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[Adelaide Hawk]

I just can't see a guy with as much integrity as Clarko breaking a contract to go to Adelaide

Why are we even discussing this?

 

[Flag08]

Can someone please explain the Mitch Clark situation to me??

4 months ago he suffered from such a debilitating mental illness that he had to retire. Now he's recovered sufficiently to continue playing but only at another club. Not to belittle a serious illness but wtf. I get that playing for, even barracking for, the Dees must be depressing but seriously, he is taking the piss isn't he? Does it give him PTSD to walk back into Melbourne's rooms? A cynical person could think its a very ordinary way to leave a club.

 

[Off The Couch]

Why are we even discussing this?

While I realise you profess to never reading anything in the media, it is as it stands at the moment in the news, so that means open for discussion
You of course don't have to contribute and can say "told you so" later on

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

Can someone please explain the Mitch Clark situation to me??

4 months ago he suffered from such a debilitating mental illness that he had to retire. Now he's recovered sufficiently to continue playing but only at another club. Not to belittle a serious illness but wtf. I get that playing for, even barracking for, the Dees must be depressing but seriously, he is taking the piss isn't he? Does it give him PTSD to walk back into Melbourne's rooms? A cynical person could think its a very ordinary way to leave a club.

I tend to agree. I can understand that he had to step aside due to illness but if he is well enough to play again I can't accept that he can't resume his career at Melbourne. If he wants to go to another club fair enough, but I can't see using his previous illness as an argument for that.

 

[Pessimistic]

You'll never get that. The Hawks have always been under-rated by the media, no matter how many premierships we win.

1976 & 1978 - Media said North Melbourne have too many starts for Hawthorn to handle. They were wrong.
1983 - Essendon on the rampage after thrashing North Melbourne in the PF, should deal with the Hawks - they were wrong
1986 - Carlton will be too good for Hawthorn - they were wrong
1988 - Melbourne to exact revenge for the 1987 PF loss - they were wrong
1989 - Geelong on the warpath after a successful finals campaign, they will beat Hawthorn - they were wrong
1991 - West Coast have been the best team over the season and should win - they were wrong
2008 - Nobody will beat Geelong, especially not Hawthorn - they were wrong
2013 - The purple haze is unbeatable. - they were wrong

I'm feeling good about this weekend, the media have all but written us off, as usual.

Watching the 76 and 78 replays, clearly the roos were the sentimental favourites but during the game, louie and co commetating gave hawthorn their due. Not today with the pack of lightweights openly sooking when the games not going how they predicted

Ps the squiggle shows 2008 was something special

 

[Pessimistic]

Dane swan is not a bet welcher

 

[Brishawk]

Can someone please explain the Mitch Clark situation to me??

4 months ago he suffered from such a debilitating mental illness that he had to retire. Now he's recovered sufficiently to continue playing but only at another club. Not to belittle a serious illness but wtf. I get that playing for, even barracking for, the Dees must be depressing but seriously, he is taking the piss isn't he? Does it give him PTSD to walk back into Melbourne's rooms? A cynical person could think its a very ordinary way to leave a club.

Why would anyone want to go back to a work place that contributed to their depression?

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Watching the 76 and 78 replays, clearly the roos were the sentimental favourites but during the game, louie and co commetating gave hawthorn their due. Not today with the pack of lightweights openly sooking when the games not going how they predicted

In interviews years later, Ron Barassi was still lamenting losses in those GFs saying North were clearly the better team. I've never heard anyone saying "Bullshit Ron, you're just a bad loser". In those 2 seasons, the Hawks and North met 8 times with Hawthorn winning 7 of them including all 4 finals, and yet Barassi still thinks North were the better team. He's an idiot. If North were the better team, then obviously it must be the coach's fault.

A lot of people got fooled by the fact North recruited from all over Australia and had a lot of big names in the team, as well as high profile administrators and benefactors. Hawthorn were an unfashionable team in unfashionable colours existing in our sleepy hollow at Glenferrie. The 1976 premiership team had only 1 interstate player, Rodney Eade, and he was recruited as a lad. Most of the people in the media now were around back then, and they still under-rate the Hawks. To them, we are still that unfashionable team from Glenferrie.

I want to win this game badly to stick it right up Warren boofhead Tredrea who wrote in the Advertiser the other day that the Hawks simply don't have the class to match it with Sydney. Obviously a comment made from a disgruntled Power man after we'd just ousted them from the finals, but we could do with less of that kind of crap in the media. Too many media people think with their heart, not their brain ... not that Tredrea has one.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

While I realise you profess to never reading anything in the media, it is as it stands at the moment in the news, so that means open for discussion
You of course don't have to contribute and can say "told you so" later on

I can say that now.

 

[Pessimistic]

In interviews years later, Ron Barassi was still lamenting losses in those GFs saying North were clearly the better team. I've never heard anyone saying "Bullshit Ron, you're just a bad loser". In those 2 seasons, the Hawks and North met 8 times with Hawthorn winning 7 of them including all 4 finals, and yet Barassi still thinks North were the better team. He's an idiot. If North were the better team, then obviously it must be the coach's fault.

