Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

[KennyP#42]

Hmmm we don't seem to be getting anything back for Leuy and 24 did you mean we get Mitchell?

Lions to get beams - as per the forum topic...
Luenberger would not be ideal as a trade option for the lions (with current rucks stocks) - but we have to be willing to put up something decent to get beams

 

[FreeAgent1]

You were given incorrect info:
Collingwood nominates him, (which will be official on Friday) and then on Monday morning, (before the trade period starts) the other clubs can bid if they wish.
If no-one else bids we take him with our last pick.
If teams below us, (Saints, Melb., GWS, Lions, Dogs, Bluesers, Gold Coast) nominate him we can choose to use our 1st round pick to match it, if we don't we lose him.
If teams above us nominate him we can choose to use our 2nd pick to match, if we don't we lose him.

Bottom line we don't have to nominate a pick unless someone else bids for him.

Carlton will bid on him, guarantee it!!!!

If only to stop what happened with Jack Viney a couple of years ago.

I read the article re: how hard collingwood were thinking about not using pick 1, thought it smelled like propaganda aimed at picks 5-7.

I think it would be interesting if they did risk it, and traded pick 8 back to the lions for pick 4 and Aish. I even think the magpies would swallow that trade, if it meant they got moore anyway...

 

[Anzacday]

Carlton will bid on him, guarantee it!!!!

If only to stop what happened with Jack Viney a couple of years ago.

I read the article re: how hard collingwood were thinking about not using pick 1, thought it smelled like propaganda aimed at picks 5-7.

I think it would be interesting if they did risk it, and traded pick 8 back to the lions for pick 4 and Aish. I even think the magpies would swallow that trade, if it meant they got moore anyway...

Bidding is done before the trade period

 

[FreeAgent1]

Bidding is done before the trade period

I know, its due on monday.

What I was saying is it would be a ballsy move by the pies to try to maximise their draft by selecting 2nd pick for Moore. It was my understanding that the club not only needed to bid for f/s but nominate the pick for which they want to use. i.e. if pies say round 2 shit could get interesting.

 

[Pie in the Sky]

Bidding is done before the trade period

This needs to be stickied somewhere or something, I've seen countless posts that don't get this.

 

[POBT]

I know, its due on monday.

What I was saying is it would be a ballsy move by the pies to try to maximise their draft by selecting 2nd pick for Moore. It was my understanding that the club not only needed to bid for f/s but nominate the pick for which they want to use. i.e. if pies say round 2 shit could get interesting.

No, the club has the opportunity to match any bid by a rival club. Collingwood don't need to nominate a pick for Moore until after the other clubs have bid.

It is effectively a last right of refusal.

 

[dlanod]

This needs to be stickied somewhere or something, I've seen countless posts that don't get this.

It is, in Chris25 's post.

Friday October 3, by 2pm - NAB AFL father/son bidding nominations; Academy bidding nominations lodged with AFL

Monday October 6, 10am - Father/son and Academy players bidding meeting; NAB AFL Trade Period begins

 

[TRUMAN#1]

Hope Brissy gets Beams as a fair a deal as possible.

Its good to see Brissy finally be able to cash in on a very good player who has the "go home factor"

was terrible seeing them lose so many last year.

 

[QAFL_Fan]

Brisbane get: Beams + Collingwood 2nd round pick

Collingwood get: Lions 1st Round Pick + James Aish

As much as I would hate to lose Aish, as good as he is, its less than 50% chance he turns into a player of Beams obvious quality. I would love a midfield next year of Beams, Rockliff, Rich, Redden & Taylor - noice!

 

[Prochard123]

Brisbane get: Beams + Collingwood 2nd round pick

Collingwood get: Lions 1st Round Pick + James Aish

As much as I would hate to lose Aish, as good as he is, its less than 50% chance he turns into a player of Beams obvious quality. I would love a midfield next year of Beams, Rockliff, Rich, Redden & Taylor - noice!

Thats an excelllent deal for us, I believe we need to throw in a little bit more.

 

[QAFL_Fan]

Beams is an A-Grade elite midfielder good for 25-30 goals.

I might be unpopular as a Lions supporter admitting this, but he is worth Pick 4 and a young talented player, or an established A/B Grader like Rockliff, Hanley or Rich + a 2nd round pick.

At the end of the day, it appears to me that Collingwood will just keep him for another year if they don't get the deal done. They hold the cards, he is a contracted player. Hopefully we then get him cheap next year, but who comes out looking like the bad guy is up in the air.

Collingwood for refusing to trade him so he can be close to family, or Brisbane for trying to take advantage of the family situation by refusing to offer what the player is worth?

 

[eaglespremiers]

Beams is an A-Grade elite midfielder good for 25-30 goals.

