knights can do, Morton can do better. People are going gaga over him because he's available, but realistically we're not going to get him and we're not even going to try.

On the Carlton thing, while it fits that we have a plethora of decent KPDs, I just couldn't handle seeing Thursty, McGuane or any Richmond player for that matter in a Carlton guernsey. Would burn the soul.

 

[Calcium Man]

Opportunity here. Who would you be willing to give up and for what?

Would give up Thursty for sure. Hopefully for their 1st pick which would be pick 20 or 22 I'm not sure. And if could bundle McGuane off to GC for a similar pick then we could nab two of a smith, Parker, caddy ect. To compliment pick 6. We need to get as many picks in the first 30 for Francis and his men to do their best work with.

 

[sante]

Everyone says Thursfield/Moore/McGuane aren't tall for KP, yet when the Blues announce they are after a tall back, we throw their names up?

 

[Calcium Man]

Everyone says Thursfield/Moore/McGuane aren't tall for KP, yet when the Blues announce they are after a tall back, we throw their names up?

Wouldn't say everyone. A couple of cm isn't much in the grand scheme of things.

Personally I think they are all solid KPD but not great rebounders. If we can get those picks around the 20 mark we should move them on and have some faith in grimes, goo, Astbury, post and Rance.

 

[astro_toby]

Don't know if i would be in a hurry to trade any of McGuane, Thursty or Moore. In saying that, Post, Astbury & Rance are still in the wings to be back ups.

If we did to the blues ( as they seem to be looking for a taller backman ), i would only really be looking at Hampson.

The bloke would be a great option for us in the ruck - the right age, good tap work and can take a mark down forward when resting. He and Graham could be a good combination for us for the 5 - 8 years. A solid young rucka

There has been strong word that he could already be a GCS recruit, but if not - he would almost definitely be looking at a move to further his career after missing a call up for the final - missing out to Jacobs. With Warnock & Kruezer also on the list - the blues could also consider him surplus.

Which of those backman do we get rid of though? all of them have shown near even capability's - with all of them having slightly varied strengths and weakness's - guess it comes down to if any of them WANT to move

 

[Mr Magic]

Forget trading for existing players to the club please . We should be trading draft picks..

I have said in the past we should be targeting a premiership in about 6 years as this is the beginning of our window IMO based on current list assessment and draft forecasts etc...

The reason for my latest request, happy to cop the flak, as I know I am a Neville, but have a deep need for Tiger glory, is the following from the AFL website

GC concessions
2011 - 48 senior list, nine rookies with $1m TPP extra allowance;
2012 - 46 senior list, nine rookies with $800k TPP extra allowance;
2013 - 42 senior list, nine rookies with $600k TPP extra allowance;
2014 - 40 senior list, nine rookies with $400k TPP extra allowance;
2015 - 38 senior list, nine rookies in line with other AFL clubs.

The bottom line is if we can maximise our draft picks in the next 3-4 years so we begin to rise we can take advantage of getting some GC stars that will need to go like an Essendon due to salary cap restrictions.

As some have said GC's talent will be tremedous. It can continue next year as well as I can't see them making the 8 in 2011.

Given the quality of some of their picks , 12 * 17 year olds. plus the 2010 draft picks and 8 players like Krakeour, maybe be Ablett. they won't be able to hold them particularly as GWS will becoming a force.

It is in our interest to be as a attractive as anything for existing players to come to our club in 4-5 years.

In this vein, and to get our best chance for a premiership, we need to get raft picks now and plenty of them!!

 

[bigstyletiger]

Heard today from a member of the extended family that Bachar is being interviewed by the Tigers. Not sure he's a player I would be after but that's the info I had so I thought i'd share it.