NFL 2015 - Off Season Discussion

[LicoriceAllsorts]

2013 when Minitron broke his ankles. Definitely not covered by Harris.

Dude, he was clearly talking about 2014

 

[ausbacker]

You have turned into a troll

That isn't even a statistic, it's a photo

I'm pretty sure the actual statistics from the season just gone are more relevant

Revis was garbage in 2013

Nah, Revis wasn't garbage in 2013, he was simply misused by Tampa and in a poor schematic fit. FTR, I thought Revis required significant over the top safety help with the Jets than New England. His 2014 performance proved me a fool. I knew he was good I just didn't understand how good a cover corner he is.

If I can find Minitron's footage, just to drive the homerism dagger a little further into you Broncos, I will.

 

[ausbacker]

Dude, he was clearly talking about 2014

Yeah, and although I respect what Harris has overcome (given his knee injury), I don't reference PFF and I don't put Harris in the same class as the best corners in the game. Fairly straightforward stuff. Above average perhaps, elite most certainly not. I'd rather Talib.

 

[Blacky]

Yeah, and although I respect what Harris has overcome (given his knee injury), I don't reference PFF and I don't put Harris in the same class as the best corners in the game. Fairly straightforward stuff. Above average perhaps, elite most certainly not. I'd rather Talib.

It isn't PFF. Get a clue.

It's yards per catch, NO TDs, 47 Passer rating and 250 yards in 400 snaps. How else would you rate these guys? Ausbacker's scale of bullshit?

These aren't BS stats that PFF have made up. Not once have I quoted their rubbish.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Yeah, and although I respect what Harris has overcome (given his knee injury), I don't reference PFF and I don't put Harris in the same class as the best corners in the game. Fairly straightforward stuff. Above average perhaps, elite most certainly not. I'd rather Talib.

You must not have watched either this year. Playing Talib rather than Harris on Hilton is a major reason why we lost to Indianpolis

 

[Blacky]

Apparently the other team calling about Kap are the Bears

Oh boy

 

[GreyWind]

Apparently the other team calling about Kap are the Bears

Oh boy

To be fair, Kap does annihilate our defence something that Cutler has never done.

 

[manureid]

Yo, Reggie, stop spending so much!!

 

[GreyWind]

Yo, Reggie, stop spending so much!!

Don't worry once Carr turns into the good QB I think he will the free agents will flock. Reggie won't be there then though.

 

[sblack]

Lots of guys on twitter saying the Kap rumour is BS, but that guy broke a couple of stories today already, so who knows

 

[Southerntakeover]

Because at this point you seem to be involved in everything

Yeah ok, can't argue with that.

I wouldn't have thought that Kap has the qualities that seem to be needed to run the high speed offense (decision making, accuracy etc).

 

[ausbacker]

It isn't PFF. Get a clue.

It's yards per catch, NO TDs, 47 Passer rating and 250 yards in 400 snaps. How else would you rate these guys? Ausbacker's scale of bullshit?

These aren't BS stats that PFF have made up. Not once have I quoted their rubbish.

You may want to revisit your position Blacky. You're citing numbers from commentary on reddit drawn from commentary citing you guessed it, PFF.

You're better than this. YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS.

You must not have watched either this year. Playing Talib rather than Harris on Hilton is a major reason why we lost to Indianpolis

Kyle Arrington consistently flogs Hilton. Wrong match up playing Talib on Hilton.

 

[sblack]

Just because PFF cite those stats, doesn't meant they own the metrics. Those are used in a variety of advanced stat sites

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

You may want to revisit your position Blacky. You're citing numbers from commentary on reddit drawn from commentary citing you guessed it, PFF.

You're better than this. YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS.


Kyle Arrington consistently flogs Hilton. Wrong match up playing Talib on Hilton.

That's the point, Harris gets the job done on anyone, Talib doesn't

 

[ausbacker]

That's the point, Harris gets the job done on anyone, Talib doesn't

Apart from Edelman, it would seem. You're wildly overrating Harris. Good player, not the best.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Apart from Edelman, it would seem. You're wildly overrating Harris. Good player, not the best. Not even close.

Yes, anyone. He is top a 2 CB in the NFL as I've said all along.

Top 3 if you really wanna believe Talib is better than him

 

[Blacky]

You may want to revisit your position Blacky. You're citing numbers from commentary on reddit drawn from commentary citing you guessed it, PFF.

You're better than this. YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS.


Kyle Arrington consistently flogs Hilton. Wrong match up playing Talib on Hilton.

It isn't signature stats though. Not once have I quoted their grades. These are generic stats, just because they are on a crap website doesn't make them invalid. They quote number of TD's thrown as well. Does that make them invalid?

Please explain how else to quantify?

They graded him a clear cut number 1. Of course that is ridiculous, but he is elite and in consideration as being the top CB.

I love how he gives up no TDs and barely any yards, but that doesn't count because you said so

 

[ausbacker]

Yes, anyone. He is top a 2 CB in the NFL as I've said all along.

Top 3 if you really wanna believe Talib is better than him

Not that it's a definitive measuring stick but Revis and Sherman were the All Pro first team CBs this season. Harris and Grimes were second.

 

[ausbacker]

It isn't signature stats though. Not once have I quoted their grades. These are generic stats, just because they are on a crap website doesn't make them invalid. They quote number of TD's thrown as well. Does that make them invalid?

Please explain how else to quantify?

They graded him a clear cut number 1. Of course that is ridiculous, but he is elite and in consideration as being the top CB.

I love how he gives up no TDs and barely any yards, but that doesn't count because you said so

You fail to understand that I don't respect your source material because of the source. When it comes from reputable organisation, then I will accept it as a truth.

The problem with advanced statistics is they never account for assignment. They see the result and record it accordingly.

 

[sblack]

Arizona signed Weatherspoon to roughly 4m a year

 

[Blacky]

You fail to understand that I don't respect your source material because of the source. When it comes from reputable organisation, then I will accept it as a truth.

The problem with advanced statistics is they never account for assignment. They see the result and record it accordingly.

And yet you offer nothing substantive aside from a picture from 2013.

Bewildering

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Not that it's a definitive measuring stick but Revis and Sherman were the All Pro first team CBs this season. Harris and Grimes were second.

That will look nice on their resume, congrats to them. But popularity won't help them on the football field, other than stopping the QB from throwing to them (if the Offense has no balls that is)

Find numbers that rival Davis and Harris' from this year, that's what matters

 

[ausbacker]

And yet you offer nothing substantive aside from a picture from 2013.

Bewildering

I know footage of Edelman taking Harris to school multiple times exists. If I can find it, I will appropriately link it for your viewing pleasure. If not, I will retract my commentary and offer you a full and unreserved apology.

 

[Zealbee]

Lots of guys on twitter saying the Kap rumour is BS, but that guy broke a couple of stories today already, so who knows

That guy seems to be on the money with a lot of things lately. Will wait and see but at this point I'll believe anything involving the Eagles.

 

[ausbacker]

That will look nice on their resume, congrats to them. But popularity won't help them on the football field, other than stopping the QB from throwing to them (if the Offense has no balls that is)

Find numbers that rival Davis and Harris' from this year, that's what matters

Find and offer me numbers from reputable organisations and I will update my position to mirror your blind homerism.