Society & Culture Things in life you just don't understand

[peternorth]

How professional sportsmen take to heart what outside pundits say.

thing is they say they dont take any notice at all. but when commentators pass comment that is negative, the players sook up.

nick maxwell once said they dont care what anyone says other than those within their own four walls. obviously they did. its only natural

 

[peternorth]

im as neutral as you'll find politically speaking. why are "the right" obsessed with "the left". everything is the fault of the left. listening to andrew bolt (that maybe my problem), everything is so negative. leftys this, socialists that.

so i did some thinking which caused a migraine. and this is an extremely simplistic view of things of course... not to mention stereotypical which sometimes helps and doesnt....

traditionally, workers are ALP leaning, or left leaning yes? range from what ive read on bf as "hi res vest people". but many of them read the herald sun, a right leaning paper. wut?

 

[edgie]

Both bogans and leftist social activists prefer the ALP in a two party system. It is a strange one.

 

[peternorth]

Both bogans and leftist social activists prefer the ALP in a two party system. It is a strange one.

the whole freakin system is weird. i mean, bogans who decry "dey took our jerbs, stand up for us the workers" are contradicting themselves somewhat. the first point, about the working class jerbs denotes ALP. but at the same time, the right are about business not the workers per se.

 

[Perth gal]

Please if possible get this going again this season.

Please please please

 

[peternorth]

theory that hawthorn have the best second tier players as evidenced by their play last round verses the west coast eagles. the players are good, ok. but plonk them in a poor team/club would they perform at the same level (from sample size of one game)

 

[Gough]

Jumping to conclusions after round two is about as useful as asking "Who's winning?" at lunchtime of day one of a Test match.

 

[Quivorir]

Not really sure where to put this so it can go here.

Heard a massive bang outside last night, we thought it was somebody hitting our fence to stir up the dogs as usual, so the wife ran outside to have a go at them (I had gotten up too to have a look). She runs into the laundry and starts screaming in fear. My fight or flee instincts kicked in and I am disappointed in myself that it chose flee so I bolted to the front door leaving the wife and kid (who was asleep and didn't move at all!) to face this guy trying to barge through our laundry. By the time I got to the door I had realised what I was doing so ran back, she had pushed the door closed on the dude trying to get in and he ran around the other side of my house.

I ran outside the side door to try and confront him but I couldn't see him anywhere, I thought he must have ran into the garage so we guarded the doors (with my trusty axe as I had no idea if he had a weapon or anything) whilst my wife called the police. Turns out the wife had locked the door to the garage only 10 minutes ago, which we never do, and he had some how ran back up the side of the house before I got out there and was hiding in my backyard this whole time. He was wearing high vis so that shit clearly doesn't work as I couldn't see him!

I then hear a knock on the door and 3 guys are trying to walk in saying they are looking for the dude that just ran into my yard, saying they were his dad, brother and cousin. Told them to **** right off as the wife was already on the phone to the police and I sure as shit wasn't letting 3 randoms into my house. Turns out these 3 guys are legit his family and they think he stole their car and were trying to beat the shit out him.

I went back outside and had a look around and peer over our fence to see our back next door neighbour outside on the phone clearly distressed. Turn out he had jumped my back fence into her and banged on her garage and other doors to try and get inside also. I then find out both occasions (mine and next door neighbours) he was saying "help me!" obviously trying to get away from the 3 guys. Neighbour had rang her cousin who lives near by as her Husband works night shift and she has two young kids also and was obviously pretty shaken up. He said the police had a guy just around the block so I walked around there. Police with the guy that tried to get in my house who looked no older than 18 and scared for his. I told the police what happened and 20 minutes later they came knocking on our door to say we are fine, bunch of lying dickheads and hoon drivers (people had been hooning up and down the street all night, first time in a long time that has happened) and that it wasn't an attempted robbery or anything.

My wife is shaken up, any noise in the house she jumps at, she was too afraid to tend to the kid this morning when she woke up at 5am and pretty much just scared shitless to be alone in the house at the moment. All blinds are now closed and doors locked which is a shame as the kid likes to play outside and now we have to keep doors locked until the wife is comfortable again.