A lot of people got fooled by the fact North recruited from all over Australia and had a lot of big names in the team, as well as high profile administrators and benefactors. Hawthorn were an unfashionable team in unfashionable colours existing in our sleepy hollow at Glenferrie. The 1976 premiership team had only 1 interstate player, Rodney Eade, and he was recruited as a lad. Most of the people in the media now were around back then, and they still under-rate the Hawks. To them, we are still that unfashionable team from Glenferrie.

I want to win this game badly to stick it right up Warren boofhead Tredrea who wrote in the Advertiser the other day that the Hawks simply don't have the class to match it with Sydney. Obviously a comment made from a disgruntled Power man after we'd just ousted them from the finals, but we could do with less of that kind of crap in the media. Too many media people think with their heart, not their brain ... not that Tredrea has one.

I wasnt around for the barassi years, but he sounds like an earlier version of paul roos

Give barassi his due though, he turned sydney around in a year or so

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

Give barassi his due though, he turned sydney around in a year or so

Don't credit Barrassi for the AFL's work

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

I wasnt around for the barassi years, but he sounds like an earlier version of paul roos

Give barassi his due though, he turned sydney around in a year or so

He took over from Buckenara in 1993, coached them until the end of 1995. In those three seasons they finished 15th, 15th and 12th. Eade took over in 1996 and got them into the GF.

 

[Seagull Supremacy]

On Wednesday afternoon at the Hawks shop at Waverley, I saw a little girl wearing a $wan$ jumper, and bad-mouthing Hawthorn. More blatant example of bad parenting you will never find.

If there is any justice in this world (yeah, right. ), we'll moider these scumbags tomorrow...

 

[Pessimistic]

I wasnt around for the barassi years, but he sounds like an earlier version of paul roos

Give barassi his due though, he turned sydney around in a year or so

Should have said off field

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

On Wednesday afternoon at the Hawks shop at Waverley, I saw a little girl wearing a $wan$ jumper, and bad-mouthing Hawthorn. More blatant example of bad parenting you will never find.

If there is any justice in this world (yeah, right. ), we'll moider these scumbags tomorrow...

I hope you smacked her

 

[cryptor]

I hope you smacked her

Ooh watch out or you'll have that Swans supporter Paperplate back on this board Helen Lovejoy-ing it up...

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

Ooh watch out or you'll have that Swans supporter Paperplate back on this board Helen Lovejoy-ing it up...

Paperplate can go ead

 

[Off The Couch]

Great article on Chris Fagan written by Caro

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-powerbroker-at-hawthorn-20140925-10m4h3.html

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

Great article on Chris Fagan written by Caro

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-powerbroker-at-hawthorn-20140925-10m4h3.html

Carlton are getting the paper bags ready ASAP

 

[cryptor]

Great article on Chris Fagan written by Caro

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-powerbroker-at-hawthorn-20140925-10m4h3.html

Great read. Amazingly he seems to be simultaneously the glue that holds the club together and the oil that allows it to keep operating smoothly and with minimal friction.

Also sounds like if any club were to try and poach Clarko that they'd need to poach Fagan as well. With the new footy department tax coming in as long as we keep these two in contract they will be incredibly hard to be stolen from us.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

Why would anyone want to go back to a work place that contributed to their depression?

Did it though? I thought it was his ongoing injuries that were the cause of his depression, have not heard that it was Melbourne FC that was the cause. Having said that, clinical depression does not necessarily have a cause per se and can affect anyone at anytime even if they appear to have nothing to be depressed about.

 

[Brishawk]

Did it though? I thought it was his ongoing injuries that were the cause of his depression, have not heard that it was Melbourne FC that was the cause. Having said that, clinical depression does not necessarily have a cause per se and can affect anyone at anytime even if they appear to have nothing to be depressed about.

Being back in that environment would not help him. I can tell you he has improved immensely since cutting ties with the club. Not saying the club are at fault here but they aren't in a position to provide him the environment he needs to play footy.

 

[Prudster]

Being back in that environment would not help him. I can tell you he has improved immensely since cutting ties with the club. Not saying the club are at fault here but they aren't in a position to provide him the environment he needs to play footy.

While obviously each club is different, it makes him a massive risk for any other club to pick him up. Who knows whether he will relapse when he is back in a similar environment, or when he cops an inevitable injury. I think most clubs would take him, but i'm guessing at nowhere near the price that Melbourne originally paid for him, which sucks for them given they've done everything right by him.

 

[Bikefreak]

Watching the 76 and 78 replays, clearly the roos were the sentimental favourites but during the game, louie and co commetating gave hawthorn their due. Not today with the pack of lightweights openly sooking when the games not going how they predicted

Ps the squiggle shows 2008 was something special

Cause it seems to be all about them, as opposed to the game that provides their employment.

Like a lot of things now....gets done back the front.

 

[Brishawk]

While obviously each club is different, it makes him a massive risk for any other club to pick him up. Who knows whether he will relapse when he is back in a similar environment, or when he cops an inevitable injury. I think most clubs would take him, but i'm guessing at nowhere near the price that Melbourne originally paid for him, which sucks for them given they've done everything right by him.

Sure but the change of club did bathing Thompson a lot if good. It's not like hawthorn was a bad club just not the right fit. Hay on the other hand...