List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade Talk 2015

[jmac70]

Relax about Sidebottom. As far as I can tell, a Roos fan merely asked what he would be worth. I haven't heard this much Hysteria since Def Leppard back in '87.

Melbourne board are running with the Steele rumour too.

 

[TradeDraft]

Is anyone else going through information withdrawal? The closest we have had to new information in more than a week was Balme dodging questions on SEN before the grand final, making it sound like we had something else in the works.

2nd That. Balme gave us nothing when he is on and we have no Update for about a Week on the Treloar Trade

 

[Hardas]

Melbourne board are running with the Steele rumour too.

 

[BEEG]

2nd That. Balme gave us nothing when he is on and we have no Update for about a Week on the Treloar Trade

Balme is useless

 

[bodga22]

Treloar, two first rounders, frost upgrade , Aish?= 5 players (delisted FA? Two from port?)
Freeman, seedsman, Kennedy, Oxley?, Keeffe, Thomas, young, Dwyer,

To get those 2 first rounders we need 4 picks in the 20s. Freeman, Seeds, BenKen and Our own. How do we then get Aish as Oxley won't get it done on his own. We would definately need to add a second leaving us with 3.
Use 2 of those to get a first rounder.

So that will be:
In: Treloar, Aish, say Pick 15, say Pick 25, Frost upgrade. Total of 5 very good/ decent players that would be unlikely to get delisted in 2 years time. (And this assumes Brisbane accept Ox + 2nd Round, may demand Ox + 2 x 2nd Rounders)
Out: The 8 you mentioned plus Karnezis total of 9.

So I understand that every club must fill all spots (not entirely sure) on their list leaving us with 4.
Do we really want delisted players would be virtually useless? I guess we may not have a choice.

 

[nahnah]

Melbourne board are running with the Steele rumour too.

Well Hogan is a good list fit for us

 

[Go Woods]

DkHd's

 

[didaksrightfoot]

Is anyone else going through information withdrawal? The closest we have had to new information in more than a week was Balme dodging questions on SEN before the grand final, making it sound like we had something else in the works.

Given the amount of time we've had- you reckon some of the deals would be close to set (if not pretty much confirmed) but can't be made official until Monday (?), so they might be playing it quiet in case something unexpected happens between now and then

 

[TradeDraft]

Given the amount of time we've had- you reckon some of the deals would be close to set (if not pretty much confirmed) but can't be made official until Monday (?), so they might be playing it quiet unless something unexpected happens between now and then

I would of Thought the Media would of Written an Article saying that a Trade was Close or Done

 

[BPikkers]

In the Age article below it mentions we have expressed interest in Aaron Young from Port. What sort of player is he and why would we want him??

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news...-get-matthew-leuenberger-20151006-gk2q69.html

Very highly thought of at Port. Hasn't has a great go of it considering the strength of their midfield. I'd take him as long as he doesn't cost too much. Could be a surprise.

 

[Ketchup]

Melbourne board are running with the Steele rumour too.

Melbourne would be the team I'm going go be worried about next year when he's a free agent. Would be terrible list management by them to give something up for him this year.

 

[PhiloBeddoe]

I didn't see any mass melt in this thread of the North and Sidey issue. Did I miss something?

 

[MeisterBot]

Young to occupy Freeman's spot on the list. Sure why not?

 

[Madagascar]

To get those 2 first rounders we need 4 picks in the 20s. Freeman, Seeds, BenKen and Our own. How do we then get Aish as Oxley won't get it done on his own. We would definately need to add a second leaving us with 3.
Use 2 of those to get a first rounder.

So that will be:
In: Treloar, Aish, say Pick 15, say Pick 25, Frost upgrade. Total of 5 very good/ decent players that would be unlikely to get delisted in 2 years time. (And this assumes Brisbane accept Ox + 2nd Round, may demand Ox + 2 x 2nd Rounders)
Out: The 8 you mentioned plus Karnezis total of 9.

