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Footscray isn't that bad of an area, and is at least diverse. Rowville is full of white people and inane suburbia. The outer suburbs of Melbourne are the most glum places I've seen – even Perth's middle class 'burbs are somehow more inspiring.
 
Footscray isn't that bad of an area, and is at least diverse. Rowville is full of white people and inane suburbia. The outer suburbs of Melbourne are the most glum places I've seen – even Perth's middle class 'burbs are somehow more inspiring.


Oh right, I thought you meant safety wise walking around Rowville.
Rowville isn't exactly a tourist destination. But, where you live doesn't have to be. From Rowville I am central to lots of areas, shopping centres etc. and it's not difficult to get to the city from here. It's not as if you need to stay in the suburb you live in and have fun there.
 

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Oh right, I thought you meant safety wise walking around Rowville.
Rowville isn't exactly a tourist destination. But, where you live doesn't have to be. From Rowville I am central to lots of areas, shopping centres etc. and it's not difficult to get to the city from here. It's not as if you need to stay in the suburb you live in and have fun there.

You live pretty close to me Jimmy. I am in Knox.

Might have to meet you at the dirty stammo for a beer one night and watch your awkward flirting stories first hand.
 
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Footscray isn't that bad of an area, and is at least diverse. Rowville is full of white people and inane suburbia. The outer suburbs of Melbourne are the most glum places I've seen – even Perth's middle class 'burbs are somehow more inspiring.
Question, seeing as you are such a champion of modernity and diversity, when traveling through these "diverse" areas, do you actually interact with all the people in these communities?

Or do you do what a lot of hipsters do and quickly find the local noodle bar before slinking back to their all-white, inner-city hipster hovels all high and mighty about how "tolerant" their day was?
 
Question, seeing as you are such a champion of modernity and diversity, when traveling through these "diverse" areas, do you actually interact with all the people in these communities?

Or do you do what a lot of hipsters do and quickly find the local noodle bar before slinking back to their all-white, inner-city hipster hovels all high and mighty about how "tolerant" their day was?

I'd imagine whatever you do is much cooler or whatever.
 
I'd imagine whatever you do is much cooler or whatever.
You mean not acting so desperate to exhibit to the world my socially progressive/feminist/ultra-uber-chic sensibilities by making grand statements about how inclusive I am? In other words, not being so hypocritically snobbish and pretentious while actually living a very convenient and pampered life in an inner-suburban, all-white, "the cafe across the street makes the best chai latte" type location?

Yep, anything I do without that attitude is automatically 1000x more awesome, I quite agree.
 
Will be in Melbourne for the weekend.

I have two questions.
Will it be possible to watch the full Sunday match at the MCG and then walk to Etihad in time for Essendon v Port Adelaide?

and are there any decent kebab shops in the city?
 
Will be in Melbourne for the weekend.

I have two questions.
Will it be possible to watch the full Sunday match at the MCG and then walk to Etihad in time for Essendon v Port Adelaide?

and are there any decent kebab shops in the city?
Its only two stops between the G and ES (Richmond-Flinders St-Southern Cross).

I'd probably allow maybe 20 minutes between the two.

Walking? No way.
 
Will be in Melbourne for the weekend.

I have two questions.
Will it be possible to watch the full Sunday match at the MCG and then walk to Etihad in time for Essendon v Port Adelaide?

and are there any decent kebab shops in the city?

Like the STG said train it. Jolimont - Southern Cross (you might have to change trains at Flinders). 1.10pm game will finish around 3.45pm, other game starts at 4.40pm, so you will walk in right on time, if not early if you train it.

Have fun.
 

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Its only two stops between the G and ES (Richmond-Flinders St-Southern Cross).

I'd probably allow maybe 20 minutes between the two.

Walking? No way.

It's ~40 minutes walking distance - less if you're brisk - easily doable.
 
You mean not acting so desperate to exhibit to the world my socially progressive/feminist/ultra-uber-chic sensibilities by making grand statements about how inclusive I am? In other words, not being so hypocritically snobbish and pretentious while actually living a very convenient and pampered life in an inner-suburban, all-white, "the cafe across the street makes the best chai latte" type location?

Yep, anything I do without that attitude is automatically 1000x more awesome, I quite agree.

It'a always the lattes.
 
Will be in Melbourne for the weekend.