Pretty scary experience all round and I am disappointed in my response to run first of all. Will definitely try to mentally train myself for a better response in future.

TL;DR and no context version: Guy jumped our fence and tried to run into my house.

 

[Catfish Alley]

Crazy. So it was just a domestic dispute and the guy was trying to get away from his family? It doesn't sound like he was overly violent or threatening. Certainly would have been scary but it doesn't seem like you or your family are at risk.

 

[Van_Dyke]

Hope the family's alright Quiv.

 

[Quivorir]

Crazy. So it was just a domestic dispute and the guy was trying to get away from his family? It doesn't sound like he was overly violent or threatening. Certainly would have been scary but it doesn't seem like you or your family are at risk.

Not sure of the exact details, but he was definitely running from them. The car has been "crashed" (less of a crash, more of a ditch it here in this ditch and run) just around the corner and was still there this morning.

Hope the family's alright Quiv.

No risk at all I think, wife is just very shaken up. Never really experienced anything like this before. But we're all fine. I just need to keep reassuring her that we are fine.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Not sure of the exact details, but he was definitely running from them. The car has been "crashed" (less of a crash, more of a ditch it here in this ditch and run) just around the corner and was still there this morning.


No risk at all I think, wife is just very shaken up. Never really experienced anything like this before. But we're all fine. I just need to keep reassuring her that we are fine.

That sucks. What a shit thing to happen!

You can't blame yourself for your instinctive reaction, though. No one knows how they will respond until faced with a similar situation. When I was 16 my boyfriend was crash tackled and mugged, and I froze. I just stood there watching, instead of running for help (cos I was tiny 16 and fighting sure as shit wouldn't have accomplished anything), and the muggers took notice of me after a while and kicked the shit outta me too.

I was really disappointed in myself after that because I was pretty much useless, but there's nothing I could have done about it at the time.

 

[Brad Goodman]

Cranny life

 

[TheFreshBanana]

Not really sure where to put this so it can go here.

Heard a massive bang outside last night, we thought it was somebody hitting our fence to stir up the dogs as usual, so the wife ran outside to have a go at them (I had gotten up too to have a look). She runs into the laundry and starts screaming in fear. My fight or flee instincts kicked in and I am disappointed in myself that it chose flee so I bolted to the front door leaving the wife and kid (who was asleep and didn't move at all!) to face this guy trying to barge through our laundry. By the time I got to the door I had realised what I was doing so ran back, she had pushed the door closed on the dude trying to get in and he ran around the other side of my house.

I ran outside the side door to try and confront him but I couldn't see him anywhere, I thought he must have ran into the garage so we guarded the doors (with my trusty axe as I had no idea if he had a weapon or anything) whilst my wife called the police. Turns out the wife had locked the door to the garage only 10 minutes ago, which we never do, and he had some how ran back up the side of the house before I got out there and was hiding in my backyard this whole time. He was wearing high vis so that shit clearly doesn't work as I couldn't see him!

I then hear a knock on the door and 3 guys are trying to walk in saying they are looking for the dude that just ran into my yard, saying they were his dad, brother and cousin. Told them to **** right off as the wife was already on the phone to the police and I sure as shit wasn't letting 3 randoms into my house. Turns out these 3 guys are legit his family and they think he stole their car and were trying to beat the shit out him.

I went back outside and had a look around and peer over our fence to see our back next door neighbour outside on the phone clearly distressed. Turn out he had jumped my back fence into her and banged on her garage and other doors to try and get inside also. I then find out both occasions (mine and next door neighbours) he was saying "help me!" obviously trying to get away from the 3 guys. Neighbour had rang her cousin who lives near by as her Husband works night shift and she has two young kids also and was obviously pretty shaken up. He said the police had a guy just around the block so I walked around there. Police with the guy that tried to get in my house who looked no older than 18 and scared for his. I told the police what happened and 20 minutes later they came knocking on our door to say we are fine, bunch of lying dickheads and hoon drivers (people had been hooning up and down the street all night, first time in a long time that has happened) and that it wasn't an attempted robbery or anything.

My wife is shaken up, any noise in the house she jumps at, she was too afraid to tend to the kid this morning when she woke up at 5am and pretty much just scared shitless to be alone in the house at the moment. All blinds are now closed and doors locked which is a shame as the kid likes to play outside and now we have to keep doors locked until the wife is comfortable again.

