2016 US Presidential Election - Trump vs Clinton? - Part 1

[swingdog]

Love these guys:

http://www.cafe.com/tag/the-dig/

Just listening to interview where they base their predictions on what kind of racists people are in different states, hilarious.

 

[mellowyellow]

I DON'T CLAIM A THING.
Sometimes I wonder if you are naive or just stupid. Who wouldn't claim what they are entitled to? It still doesn't mean it should be made available by the government!

Im neither but I've been on this board along enough to know that you fit that criteria to a glove.

And how about you have the courage to follow and exercise the political convictions you say you have instead of looking like a hypocritical moocha

 

[hoianbulldog]

I'll give this American election cycle one thing. It's proven once and for all how much better preferential voting systems are to first past the post. Really this should be a 4 way race between the anti-establishment right (Trump), anti-establishment left (Sanders), establishment dem (Clinton) and establishment repub (Kasich? Bush?). That would be a generally interesting election but you can't have that with their stupid voting system.

The thing that amazes me is that the entire primary system seems to be a relic from the horse and carriage days allowing candidate time to travel around and spread their message.

In moden times I can't see why they can't have a 2 month campaign With each state voting on the same day. Those who voted first have had to sit back for months and watch the candidates debate issues. How many of those would change their vote if they were voting now.

Same goes for the states voting last when their vote is potentially irrelevant because the candidate has already been decided.

The entire system is warped.

WTF is the go with winner takes all states. That is not democracy in any way shape or form.

Totally screwed up system.

On another not, I was chatting with an American women the other day and we were chatting about Trump.
She was very matter of fact about the CIA taking him out if he were to become president. Far fetched?

 

[Lebbo73]

Im neither but I've been on this board along enough to know that you fit that criteria to a glove.

And how about you have the courage to follow and exercise the political convictions you say you have instead of looking like a hypocritical moocha

You have been on this board along enough to believe this, hey!
As I said, I don't claim anything from the govt. My wife does.

 

[hazard]

https://streamable.com/f2dx

This video pretty much sums up the last 150 pages of this thread. CAN'T STUMP, WON'T STUMP.

 

[JoseMourinho]

Or just put it as "drumpf is the first to not hand in tax returns since it became standard republican candidate practice in 1968)

No because it ruins everything, it wants it to stick so they need to throw Richard Nixon in there who was the most corrupt president that America had.

 

[JoseMourinho]

If you really did feel strongly about it you wouldn't accept it out of principle. If you did accept it then you probably should shut up about it and stop going on and on

When it comes to money, with most people it goes out the door.

I mean I had a certain someone tell me when looking at Multi-nationals avoiding tax if I wanted a part of the $3 billion dollar pie when stating that it would be really hard to tax them.

 

[JoseMourinho]

WTF is the go with winner takes all states. That is not democracy in any way shape or form.

I understand a few states that are usually republican in the elections but with states like Florida/Ohio being winner takes all is kinda stupid since they are swing states.

 

[mellowyellow]

https://streamable.com/f2dx

This video pretty much sums up the last 150 pages of this thread. CAN'T STUMP, WON'T STUMP.

I believe that this is his kryptonite

The Democrats need to make it their mantra....

 

[TheMightyEagles]

If you really did feel strongly about it you wouldn't accept it out of principle. If you did accept it then you probably should shut up about it and stop going on and on

Unlike all of those people just lining up to donate their homes back to the indigenous people? Or all of those advocates going out of their way to shelter refugees in their homes?

 

[the bee sharps]

Crooked Hillary: Arf arf arf!

Brutal

 

[HenrikLundqvist]

If Hillary Clinton can't satisfy her husband what makes her think she can satisfy America?

 

[WA ROO]

If Hillary Clinton can't satisfy her husband what makes her think she can satisfy America?

Sub contract it out like she did with Bill

 

[the bee sharps]

Brilliant speech by Trump and Christie

 

[Father Jack]

Unlike all of those people just lining up to donate their homes back to the indigenous people? Or all of those advocates going out of their way to shelter refugees in their homes?

That doesn't make a lot of sense, the only ones who think the government shouldn't do the sorts of things that governments should be doing tend to be on the opposite side of the political spectrum. And anyway, the government wouldn't let them shelter refugees due to that being somewhat humane

 

[SexyBlueGirl]

You're telling me to forget Nixon after you said Trump is in some good company with not releasing tax returns and referring directly to Nixon.

You're a walking contradiction.

I'm through trying to explain ABC to you. You are the only person here who did not understand it. Speaks volumes as to how stupid you are.

 

[JoseMourinho]

I believe that this is his kryptonite

The Democrats need to make it their mantra....

Look at those hands, folks! They are a beautiful set of hands! They are amazing, they make so many things and allow us to do more than any other part our body! Hands are amazing!

 

[swingdog]

WTF is the go with winner takes all states. That is not democracy in any way shape or form.

Totally screwed up system.

Remember the primaries aren't supposed to be democratic or fair.

 

[SexyBlueGirl]

Sure. Same with the >10,000,000 people who have voted for Trump in the primaries, we're all just trying to bait you. No way anyone actually supports his foreign policies, his trade policies, his tax policies, or his social attitudes

He's changed his tune on so many of his positions I'm not sure where he stands on anything anymore.

All over the shop. Embarrassing.

 

[SexyBlueGirl]

Remember the primaries aren't supposed to be democratic or fair.

Do you know how general elections work in America?

 

[swingdog]

Do you know how general elections work in America?

Yes.

He was talking about the primaries, not the general election. Primaries are selection processes run by private entities. They can do what they want.

 

[SexyBlueGirl]

Yes.

He was talking about the primaries, not the general election. Primaries are selection processes run by private entities. They can do what they want.

Primaries are far more democratic than the general overall.

 

[hazard]

He's changed his tune on so many of his positions I'm not sure where he stands on anything anymore.

All over the shop. Embarrassing.

You're just like Crooked Hillary... Easily confused!

 

[hazard]

Look at those hands, folks! They are a beautiful set of hands! They are amazing, they make so many things and allow us to do more than any other part our body! Hands are amazing!

Don't we love our Trump hands? Some the greatest hands in the world, we love his hands. You speak to people on the street, incredible people, and they say they love Trump's hands.

 

[smokingjacket]

You're just like Crooked Hillary... Easily confused!

It's a fair point. You seem to have a pretty good grasp of his campaign so far. What do you think the outline of his foreign policy outline is?