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Corbyn is being undermined every step of the way by his own party and the mainstream media who refuse to accept the will of the people. Clearing those types out is good for the party in the long term.
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The bloke was elected basically on a platform of driving Blairism out of the party. Of course they are going to fight back.But they are the ones that were and are actively trying to undermine him from the moment he won the leadership ballot last year. Do you expect him to be loyal to them despite it not being reciprocated?
The bloke was elected basically on a platform of driving Blairism out of the party. Of course they are going to fight back.
Regardless, I'm not blaming anyone specifically. I'm just saying that (for better or worse) it's stupid to think the party could ever unite behind someone so divisive.
At the end of the day they were elected to their constituencies as well.
They may splinter. Or they may be voted out. But in the meantime you shouldn't expect turkeys to vote for Christmas.
Is Owen Smith really the best they could do? He's supposedly a leftie who cares about community and people but was more than happy to earn make big coin as the head of government relations at Pfizer. Hmmm.
He's also shown how he's not a spin master right from his campaign launch. White shirt, no tie, sleeves rolled up with people in the background. Gives a real 'man of the people' vibe.
It's authentic too. Just like these men of the people.
You could say the same about Corbyn - he shouldn't be sabotaging his own MPs, who were selected and elected with their own mandate.And thats fine. But while they are in the Labour party they should respect the wishes of the membership to have Jeremy Corbyn as leader.
If they cant even support their leader (and are actively trying to sabotage his leadership) then maybe they should leave Labour.
Support doesnt mean agree with every policy. I mean look at Corbyn. He sat on the backbenches for years putting up with New Labour Blairites running the show. He dissented on alot of stuff put forward by his own party but still kept working to ensure Labour's success. If they would prefer Theresa May as PM rather than Corbyn then clearly they are in the wrong party.
You could say the same about Corbyn - he shouldn't be sabotaging his own MPs, who were selected and elected with their own mandate.
The 'they started it' stuff is schoolyard bullshit anyway. Bottom line is that there's not really anyone to blame. It's just two factions who both want their party to be something the other guys don't, fighting. One will win and the others will get the arse. Neither has moral high ground, so get over it.
The Blairites were preselected by the ALP membership. They have their own mandate from the party's base.
Saying Corbyn wanted to work with them is disingenous; the very nature of his policy positions makes that impossible. Wake up and smell the coffee - or something else brown and sticky. Both sides represent a substantial portion of Labour voters, and neither will tolerate the other.
The Blairites were preselected by the ALP membership. They have their own mandate from the party's base.
Saying Corbyn wanted to work with them is disingenous; the very nature of his policy positions makes that impossible. Wake up and smell the coffee - or something else brown and sticky. Both sides represent a substantial portion of Labour voters, and neither will tolerate the other.
You can not refer to Corbyn as having fringe views when he won the leadership so convincingly. His views reflect the majority of the party membership or they would not have elected him.If that's what you want to tell yourself, go ahead. However, it's the mindset of someone who is irredeemably partisan.
The opposing argument is equally valid. Why should the views of elected MPs and the people who voted for and preselected them be disregarded in favour of a leader with fringe views who rode to power on the coattails of the unions?
You are emblematic of the problem - people picking sides and thinking they have some moral high ground where none exists. Labour are burning their own party to the ground, and they deserve it. If they split, they will have destroyed themselves for a generation.
Shame about the British people - with the current pack of jokers in government, they desperately need an Opposition that aren't a complete rabble.
Different year, same result. Jeremy Corbyn is set to win another landslide victory in the Labour leadership election. The long-anticipated Times/YouGov poll puts Corbyn ahead of Owen Smith by 62 per cent to 38 per cent: an even bigger margin of victory than in 2015 (when he won 59.5 per cent).
YouGov, which has called the last two contests correctly, shows Corbyn leading comfortably among all three groups: party members (52-40), registered supporters (70-25) and affiliated supporters (54-33).
http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...-win-landslide-victory-what-now-his-opponents
Really? Corybyn is unelectable he doesnt care about governing only purity.The mainstream corporate media slag him at every turn, but Corbyn is a herald of the fact young people are turning rapidly toward socialism. The fact the right wing of his party are willing to destroy their own party just to attack him is very important.
The same thing is very shortly going to happen in Australia within the ALP.
Even the Greens wouldn't get away with thisThere won't be an Australian Corbyn as left wing voters have simply shifted to the Greens.
My thoughts are with those whose lives were shattered on 9/11/2001 - and in the wars and terror unleashed across the globe in its aftermath
Even the Greens wouldn't get away with this
My thoughts are with those whose lives were shattered on 9/11/2001 - and in the wars and terror unleashed across the globe in its aftermath
Corbyn is being undermined every step of the way by his own party and the mainstream media who refuse to accept the will of the people.