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Not sure if anyone's mentioned it already (can't really be arsed to check) but if you get a chance you should contrast the perceived trade value of Mitchy thrown up by Lions supporters on this thread with some of the comments made in the "Roster Watch - Mitch Clark" thread on their board. Some real vitriol there, and not all linked to his decision to leave.
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And how exactly has your club done that, given that they have made NO OFFER for him?
No, and that's fine, but you've made NO OFFER.
Why? They are. Making NO OFFER for a bloke you're chasing is poor practice. If GWS nab him in the PSD, we get compensated, and you'd not get the player you actively chased, but for some bizarre reason made NO OFFER for.
I agree re trading firmly, etc... but this is beyond that. Not sure if you got it, but guys your club has made NO OFFER for him. That is NOT being firm, that's poor business practice.
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Do you have a source that confirms we have made no offer? Last I heard that was true before Clark committed to coming to Freo (ie when Melbourne weighed in), but after that the latest from Brisbane was that we hadn't offered 16 and 20. That BLFC tweet from yesterday afternoon did not say we have made NO OFFER, just that we hadn't offered 16 AND 20.
Reading between the lines, it's possible (probable) that we have offered one of those picks and Brisbane aren't prepared to accept that offer.
I don't know, but personally, based on your comments, I'd like to see a source that confirms we have made no offer at all as yet.
Reading between the lines, it's possible (probable) that we have offered one of those picks and Brisbane aren't prepared to accept that offer.
I don't know, but personally, based on your comments, I'd like to see a source that confirms we have made no offer at all as yet.
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Do you have any source for this?
There have been all kinds of weird rumours this week but I'd have a bit of doubt about this one. What I would expect is Brisbane are pushing for too much and Freo are offering too little. I can't credit any situation where Freo have made no offer after 5 days.
You would think if they were offering nothing, they would have said Not Interested and walked away by now.
If we have made NO OFFER (according to you) why are you on our board whining on and on about it?
Are we realy chasing him? We were interested in Clark last year when Sandi was our only real ruck option, and Harvey was the one making noise he wanted Clark. The way i see it, we would "like" Clark, but only on the cheap or free. otherwise we just go to the draft with two 1st round picks. We don't realy lose here unless we give you both picks.
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It is, of course, entirely possible that two different Brisbane fans may have different views of Clark's value.
Personally, I think he's a lazy waste of space, but I suspect he may not have been giving his all in the second half of the season. He may well have had his mind in Fremantle for some time.
It would seem that Freo and Clark's management are in constant communication. I reckon Clark told them some time ago that he would veto any trade deal that wasn't to the Dockers. No wonder Bond is playing it cool. It's easy to call your poker opponent's bluff when you've got a mate reading his cards over his shoulder.
Fremantle are totally entitled to try and leverage their position of strength to get the best possible deal for the club. But I do think it starts to get a little dodgy when Clark is drawing a salary from the Brisbane football club, while seemingly doing everything he can to undermine their interests.
You forced that situation by asking a ridiculous price for him. Schwab is an idiot, he would have given anything you asked for. He is a lot of the reason why Freo spent years paying overs for players who never wanted to be at the club in the first place. If Adelade want pick 8 and 12 for Tippett, then tell them to get stuffed and try again next year when Tippett is out of contract.
When Tarrant left us last year there was no sympathy for Freo, AFL is just like any other business, politics, and life, brutal.
Mellington will be in the forward line next year, no question.Balla will be rotated to keep him fresh, he is very good in bursts.
Will be interesting to see if Walters is in our plans, or will be discarded.
Mellington will be in the forward line next year, no question.Balla will be rotated to keep him fresh, he is very good in bursts.
Will be interesting to see if Walters is in our plans, or will be discarded.
Last word on Walters is that he was offered a contract with Freo and they thought he might sign sometime during trade week. Things do change quickly though.
It hasn't hurt Carlton, Collingwood or Port Adelaide in trades with other clubs and just because your club has reported that nothing has been offered doesn't make it so. Even Colin Young has been quoted as saying both clubs have been very quiet about the trade and not really kept him or Mitch in the loop.
It's a stand off...but at this moment in time the best you can hope for I think is a first round pick or risk him going to the PSD...and if you think GWS will pick him up after Mitch making his "statement" yesterday you're deluded.
