Mega Thread The POST 2016 SEASON Buckley Coaching Discussion Thread (Latest: not much happening)

[Magpie Girl]

Now that the season has finished a new thread has been started for discussion and review

The other Buckley coaching thread needed to be closed because it was becoming too big, and Chief says they break Big Footy.



The earlier Buckley Coaching Thread can be found here https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/the-2016-buckley-coaching-discussion.1121729/

 

[Good_Old]

 

[danielnajdek]

INB4 Haters.

Bucks is the best!!!

 

[Unknown Identity]

Post bye i was encouraged with some of our footy.

We beat GWS, West Coast, Fremantle, Carlton and Gold Coast.

The first 2 obviously the stand outs.

We took it right up to Dogs and Hawks.
Played 3 good quarters against Adelaide.

Saw some encouraging signs and positive footy. Our defensive structure needs the most work and i really hope that it's what we focus on.

I like that he trialled some players up forward and gave games to some kids.

Will be interesting to see what this trip to the US brings.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

A new Buckley thread?
Buckley broke the Internet?

Folks here we go....

For the happy Nthan campers, the negative Nathans, the medium Nathan

It's all here.

Enjoy or not....


Now which camp am I in?

 

[10571z]

Post bye i was encouraged with some of our footy.

We beat GWS, West Coast, Fremantle, Carlton and Gold Coast.

The first 2 obviously the stand outs.

We took it right up to Dogs and Hawks.
Played 3 good quarters against Adelaide.

Saw some encouraging signs and positive footy. Our defensive structure needs the most work and i really hope that it's what we focus on.

I like that he trialled some players up forward and gave games to some kids.

Will be interesting to see what this trip to the US brings.

Well said. Up and comming teams sneak wins against good teams like we did. We haven't got a player over 30 so should only improve

 

[Dynamics]

Interested to see who's first to christen the new thread with a Buckley bake.

The tension is killing me!

 

[good4footy]

Interested to see who's first to christen the new thread with a Buckley bake.

The tension is killing me!

When is TG's suspension up? Apparently the ball bounced left instead of right and it was bad coaching.

 

[DrDavoren]

As said further up our season can really be broken into two halves.

If they were reversed I think we may have been mirroring Brisbane this week.

Thank god they weren't.

We all know there were injuries and lack of any real continuity for another year, but I am starting to think that something is starting to happen.

It will be an interesting period to see if any changes are made to the Coaching dept. I would like to see Tapping given an opportunity next year.

I think we need to invest in a ruck and specialist forward coach too.

I am looking forward to see how Buckley can go with a healthier playing list at his disposal.

I think next year will see a few regulars struggle to keep their spots and Bucks needs to go on form and not play favourites when they drop off.

Bucks also needs to deliver us a clearer game plan.

Definitely must fall on his sword if we don't reach finals though and probably Eddie would need to go too.

 

[BEEG]

Slide by slide

 

[Maggie5]

Slide by slide

Aaaand we have a winneer.

 

[No SPIN]

A couple of scenario's for the W/L obsessives:
1- we beat teams around and below us but lose to 7 of the TOP 8 - and sneek into the finals
2- we beat 7 of the TOP 8 but unluckily miss the 8, due to a very even season for many clubs.

Are you happy to re appoint Bucks under scenario 1?

Are you happy to sack Buckley under scenario 2?

 

[lyfsux]

^^^^^^
Cant make up my mind
Can we do both

 

[Run n Spread]

Shades of Geelong 06 about this one. Different times I know, someone just needs to tell Buckley to focus on a gameplan that works circa Geelong, GWS, Hawthorn not the press crap. And coach and coach only. Tactics and footy only. Have someone else work with the players non footy related training mid week and massage their ego. Buckley is a good coach and brilliant list builder and under stander of footy and trends but a God awful man manager. So have someone else do that.

 

[Vicky Park]

What really stood out for me this year, compared to 2014 and 2015, was that our best games were much better than previous years, and our worse games were, well, much worse. Some of those God-awful games at the 'G in the first half of the year were truly devastating.

Then there were the exhilarating games against Geelong, GWS, West Coast and the Doggies, and yesterday against Hawthorn.

