Past #14: Trent Dumont - delisted end '21 - 113 NM games/26 NM goals - 2019 NM VCapt - thanks Froggy

[koshari]

...and just be glad I cant do gifs on it.

STERN LOOK:

or bluetooth file transfer, or usb storage, or Sd card or ...........

 

[Gasometer]

or bluetooth file transfer, or usb storage, or Sd card or ...........

...contrare contrare....files of funny dog gifs everywhere

 

[coopers pale]

I suggested in another thread, play Froggy in the midfield, releasing Cunners and Ziebs to rotate up forward more, and drop Waite?

Something of a shame he's another slow-paced in-and-under mid, of all the spots on the field we had totally covered, that and ruck are it. That said, you take talent and work-rate where you can get it, and early signs are that he has both of them in spades.

 

[ThePezDispenser]

Can't help but love this kid. Will change avatar and sig shortly!

 

[koshari]

The Torpedo or the Depth Charge?

BTW i think the thread title is wrong, a Depth Charge is an anti sub, where a torpedo sinks ships,

to kill the vest you need a depth charge.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Something of a shame he's another slow-paced in-and-under mid, of all the spots on the field we had totally covered, that and ruck are it. That said, you take talent and work-rate where you can get it, and early signs are that he has both of them in spades.

Wouldn't call Kennedy/Hannebery/Mitchell or Lewis/Mitchell that quick (admittedly Kieren Jack is). The difference is both of those sides have pace on the wings, and good decision markers on the inside to get the ball to them. We have neither.

 

[coopers pale]

Wouldn't call Kennedy/Hannebery/Mitchell or Lewis/Mitchell that quick (admittedly Kieren Jack is). The difference is both of those sides have pace on the wings, and good decision markers on the inside to get the ball to them. We have neither.

Exactly TD, we've got 4-5 variations on the same player on the inside. On the outside (other than Higgo, what a get, just quietly) we're lacking the pace, class and offensively minded wingmen and flankers to compensate.

Almost all our mids are contested-ball hunters, so hunt the contest almost incessantly, rarely spreading into space to create offensive opportunities. Part of it is the lack of leg speed, the other part is mindset, our mids don't seem to have the 'spreading' to space mindset. It just doesn't seem to be in their DNA, it's exacerbated by the lack of polish in their foot-skills. The other mids TD mentioned broadly may or may not be quicker but they do have silkier foot skills and broadly also a willingness and capacity to spread when necessary that ours don't tend to have mastered, for some reason.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

I think it can be a trust issue too - often Kennedy or especially Hannebery will trust team mates to win the contest, so can concentrate on finding space/spread. Ours all have the same "see ball, get ball" mentality which makes us extremely predictable at stoppages.

 

[GarnerSmash]

In fairness Parker and Hannebury have a nice burst of speed and their cruising pace is better than Jack and Cunners'. Very true re their desire and intent to spread though. This is where we lack severely. Numberous times on the weekend you could see their boys involved in waves of transition. Not so much ours.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

It was very evident that Sydney players would be moving to space/position to get the ball two or three possessions before they would even be an option. A combination of being so well drilled and having complete confidence in team mates to win contests.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

It was very evident that Sydney players would be moving to space/position to get the ball two or three possessions before they would even be an option. A combination of being so well drilled and having complete confidence in team mates to win contests.

Something we don't do.

We have too many guys who want the first possession but not the second or third.

 

[King Corey]

I think it can be a trust issue too - often Kennedy or especially Hannebery will trust team mates to win the contest, so can concentrate on finding space/spread. Ours all have the same "see ball, don't get ball" mentality which makes us extremely predictable at stoppages.

Efa.

 

[koshari]

I think the trust is diluted when chains of possetion time and time are broken by skill errors.

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[coopers pale]

I think our chains of possession break down because our mids are all standing stationary "working the triangulation". It should be (and Hawthorn tonight showed that it should be) an inside player handballs out to a player just outside the contest, who dishes a reflex give to a player slightly further outside the contest who has the time and space to give off to either: kick the ball to a leading target (not just smack it on the boot blindly) OR handball to a moving player with the pace and evasive skills to make something happen.

You see around our contests all the time 3 of our players going in at the contest, leaving 2 players unmarked on the outside. So frustrating! Man we need Nicky Dal more than ever......

 

[Black2Blue]

I think our chains of possession break down because our mids are all standing stationary "working the triangulation". It should be (and Hawthorn tonight showed that it should be) an inside player handballs out to a player just outside the contest, who dishes a reflex give to a player slightly further outside the contest who has the time and space to give off to either: kick the ball to a leading target (not just smack it on the boot blindly) OR handball to a moving player with the pace and evasive skills to make something happen.

You see around our contests all the time 3 of our players going in at the contest, leaving 2 players unmarked on the outside. So frustrating! Man we need Nicky Dal more than ever......

North Midfield Coach: "Ok boys, let's focus on positioning to read the fall of the ball from the ruck contest. We need first hands on the ball at all times."
In-and-Under Mid: "Ummmm Coach Sir, what's the set up for once we've got the ball?"
North Midfield Coach: "Errrr, ummmm.....One thing at a time. We might have a look at that next year."

 

[shinboner spiggs]

Another game, another half and a bit spent on the pine from our best under 21 player. Genius coaching.

 

[Deadeyeroo]

apparently he wasn't the fit we were after when we took him but he appeared to be a slider with to good a value to disregard.

Seeing the footage of his SANFLl GF game a couple of years ago gave me the impression he was a competitive animal.

Thanks for showing me that.

It just confirms for me how bad this club is at developing players. He hasn't improved if at all in 2 years.

However in what I've seen of him this year though he should be playing everyweek and shouldnt be a sub at all. He shows more consistency than 70% of the others on the ground lol.

 

[archereleven]

Froggy should play every game as long as he brings intensity each week. Genuine chance to be a very, very good player.

 

[muttley45]

Needs more real game time, not warming the pine in a green vest

 

[koshari]

Froggy should play every game as long as he brings intensity each week. Genuine chance to be a very, very good player.

what and have him improve and show up the leadership team that are on notice, why would you wanna do that?

 

[Psychic Roo]

If he plays more then swallow is the one who is vulnerable. Cant have swallow, cunnington, jz and dumont all playing together for most of the game.

 

[TwentyNine]

This is why our youngsters stagnate... we don't give Dumont a full game even when he performs well as the sub, but as soon as he has a quiet one (cause mostly by the rest of the team being rubbish) we drop him ASAP.

 

[koshari]

I reckon brqds been waiting to drop him for weeks. The audacity of him showing up more senior players.

 

[TwentyNine]

I reckon brqds been waiting to drop him for weeks. The audacity of him showing up more senior players.

Yep. Bastinac IN Dumont OUT just screams "HEEEERE'S BRADDY!"

 

[Bigeasy]

Hey mods, please add "and then gets dropped" at the end of the thread title.

Thanks

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