Pretty scary experience all round and I am disappointed in my response to run first of all. Will definitely try to mentally train myself for a better response in future.

TL;DR and no context version: Guy jumped our fence and tried to run into my house.

Could have solved this if you had a gun in the house but an axe does pretty well.

 

[Quivorir]

Could have solved this if you had a gun in the house but an axe does pretty well.

With my stance on guns it would never happen.

 

[Run n Spread]

Not really sure where to put this so it can go here.

Heard a massive bang outside last night, we thought it was somebody hitting our fence to stir up the dogs as usual, so the wife ran outside to have a go at them (I had gotten up too to have a look). She runs into the laundry and starts screaming in fear. My fight or flee instincts kicked in and I am disappointed in myself that it chose flee so I bolted to the front door leaving the wife and kid (who was asleep and didn't move at all!) to face this guy trying to barge through our laundry. By the time I got to the door I had realised what I was doing so ran back, she had pushed the door closed on the dude trying to get in and he ran around the other side of my house.

I ran outside the side door to try and confront him but I couldn't see him anywhere, I thought he must have ran into the garage so we guarded the doors (with my trusty axe as I had no idea if he had a weapon or anything) whilst my wife called the police. Turns out the wife had locked the door to the garage only 10 minutes ago, which we never do, and he had some how ran back up the side of the house before I got out there and was hiding in my backyard this whole time. He was wearing high vis so that shit clearly doesn't work as I couldn't see him!

I then hear a knock on the door and 3 guys are trying to walk in saying they are looking for the dude that just ran into my yard, saying they were his dad, brother and cousin. Told them to **** right off as the wife was already on the phone to the police and I sure as shit wasn't letting 3 randoms into my house. Turns out these 3 guys are legit his family and they think he stole their car and were trying to beat the shit out him.

I went back outside and had a look around and peer over our fence to see our back next door neighbour outside on the phone clearly distressed. Turn out he had jumped my back fence into her and banged on her garage and other doors to try and get inside also. I then find out both occasions (mine and next door neighbours) he was saying "help me!" obviously trying to get away from the 3 guys. Neighbour had rang her cousin who lives near by as her Husband works night shift and she has two young kids also and was obviously pretty shaken up. He said the police had a guy just around the block so I walked around there. Police with the guy that tried to get in my house who looked no older than 18 and scared for his. I told the police what happened and 20 minutes later they came knocking on our door to say we are fine, bunch of lying dickheads and hoon drivers (people had been hooning up and down the street all night, first time in a long time that has happened) and that it wasn't an attempted robbery or anything.

My wife is shaken up, any noise in the house she jumps at, she was too afraid to tend to the kid this morning when she woke up at 5am and pretty much just scared shitless to be alone in the house at the moment. All blinds are now closed and doors locked which is a shame as the kid likes to play outside and now we have to keep doors locked until the wife is comfortable again.

Pretty scary experience all round and I am disappointed in my response to run first of all. Will definitely try to mentally train myself for a better response in future.

TL;DR and no context version: Guy jumped our fence and tried to run into my house.

Don't really see what else you could have done. I take it you ran got an axe and went to the laundry to block the guy out. For all you knew at the time the guy could have been armed to the teeth so you had to give you and the family a fighting chance.

 

[SwampCreature]

Could have solved this if you had a gun in the house but an axe does pretty well.

Yep, shooting people to death solves all problems.

****wit

 

[Gough]

I've always thought discretion to the better part of valour, but cowardice to be the better part of both, but I presume that must change if you have a wife, and kid at potential risk.

 

[Quivorir]

Don't really see what else you could have done. I take it you ran got an axe and went to the laundry to block the guy out. For all you knew at the time the guy could have been armed to the teeth so you had to give you and the family a fighting chance.

Axe was really a fluke I guess. As I was looking around the back yard for him I saw it lying against the fence and thought I should probably have something just incase he does have a knife or whatever.

 

[Cruyff14]

Shit man, that would have been scary.

We always make sure all our doors are locked at night.

Just gotta reassure the other wife, though I don't see how keeping the curtains closed helps things?