I might be unpopular as a Lions supporter admitting this, but he is worth Pick 4 and a young talented player, or an established A/B Grader like Rockliff, Hanley or Rich + a 2nd round pick.

At the end of the day, it appears to me that Collingwood will just keep him for another year if they don't get the deal done. They hold the cards, he is a contracted player. Hopefully we then get him cheap next year, but who comes out looking like the bad guy is up in the air.

Collingwood for refusing to trade him so he can be close to family, or Brisbane for trying to take advantage of the family situation by refusing to offer what the player is worth?

This is a refreshing opinion.

 

[Bert Man]

Carlton will bid on him, guarantee it!!!!

If only to stop what happened with Jack Viney a couple of years ago.

I read the article re: how hard collingwood were thinking about not using pick 1, thought it smelled like propaganda aimed at picks 5-7.

I think it would be interesting if they did risk it, and traded pick 8 back to the lions for pick 4 and Aish. I even think the magpies would swallow that trade, if it meant they got moore anyway...

Do you have a source telling you Carlton will nominate him?

 

[afl2552]

IMO Patfull would be perfect fit in Sydney's backline. The fact he is ageing isn't much of a concern, your time for flags is now.

But saying that I really hope he does not leave, as we need him.

It wouldn't make sense for Patfull to come to the swans.

At 190cm hes not a key position player and we already have Rampe, Laidler, Rohan and Johnson even though hes injured.

Dont need 5 players who all play a relatively similar role in the back 6. Patfull at this stage is better than Rohan and Laidler but we are more in need of a KPP back there.

 

[Hollow Knight]

It wouldn't make sense for Patfull to come to the swans.

At 190cm hes not a key position player .

Unbelievable. Has been shutting down quality tall forwards for well over half a decade.

Comparing him to Rohan or Laider really makes it seem like you haven't watched him play. He's nothing like them.

Geez I hope we keep him, felt like his manager was pushing more for a contract extension than a trade.

 

[afl2552]

Unbelievable. Has been shutting down quality tall forwards for well over half a decade.

Can't see him standing a chance against Hawkins, Patton, riewoldt & the like

Was able to do it in his prime but hes 30 years old now.

 

[Eons]

Any talk involving Aish to Collingwood for Beams is ridiculous. Why the hell would he want to go to Collingwood? IF he did want to leave he would be going back to Adelaide.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Can't see him standing a chance against Hawkins, Patton, riewoldt & the like

Was able to do it in his prime but hes 30 years old now.

He has always been excellent on the mobile talls like Pavlich, N. Riewoldt and can take the small forwards as well. He's exceptionally valuable and his individual contests won:lost ratio must be one of the best in the league. Must retain.

 

[Del35196]

Merretts a dud, Patful's a handy 3rd tall....Pies can have both

 

[Ruse]

I think collingwood will play hardball with brisbane and we'll end up giving them pick 4 + Rockliff + Hanleys for beams + 3rd round pick.

 

[QAFL_Fan]

If we did that, then its worse than the Fev trade and I would have to tear up my 13th paddlepop jumper.

 

[Crawb]

If we did that, then its worse than the Fev trade and I would have to tear up my 13th paddlepop jumper.

He's joking.

 

[blueiris]

Brisbane get: Beams + Collingwood 2nd round pick

Collingwood get: Lions 1st Round Pick + James Aish

As much as I would hate to lose Aish, as good as he is, its less than 50% chance he turns into a player of Beams obvious quality. I would love a midfield next year of Beams, Rockliff, Rich, Redden & Taylor - noice!

I'd only trade Aish to Adelaide for Danger

 

[Ron]

I think collingwood will play hardball with brisbane and we'll end up giving them pick 4 + Rockliff + Hanleys for beams + 3rd round pick.

Unless you add Aish to that, then don't even bother bringing that trash to the table.

 

[FuManchu]

Beams is an A-Grade elite midfielder good for 25-30 goals.

I might be unpopular as a Lions supporter admitting this, but he is worth Pick 4 and a young talented player, or an established A/B Grader like Rockliff, Hanley or Rich + a 2nd round pick.

At the end of the day, it appears to me that Collingwood will just keep him for another year if they don't get the deal done. They hold the cards, he is a contracted player. Hopefully we then get him cheap next year, but who comes out looking like the bad guy is up in the air.

Collingwood for refusing to trade him so he can be close to family, or Brisbane for trying to take advantage of the family situation by refusing to offer what the player is worth?

How do you get him cheap next year. If he walks, he goes into the draft. And there will be a few before your mob looking to grab him. He's not restricted until the following year. Even then we can match your offer.

2017 he can be yours unfettered. So in the mean time......