Traded Jake Carlisle [traded w/ #23 and #44 for #5, #24 and Craig Bird]

[YEMOC NAYR]

These are all players who wanted to leave.
Have you actually had any decent trades going the other way?

Essendon FC is not a destination club. We all go through stages like this, where noone wants to come. Also efc don't usually trade- we like to develop talent.

 

[eth-dog]

These are all players who wanted to leave.
Have you actually had any decent trades going the other way?

I deal with facts. Those are facts.

#HardToDealWith

 

[Love the Drake]

We will have bellchambers, giles (haven't heard anything bout him leaving yet, still contracted) and luenberger on our list next year.


We don't need hickey.

Correct. You just need one decent ruckman..

 

[eth-dog]

Correct. You just need one decent ruckman..

All three are better than Kreuzer.

 

[Love the Drake]

All three are better than Kreuzer.

Sorry. Is that Adrian Dodoro?

 

[YEMOC NAYR]

All three are better than Kreuzer.

yuck

 

[Gavin Excell]

Ryder got to Port. Crameri got to WB. Edwards and Aylett got to Essendon. Gumbleton got to Freo.

Yes. So whats the basis of it?

 

[eth-dog]

Sorry. Is that Adrian Dodoro?

Kreuzer is a mediocre tap ruckman who averages 13 disposals. All three are better tap and are just as good around the ground.

 

[Defacto]

No way known is carlisle worth pick 5 and he isnt worth a second rounder

Sending a second rounder back for pick 5 doesnt make it any better

So something else has to be done

I think everyone can agree to that

 

[T2B_]

Yes, the one that is likely to happen:

St. Kilda and Essendon agree on a deal close to Carlisle's worth. Pick 5

I see Dodoro posts on BigFooty now.

Don't do it Saints, you hold the cards here.

 

[Love the Drake]

Kreuzer is a mediocre tap ruckman who averages 13 disposals. All three are better tap and are just as good around the ground.

You need to get off the eth 'dawg'!

 

[eth-dog]

No way known is carlisle worth pick 5 and he isnt worth a second rounder

Sending a second rounder back for pick 5 doesnt make it any better

So something else has to be done

I think everyone can agree to that

Correct. Essendon get screwed over there.

 

[Love the Drake]

I'm sure if the saints have chased Carlisle so hard they are prepared to put forward a good deal. Can see both clubs walking away happy.

 

[Paul_Barnard]

No way known is carlisle worth pick 5 and he isnt worth a second rounder

Sending a second rounder back for pick 5 doesnt make it any better

So something else has to be done

I think everyone can agree to that

Not if the second rounder gets you Freeman.

 

[The 747]

pick 5 for carlisle and essendons second rounder which is ontraded to collingwood for freeman. how is this not perfect for all?


He's not worth 5. But 5 is worth Freeman and Carlisle. Collingwood would take our second for freeman. (or if saints really wanted, they could trade their second and keep ours which is 1 selection ahead)

Collingwood win, essendon get an early selection for carlisle and our second (which I'd rate at around pick 6 or so) and saints give up pick 5 for 2 talents. Win win win

Freeman has never played an AFL game.

 

[eth-dog]

I see Dodoro posts on BigFooty now.

Don't do it Saints, you hold the cards here.

You're an idiot.

You need to get off the eth 'dawg'!

Nah. Kreuzer's shit.

 

[Paul_Barnard]

Freeman has never played an AFL game.

Neither has any player selected with pick 5.....

 

[bird_man]

All three are better than Kreuzer.

I would trade all 3 for Kruezer, even with his injury problems...

 

[YEMOC NAYR]

Freeman has never played an AFL game.

Has pick 5 played an AFL game?

Freeman is worth a second. Carlisle is a mid first. Both together adds to pick 5. #Sciencebitch

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Essendon FC is not a destination club. We all go through stages like this, where noone wants to come. Also efc don't usually trade- we like to develop talent.

I have noticed that destination clubs seem to do all right in finals.

 

[The 747]

Neither has any player selected with pick 5.....

Sure but they haven't spent two years not playing AFL while on a list, then demanded a bigger contract or they walk.

 

[The 747]

Has pick 5 played an AFL game?

Freeman is worth a second. Carlisle is a mid first. Both together adds to pick 5. #Sciencebitch

No, they do not. That is subjective not objective #logicbitch

 

[YEMOC NAYR]

No, they do not. That is subjective not objective #logicbitch

Ok, well people more in the know than you and I think this, so that's more than enough for a little BF lurker like me. #bitch

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Yes, the one that is likely to happen:

St. Kilda and Essendon agree on a deal close to Carlisle's worth. Pick 5

If i was the StKilda list manager i'd be walking away from that suggestion.
How would you ( as Essendon's list manager ) respond to me walking away?

 

[Falchoon]

Bellchambers played poorly when the club stuffed up his injury management on his ankle. He kicked 28 goals from 18 games in 2013, whilst averaging 22 hitouts as well. To put it in perspective, Dean Cox never averaged 20+ hitouts and 1.5 goals/game in his career.

Dean Cox pre Naitanui spent his career running around the half back line looking for handball receives, he had more contested marks in his last 4 years than his first 8. His Rebound 50/Inside 50 ratio is miles ahead of his contemporaries.