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I think they will offer pick 20 and maybe a 2nd or 3rd round pick. We need pick 16 to try and lure Goddard to Freo, that's the rumour anyway, pick 16 and two players for Goddard, it's probably a load of crap but jeez we can dream can't we?
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/sport/10469036/clark-determined-to-seal-freo-deal/
"The Lions denied reports Fremantle had offered them national draft picks No.16 and No.20, but did say they had been offered the No.16 choice."
Just to clarify things.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/sport/10469036/clark-determined-to-seal-freo-deal/
"The Lions denied reports Fremantle had offered them national draft picks No.16 and No.20, but did say they had been offered the No.16 choice."
Just to clarify things.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/sport/10469036/clark-determined-to-seal-freo-deal/
I don't think that would get Goddard even if the rumours are true. Reckon Saints would be looking for two top 10 picks. Established players are no use to them with the salary cap issues they are facing.
Don't really see how we can do better than that unless we offer 16+20 plus Griffin for Clark and their first rounder(pick 8).
Give em 16 and a player.
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Yoo hoo.... Duritz, are you there????
Duritz??
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Nah.... didn't think so.
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The wedge politics comment was about you taking the extreme point of any debate and then trying to make yourself look like the bastion of truth.
Even though the vast majority of posters who want Clark favour using only 1 of the 2 first rounders (or less) .....you by very selective comment paint everyone who does not agree with you as wanting to pay 16 or 20.
It is wedge politics find an extreme view and use it to divide.
Again yep I said 80 or 90 (what a shock you take the upper limit of the post).
Pav as a stay at home forward has previously kicked 60-70 goals, if he plays the entire season as a stay at home forward - what are we looking at? 50 goals....40 goals?
Clark kicked 27 last year in what was basically his first full year as a forward.
Subi will suit him, he basically kicked a goal in every game he played, he will be a year older (in his case a good thing).
Pav kicks 50, Clark kicks 30 ...or are you expecting Pav's output as a forward to drop?
if Pav/Clark play 22 games, the major threat will be game plan.
Have you actually expressed an opinion Clay, you appear well placed to be right regardless of whether he plays well or poorly or not at all.
Even though the vast majority of posters who want Clark favour using only 1 of the 2 first rounders (or less) .....you by very selective comment paint everyone who does not agree with you as wanting to pay 16 or 20.
It is wedge politics find an extreme view and use it to divide.
Again yep I said 80 or 90 (what a shock you take the upper limit of the post).
Pav as a stay at home forward has previously kicked 60-70 goals, if he plays the entire season as a stay at home forward - what are we looking at? 50 goals....40 goals?
Clark kicked 27 last year in what was basically his first full year as a forward.
Subi will suit him, he basically kicked a goal in every game he played, he will be a year older (in his case a good thing).
Pav kicks 50, Clark kicks 30 ...or are you expecting Pav's output as a forward to drop?
if Pav/Clark play 22 games, the major threat will be game plan.
Have you actually expressed an opinion Clay, you appear well placed to be right regardless of whether he plays well or poorly or not at all.
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I would suggest that Clark and his management had been working towards this since well before Brisbane and Fremantle had even discussed a trade.
I'm not sure what this 'ridiculous price' is that we'd asked. We'd have been perfectly within our rights to simply refuse to trade him.
In case anyone cares, I just flat out don't believe that Freo have offered pick 16 at this point. I reckon that AAP article is wrong. Notice the lack of a source.
Anyway, Rob Kerr is on the record as saying that he doesn't believe pick 16 is enough, so I suppose its academic.
Frankly, I'm not sure Clark is worth any more, but if Melbourne are prepared to pay him $500-$600k a year obviously he is for somebody. I expect the Dockers are willing to pay him pretty generously, as well.
If they don't want 16 then they can go and get screwed.
I would gladly hold onto pick 16 + 20 and if we managed to pick Clark up in the PSD, Brisbane will once again have screwed themselves over at the Trade Table
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Has there been any offer of an apology?
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Yoo hoo.... Duritz, are you there????
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Nah.... didn't think so.
Should have gotten his facts straight. Then he wouldn't of made himself look like a fool.
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