List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

[TheHunterCripps]

Will now take 22 for Cas then ontrade to the Hawks for Anderson

Pretty much.

Would like Hawks to sweeten by swapping their second for our third - 3-4 spot upgrade for us given potential FA compensation picks.

 

[BM123]

Freo's midfield seriously needed someone of his class though.

Plenty of grunt but their skils are lacking.

 

[KohPhi]

Bell + 3rd for Mayes = like
Early 2nd for Cas = like
On-trade for Anderson = would ideally rather pick him up cheaper but signs say he's worth it
Yaz for Pick 15-17 = like, though wouldn't mind grabbing their 2016 first as well. Get Tiges to put their confidence on the line
20 + 2016 early 2nd for those guys = like but unlikely to get done for that
Lennon in PSD a real chance = love
Hold Cats' pick = like, though would likely appease GWS for Tomlinson, which I'd do

In a perfect world it all looks great. However,
Mayes- Would love, but unless ive missed something I haven't seen any indication he wants to come to us.
Casboult - is contracted and will need to agree to go anywhere.
Anderson- Aren't we about 4th in line on where he wants to go?
Yaz- would you be happy to pay 2 first rounders for him if the shoe was on the orher foot?
Lennon- hope that eventuates.
Cats 2016 pick - like you, would give it to GWS for Tomlinson in a heartbeat.

 

[Blue and Silver]

Ross Lyon's habit of taking talented but troubled players and letting them loose without supervision is set to continue.

At what point does he hold himself morally liable for the actions of his charges I wonder? Knowing their troubles, and allowing them the space to misbehave.

Gram, Lovett, Milne.

Do the right thing, Ross. Get Harley a minder

 

[Kramer1]

Just walked by Harry Madden in Sydney airport. He gave me a nod. I take that as a good omen.

 

[alfo]

I wouldn't be stoked with 22 for Anderson (wouldn't be disappointed either).
Sure, plenty of talent but hasn't gotten a regular gig in the 1s.

I think 22 could be used better elsewhere if we were to trade it.

 

[HARKER]

Wow. Steal. Six pick downgrade and pick 35?
That said, Bennell has serious issues. He's a 95 percent chance to implode over here in the West.

We've all forgotten about Simpson.............#17 only 3 years ago for Fremantle..............hope it's not a #17 thing for them

 

[LanceRomance]

i reckon Tomlinson is a better chance now that McCarthy wont get to dockers

 

[Matty411]

In a perfect world it all looks great. However,
Mayes- Would love, but unless ive missed something I haven't seen any indication he wants to come to us.
Casboult - is contracted and will need to agree to go anywhere.
Anderson- Aren't we about 4th in line on where he wants to go?
Yaz- would you be happy to pay 2 first rounders for him if the shoe was on the orher foot?
Lennon- hope that eventuates.
Cats 2016 pick - like you, would give it to GWS for Tomlinson in a heartbeat.

Didn't mean two for Yaz - just the one. Mid-late first rounder OR 2016 first

 

[HARKER]

I wouldn't be stoked with 22 for Anderson (wouldn't be disappointed either).
Sure, plenty of talent but hasn't gotten a regular gig in the 1s.

I think 22 could be used better elsewhere if we were to trade it.

#22 for Anderson................Definitely.
#22 for Plowman & co.........Sure.

Casboult for a pick #22 which we'll carry into the draft? No thanks

 

[Malifice]

Great deal for Freo. 6 pick downgrade but keep their early pick. Lose 35 but gain Bennell.

Problem with Bennell is he's a combination of Fev and Cousins. Party boy who likes the gear a little too much. I have serious reservations about his willingness to change and his level of basic common sense. A heap of AFL players do the occasional bit of recreational drugs (some more than others) but they're smart enough not to get photographed racking up lines in a hotel by the hooker they're with, heading out for an all night bender with Dusty Martin while in negotiations with them for a job, or getting snapped with fans with eyes the size of dinner plates at a notoriously drug friendly nighclub in Perth while negotiating their next contract in Freo. Same deal as when he goes out on the piss after being told not to by his current employer, and with his career hanging on the line.

The bloke cant keep his head down or even seem to be able to pull it in when he needs to. I cant see how a move to the Perth fishbowl with our huge drug culture and bad influences everywhere is gonna help him.

I predict it wont end well.

 

[ferrisb]

Wow. Steal. Six pick downgrade and pick 35?

That said, Bennell has serious issues. He's a 95 percent chance to implode over here in the West.