 

[Perth gal]

That sucks. What a shit thing to happen!

You can't blame yourself for your instinctive reaction, though. No one knows how they will respond until faced with a similar situation. When I was 16 my boyfriend was crash tackled and mugged, and I froze. I just stood there watching, instead of running for help (cos I was tiny 16 and fighting sure as shit wouldn't have accomplished anything), and the muggers took notice of me after a while and kicked the shit outta me too.

I was really disappointed in myself after that because I was pretty much useless, but there's nothing I could have done about it at the time.

 

[Plugger35]

Sounds like the guy was on meth, people do some crazy shit on that stuff.

Like Ben Cousins trying to break into the Swanbourne Army barracks and running across the roofs of houses trying to get away from the cops.

Normal people that aren't on drugs generally don't do that sort of shit.

 

[craigos]

Not really sure where to put this so it can go here.

Heard a massive bang outside last night, we thought it was somebody hitting our fence to stir up the dogs as usual, so the wife ran outside to have a go at them (I had gotten up too to have a look). She runs into the laundry and starts screaming in fear. My fight or flee instincts kicked in and I am disappointed in myself that it chose flee so I bolted to the front door leaving the wife and kid (who was asleep and didn't move at all!) to face this guy trying to barge through our laundry. By the time I got to the door I had realised what I was doing so ran back, she had pushed the door closed on the dude trying to get in and he ran around the other side of my house.

I ran outside the side door to try and confront him but I couldn't see him anywhere, I thought he must have ran into the garage so we guarded the doors (with my trusty axe as I had no idea if he had a weapon or anything) whilst my wife called the police. Turns out the wife had locked the door to the garage only 10 minutes ago, which we never do, and he had some how ran back up the side of the house before I got out there and was hiding in my backyard this whole time. He was wearing high vis so that shit clearly doesn't work as I couldn't see him!

I then hear a knock on the door and 3 guys are trying to walk in saying they are looking for the dude that just ran into my yard, saying they were his dad, brother and cousin. Told them to **** right off as the wife was already on the phone to the police and I sure as shit wasn't letting 3 randoms into my house. Turns out these 3 guys are legit his family and they think he stole their car and were trying to beat the shit out him.

I went back outside and had a look around and peer over our fence to see our back next door neighbour outside on the phone clearly distressed. Turn out he had jumped my back fence into her and banged on her garage and other doors to try and get inside also. I then find out both occasions (mine and next door neighbours) he was saying "help me!" obviously trying to get away from the 3 guys. Neighbour had rang her cousin who lives near by as her Husband works night shift and she has two young kids also and was obviously pretty shaken up. He said the police had a guy just around the block so I walked around there. Police with the guy that tried to get in my house who looked no older than 18 and scared for his. I told the police what happened and 20 minutes later they came knocking on our door to say we are fine, bunch of lying dickheads and hoon drivers (people had been hooning up and down the street all night, first time in a long time that has happened) and that it wasn't an attempted robbery or anything.

My wife is shaken up, any noise in the house she jumps at, she was too afraid to tend to the kid this morning when she woke up at 5am and pretty much just scared shitless to be alone in the house at the moment. All blinds are now closed and doors locked which is a shame as the kid likes to play outside and now we have to keep doors locked until the wife is comfortable again.

Pretty scary experience all round and I am disappointed in my response to run first of all. Will definitely try to mentally train myself for a better response in future.

TL;DR and no context version: Guy jumped our fence and tried to run into my house.

Stratton_Gun , check out this beta manlet.

In all seriousness Quiv, it's pretty much an involuntary reaction. When you realised wtf you were doing you ran back. That will probably kill your confidence a bit (man must protect wife/kid etc etc), suggest maybe taking a self defence class or the like that can help condition your responses in situations such as that. It works for a lot of people that have encountered violent/potentially violent scenarios.

 

[Quivorir]

ust gotta reassure the other wife, though I don't see how keeping the curtains closed helps things?

She was afraid of looking outside and seeing someone there. She was afraid to look at the baby monitor and see someone sitting in the kids room. She was really shaken up about the whole thing.

 

[Cruyff14]

Far out, pretty serious. Hopefully she recovers sooner rather than later.