I have two questions.
Will it be possible to watch the full Sunday match at the MCG and then walk to Etihad in time for Essendon v Port Adelaide?

and are there any decent kebab shops in the city?

Get a taxi.

Plenty, The 2 best in the CBD is one on King st and one in Flinders Lane next to the cop shop.
 
Question, seeing as you are such a champion of modernity and diversity, when traveling through these "diverse" areas, do you actually interact with all the people in these communities?

Or do you do what a lot of hipsters do and quickly find the local noodle bar before slinking back to their all-white, inner-city hipster hovels all high and mighty about how "tolerant" their day was?

I'm just saying Footscray is more interesting than the single-demographic that a place like Rowville attracts. I think the location is better, there's more at your disposal, the streetscapes are better.

I'm seriously not a hipster but somehow berating the shitness of outer suburbs is somehow a smug attribute? I'm sorry, but the outer suburbs are shit for a reason. The mum, dad, and two kids on $70,000 a year each would swap Donvale for a comfortable, three bedroom terrace in Carlton or Fitzroy if they could afford it.
 

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I'm just saying Footscray is more interesting than the single-demographic that a place like Rowville attracts. I think the location is better, there's more at your disposal, the streetscapes are better.

I'm seriously not a hipster but somehow berating the shitness of outer suburbs is somehow a smug attribute? I'm sorry, but the outer suburbs are shit for a reason. The mum, dad, and two kids on $70,000 a year each would swap Donvale for a comfortable, three bedroom terrace in Carlton or Fitzroy if they could afford it.



Haven't you lived in Melbourne for 2 years or something?
 
Haven't you lived in Melbourne for 2 years or something?

A lot less. You can still gauge if you like a suburb or not. Would you enjoy Melton or Broadmeadows more if you've lived there longer? They're still shitholes.

The only people who defend boring suburbs are people who live there.
 
Will be in Melbourne for the weekend.

I have two questions.
Will it be possible to watch the full Sunday match at the MCG and then walk to Etihad in time for Essendon v Port Adelaide?

and are there any decent kebab shops in the city?



Leave the G about 15mins early and get on the tram that goes in between the Southern stand and tennis centre near where the train lines are. That should go all the way down Flinders st past the aquarium and get off at Spencer St. There is a Nandos and a pizza shop on the left, across the street there is a little kebab shop named City kebabs i think, decent enough, they toast the pitas quite a bit so it goes crispy, not everyone likes them like that. Then just walk across to the stadium, they wont let you in with packaged food though.
 
I'm sorry, but the outer suburbs are shit for a reason. The mum, dad, and two kids on $70,000 a year each would swap Donvale for a comfortable, three bedroom terrace in Carlton or Fitzroy if they could afford it.


Everybody has different tastes, I seriously doubt a family with 2 kids would give up their back yard to live in the city.
 
Ah yes, The Waiters Restaurant. A Melbourne institution. Hard to find but worth the effort. It has been there forever. It was once known as The Italian Waiters' Club. It used to sell sly grog and food to the staff of other restaurants who used to go there after their own restaurants closed up. Back in the 60s, it used to serve peasant Italian food, cooked by a real Italian momma. She was hardly a peasant though. A very canny businesswoman.

The story goes that the reason it was able to get away with serving grog illegally was that a) They served the wine in coffee cups. b) If by some chance the coppers did turn up, the patrons would secrete their cups of wine behind the curtains covering the walls. c) There was a tradition established in the 1940s that cops were never to interfere with the running of the business. This was because the former Commissioner of Police, Sir Thomas Blamey, was a frequent patron. (Until the 70s, restaurants in Melbourne were not allowed to serve alcoholic beverages after 6 PM.)

In the early 70s, I took my current squeeze there for dinner. She had never been there. As she looked up the stairs from the laneway, she said to me, "You're taking me to a brothel."
 
Rowville is not a suburb, it's a state, of mind. Some time ago, housing estates in this area were known as 'dormitory suburbs'. People went there to sleep. Alternatively, it could now easily be said that people don't go there to live, they go there to wait to die. The residents of such places are the ones responsible for the governments we've had in Australia. And they see no shame in this. Rowville represents so much of what is dispiriting about Australia - relatively intelligent people who have semi-consciously chosen to become vegetables.
 

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