Values Bennell at ~ pick 25

 

[Jatz]

Problem with Bennell is he's a combination of Fev and Cousins. Party boy who likes the gear a little too much. I have serious reservations about his willingness to change and his level of basic common sense. A heap of AFL players do the occasional bit of recreational drugs (some more than others) but they're smart enough not to get photographed racking up lines in a hotel by the hooker they're with, heading out for an all night bender with Dusty Martin while in negotiations with them for a job, or getting snapped with fans with eyes the size of dinner plates at a notoriously drug friendly nighclub in Perth while negotiating their next contract in Freo. Same deal as when he goes out on the piss after being told not to by his current employer, and with his career hanging on the line.

The bloke cant keep his head down or even seem to be able to pull it in when he needs to. I cant see how a move to the Perth fishbowl with our huge drug culture and bad influences everywhere is gonna help him.

I predict it wont end well.

Woah! I never heard about this? Was there a picture going around?

 

[El Topo]

If we manage the three consecutive picks in the early 20s, using one to get 12 for Yaz and the others for the GWS crew it will be massive.

Would essentially be losing yaz to upgrade into the top 12 (with a second rounder coming back the other way) and turning Cas into a group of hungry, talented young players. If that group includes Tomlinson and we turn Bell into Kerridge with a freebie coming in the psd it would be amazing.
Not only amazing, but seriously plausible.

 

[KohPhi]

Didn't mean two for Yaz - just the one. Mid-late first rounder OR 2016 first

Ahh..my bad.. makes more sense now

 

[Blue and Silver]

In the world of dreams:

Bell for 21
Yarran for 17
Tomlinson, Plowman, Lamb + Phillips for 21/20
Kerridge for 56

Delist Warnock, Dick, Armfield

PSD Lennon

Draft Weitering, Gresham, J. Silvagni

 

[F_therest]

If we manage the three consecutive picks in the early 20s, using one to get 12 for Yaz and the others for the GWS crew it will be massive.

Would essentially be losing yaz to upgrade into the top 12 (with a second rounder coming back the other way) and turning Cas into a group of hungry, talented young players. If that group includes Tomlinson and we turn Bell into Kerridge with a freebie coming in the psd it would be amazing.
Not only amazing, but seriously plausible.

Yazz for a 8 pick upgrade is horrible for us...

 

[Matty411]

In the world of dreams:

Bell for 21
Yarran for 17
Tomlinson, Plowman, Lamb + Phillips for 21/20
Kerridge for 56

Delist Warnock, Dick, Armfield

PSD Lennon

Draft Weitering, Gresham, J. Silvagni

Not unrealistic except for Tomlinson in that crew for just the 21 pick.

My thoughts are very close:

Bell for 21
Yarran + 20 for 12 + 31
12 + 21 for Tomlinson, Plowman, Lamb + Phillips
Kerridge for 40
Casboult for 22
PSD one of Lennon/Aish or best available

Draft - 1, 22, 31, 58
Trades - Tomlinson, Plowman, Lamb, Phillips + Kerridge
PSD - Lennon/Aish

 

[Malifice]

Woah! I never heard about this? Was there a picture going around?

Yeah man. I posted it a while back. HB was in town to do a medical with Freo etc and see family. Spotted (and posed for a photo) out at an infamous drug friendly East perth nightclub with a fan who had eyes the size of dinner plates and the caption (referring to Bennell) of 'this guy loves his Charlie' or words to that effect.

For a bloke in shit for photos surfacing of him railing up lines in a hotel, it just highlights his lack of common sense. Keep your bloody head down for a few months you idiot or you're every chance of playing footy for Centrelink next year.

 

[El Topo]

Yazz for a 8 pick upgrade is horrible for us...

I meant yaz + 20 for 12 + 31. Can't believe I suggested helping Richmond, even by accident. I'm gonna need a shower.

 

[Blue and Silver]

Not unrealistic except for Tomlinson in that crew for just the 21 pick.

My thoughts are very close:

Bell for 21
Yarran + 20 for 12 + 31
12 + 21 for Tomlinson, Plowman, Lamb + Phillips
Kerridge for 40
Casboult for 22
PSD one of Lennon/Aish or best available

Draft - 1, 22, 31, 58
Trades - Tomlinson, Plowman, Lamb, Phillips + Kerridge
PSD - Lennon/Aish

It was 20 + 21

 

[footyfan098]

this was getting mooted on the radio before:

Carlton: 17 (bris) 31 (rich)
Bris: Astbury Tom Bell
Richmond: Yarran

 

[HARKER]

this was getting mooted on the radio before:

Carlton: 17 (bris) 31 (rich)
Bris: Astbury Tom Bell
Richmond: Yarran

Not bad................but only on the strength of the 2015 Yarran.

We'd have to take it but may watch Yarran's quality elsewhere......or maybe not.

 

[Blue and Silver]

Not sure how I feel about that.

 

[ESKIE]

12 for Yarran or bugger off