Traded Jake Carlisle [traded w/ #23 and #44 for #5, #24 and Craig Bird]

[marky53]

Pick 5 is overs. He is uncontracted and chosen the Saints, a pick around 12-15 would be fair but we don't have it. Unfortunately for you guys he is uncontracted and has chosen the Saints so I can't see you guys getting a big win out of he deal.

Downgrade your pick 5 and use that pick for Carlisle.

Or trade away one of your best 22 players, a young best 22 player.

There's plenty of options, get cracking Saints

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Wow common sense. How anyone can argue against this is beyond me, They argue his form and WADA as the reason why he's not worth pick 5, But the offer being made makes those reasons irrelevant and redundant.

Once again you can't tell the difference between cash ( that clubs HAVE to spend on their list ) and draft picks.
I would doubt that we have to pay him out if he is suspended by WADA, unless our contracts are drawn up by incompetent idiots from Essendon.
The risk is that we lose talent in the form of draft picks. Get it?

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

Carlton supporters kidding themselves that they didn't want Carlisle.

He's going to be AA defender and would go top 5 if the draft was held now.

At least the Saints saw logic and know what they need.

Carlton did the right thing. They set their limit and stuck to it, rather than going overboard in pursuit of another messiah.

If they'd offered as much as the Saints, he'd have nominated them. But they didn't, so good luck to them.

Great get for St Kilda.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Big coup for the saints, wada permitting

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Agree it would be a bit of a concern...St Kilda apparently offering quite a bit more than us in terms of $$$ and length of contract, yet took till now for Carlisle to pick them...does seem like its just for the contract as it was too good to refuse

Plenty of blokes have chased the $$$ & then become loyal, long term club servants. Juddy & Sammy Hamill are two pretty obvious ones.

No worries from me, Jake sounds like he had 3 attractive options to choose from & took one that offers financial security as well as potential future success.

 

[P Train]

Downgrade your pick 5 and use that pick for Carlisle.

Or trade away one of your best 22 players, a young best 22 player.

There's plenty of options, get cracking Saints

Or take our 2nd.

 

[Bic]

Carlton supporters kidding themselves that they didn't want Carlisle.

He's going to be AA defender and would go top 5 if the draft was held now.

At least the Saints saw logic and know what they need.

Nobody said we didn't want Carlisle. We offered him a contract did we not? Saints upped the offer and we chose not too.

Very simple to understand.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Even Saints supporters agree he is worth more than their second.

Looking at their first 2 picks, of course we want their first.

Wouldn't you do the same?

He's worth more than our 2nd agreed. Two seconds or Seb Ross & 2015 2nd would be great for us. How it plays out will be very interesting.

 

[Periphery]

Downgrade your pick 5 and use that pick for Carlisle.

Or trade away one of your best 22 players, a young best 22 player.

There's plenty of options, get cracking Saints

Our next two 2nd rounders. That's another option.

 

[bombers21]

Nobody said we didn't want Carlisle. We offered him a contract did we not? Saints upped the offer and we chose not too.

Very simple to understand.

It was not a serious offer. It was one where you didn't care if he knocked it back

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Lets face it 700-800k x 5 years = Probably Saints highest paid player, how is that not worth their top pick? you don't pay a guy that much money and then expect to low ball Essendon on a trade.

What you offer a bloke financially to blow any competitors out of the water is vastly different than what you pay for him pick wise.

The deal is nowhere near what you have quoted. Confirmed that it's a 4 year deal on Trade Radio to start with.

 

[juggaisgr8]

Massive pick up for StKilda and will have them leapfrog other teams in terms of development. At 23 he is right up there in terms of best key backs in the AFL. Never underestimate the value of a bloke that can take contested grabs across half back.

 

[hollywood23]

Would prefer the club to walk him to the PSD than get low-balled for a pick in the 20's.

 

[bird_man]

Downgrade your pick 5 and use that pick for Carlisle.

Or trade away one of your best 22 players, a young best 22 player.

There's plenty of options, get cracking Saints

Or you can up grade your two second round picks for a pick in the teens if that's what you want. Plenty of options for Essendon, he's uncontracted so it's your problem, get cracking Bombers...

 

[Oraaaaazio]

"If ever a club needed a player in the mould of Jake Carlisle at CHB then he's the man, at times this year, Fisher played on bigger players, Gwilt played on bigger players.." - Nathan Brown. WTF

 

[YEMOC NAYR]

Have alot of good saints mates, they are all stoked, good on them, bit of karma for us taking BJ.

Hopefully something adequate is worked out

 

[marky53]

Our next two 2nd rounders. That's another option.

Let US be the ones that are hard to deal with.

 

[Bic]

It was not a serious offer. It was one where you didn't care if he knocked it back

Yes, we offered him a contract hoping he would say no. Genius.

 

[Periphery]

Let US be the ones that are hard to deal with.

What.

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Good move by Carlisle instead of Carlton. Rubbish about the travel distance was laughable.

 

[marky53]

Or you can up grade your two second round picks for a pick in the teens if that's what you want. Plenty of options for Essendon, he's uncontracted so it's your problem, get cracking Bombers...

Best 22 player that isn't named Seb Ross.

 

[bombers21]

Yes, we offered him a contract hoping he would say no. Genius.

It wasn't a serious offer. Why would he take a pay cut?

 

[reload141]

Or take our 2nd.

Won't happen.

 

[Oraaaaazio]

What you offer a bloke financially to blow any competitors out of the water is vastly different than what you pay for him pick wise.

The deal is nowhere near what you have quoted. Confirmed that it's a 4 year deal on Trade Radio to start with.

Nowhere near it? Cause it's 4 year deal and not 5. That's pretty close I'd say.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Nowhere near it? Cause it's 4 year deal and not 5. That's pretty close I'd say.

Money wise you are at least 100K PA out.