So I understand that every club must fill all spots (not entirely sure) on their list leaving us with 4.
Do we really want delisted players would be virtually useless? I guess we may not have a choice.

Brisbane would be dreaming to get Oxley and two second rounders. It'll be Oxley and a second rounder or GTFO!

 

[Bard]

Unfortunately Woodsman78 beat him to it in the trade thread.

Maybe Woodsman78 is his source?

 

[philthy05]

So Kennedy to Dees, Toumpas to Port and Young to us, that sound fair?

Think I would rather keep young then get Toumpas to be honest. Though I have no idea whether ports staff feel the same way I do. But young is currently the best player out of that lot.

likely we would use Moore to trade for Toumpas ...

 

[jjsmitty8]

I'm still quietly confident we'll get Aish. No real reason, just a hunch. If Brisbane plain and simply refuse though, I hope he shafts them and goes to the draft. Surely they won't be that stupid, right? Why doesn't he just insist on going to the draft, tell them now. They'd want something in return for him, even Brisbane can't be that stubborn can they?!

 

[mattys123]

It seems our strategy is becoming a little clearer as the actual trade period comes around.

Trying to get second round picks for Seeds, Freeman and Kennedy obviously means we are going to do something with those picks once we get them.

2 options;

1. Use them to get a late first round pick that we use for Aish if he nominates us
2. Use them to get back into the first round and actually use that pick

Where would Aish go in this draft if he was in the pool? (Granted he's got 2 years senior development compared to the kids).

 

[TradeDraft]

It seems our strategy is becoming a little clearer as the actual trade period comes around.

Trying to get second round picks for Seeds, Freeman and Kennedy obviously means we are going to do something with those picks once we get them.

2 options;

1. Use them to get a late first round pick that we use for Aish if he nominates us
2. Use them to get back into the first round and actually use that pick

Where would Aish go in this draft if he was in the pool? (Granted he's got 2 years senior development compared to the kids).

Agree - We are keeping our Cards close to out Chest until Trade Period.

We are normally quite good at keep Info From the Media

 

[Pedro]

He'd have to change that hair. Hard to take him seriously. He looks like one of those little old ladies minus the 2 knitting needles sticking out of his hair bun

 

[PieBeast]

Agree - We are keeping our Cards close to out Chest until Trade Period.

We are normally quite good at keep Info From the Media

But not from people with "sources"

 

[Pedro]

Relax about Sidebottom. As far as I can tell, a Roos fan merely asked what he would be worth. I haven't heard this much Hysteria since Def Leppard back in '87.

And it was too much back then as well

 

[BEEG]

Young makes sense with the direction we are trying to head in won't cost to much and will be good depth potential to be best 22

 

[Scodog10]

Is anyone else going through information withdrawal? The closest we have had to new information in more than a week was Balme dodging questions on SEN before the grand final, making it sound like we had something else in the works.

No.

On a separate note the whole emphasis on trade "period" is so OTT and contrived its beyond stupid.

The trade/ free agency window should open the day following the GF and close with the last pick of the national draft. No trade radio, no clubs meeting at Etihad and no media frenzy around every little piece of information being pulled apart to the enth degree.

It's about time the AFL took control and righted the ship on this bizarre time of year because limiting clubs to a window of 11 days to make changes to their list is insane (10 for trade week and 1 for ND).

End rant!

 

[Hagla]

No.

On a separate note the whole emphasis on trade "period" is so OTT and contrived its beyond stupid.

The trade/ free agency window should open the day following the GF and close with the last pick of the national draft. No trade radio, no clubs meeting at Etihad and no media frenzy around every little piece of information being pulled apart to the enth degree.

It's about time the AFL took control and righted the ship on this bizarre time of year because limiting clubs to a window of 11 days to make changes to their list is insane (10 for trade week and 1 for ND).

End rant!

They (the AFL) love it, it gives them another few weeks of publicity.