In the second half of the year I sensed we were starting to gell, with a more settled line-up, although still getting hit by injuries. But just when I was sensing this, we played another God-awful game against North Melbourne, and stuck a fork in our finals chances.

The coach and coaching group must take responsibility for the failed attempt at the zone; imbalances in selection some weeks; the games when we just didnt turn up. OK, you can expect the latter from younger developing teams, but the former is inexcusable. Buck's has just finished his fifth year as senior coach. He should not be making rookie mistakes. We have terrific kids and we dont want their development curtailed. 2017 really is Bucks' make or break year. I want him to succeed, but the experiment has to end, one way or the other, in 2017.

 

[Yidaki]

jmac70 thoughts?

 

[AgroMagro]

A couple of scenario's for the W/L obsessives:
1- we beat teams around and below us but lose to 7 of the TOP 8 - and sneek into the finals
2- we beat 7 of the TOP 8 but unluckily miss the 8, due to a very even season for many clubs.

Are you happy to re appoint Bucks under scenario 1?

Are you happy to sack Buckley under scenario 2?

Crikey. If you beat seven out of the eight top sides and still can't make the eight, I'd suggest you've got much bigger problems than not having luck on your side.

 

[Maggie5]

A couple of scenario's for the W/L obsessives:
1- we beat teams around and below us but lose to 7 of the TOP 8 - and sneek into the finals
2- we beat 7 of the TOP 8 but unluckily miss the 8, due to a very even season for many clubs.

Are you happy to re appoint Bucks under scenario 1?

Are you happy to sack Buckley under scenario 2?

Has to be No 1 and not sneak in but in with a chance otherwise, he will be moved on I would think.

 

[SuperSub17]

What really stood out for me this year, compared to 2014 and 2015, was that our best games were much better than previous years, and our worse games were, well, much worse. Some of those God-awful games at the 'G in the first half of the year were truly devastating.

Not sure I would say our losses were worse. In 2015 we had those abominations against Melbourne and Richmond late in the season where we didn't look like running at all. There was also that weird game against Geelong when we trailed at HT by 50 points. 2014 there was that Essendon debacle where we kicked 5 goals for the whole game and the Brisbane game at the G when we lost by 11 goals to a rabble (even though we had a few injuries that night). I think sometimes it's easy to forget how bad those were.

I'd definitely agree our best was better though. Probably our best game in 2014 was against North early in the year (won by 6 goals) or maybe Sydney at ANZ before they got up and going (won by 20). 2015 was either our close loss to Hawthorn or the jekyll-and-hyde afternoon vs North at the G. This year we absolutely tore apart premiership contenders in Geelong and GWS (away) - it's no contest.

 

[No SPIN]

Crikey. If you beat seven out of the eight top sides and still can't make the eight, I'd suggest you've got much bigger problems than not having luck on your side.

like what?
beating 6 of the top 8 this year would still have us missing the 8

 

[TW Sherrin]

I'll play devils advocate.

When the club decided to turn the list over they also had to teach a lot of kids how to play footy. I'll draw a comparison with MaCartney and the Dogs.

During MaCartneys time they were a hard ball / contested team. I think they were at the top of the table for contested ball but that was all he taught them. McRae go dropped for getting soft footy. I credit a lot of the dogs current performance back to him. He taught them a base which everything now flows from.

Have we just been through the "hard-contested ball/pressure" phase of development? The club has been on a well publicised plan aimed at 2017 / 2018.

Maybe they expected to play finals this year but that went pear shaped when half the side was missing early in the year.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Aaaand we have a winneer.

And it was original.
But beeg is ok

 

[No SPIN]

Has to be No 1 and not sneak in but in with a chance otherwise, he will be moved on I would think.

ok - but should he be moved on under scenario 2?

 

[AgroMagro]

like what?

12 wins got a team in the eight this year. If you can't scrape together 5 wins against bottom eight sides after beating 7 of the 8 top teams then I'd start with negligence.

 

[Maggie5]

And it was original.
But beeg is ok

I know, BEEG took it in the right spirit, just kidding but he still was very cleverly first.