Mega Thread Trade/Draft/Delist SuperMegaUltrathread - 2016/17 offseason edition

[new breed]

is there a source for the mccarthy / pickett?
not busting chops, just want to read about it.

afl.com has a trade day summary article , Hanley the main topic but other possible movements are outlined .

 

[Barney44]

We don't want McCarthy. Fremantle can have him.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

We don't want McCarthy. Fremantle can have him.

I'd take him.

 

[QS]

I think the real area which we aren't trying to exploit and that afl clubs in general aren't trying to exploit enough is going hard at guys coming off their first contract. If they look to have the goods giving them a good contract early would hopefully get a lot more guys nominating to come our way. The other aspect to this is that even if you don't get them to your club by shaking the tree it forces other clubs to pay them more thus leaving them with less room in regards to free agents. If you look at building a successful list you really only need 2 best 22 players from each draft / trade period and to then pick up a free agent who's best 22 every second season.

The other area in which i think afl clubs in general aren't doing at a world best level is in managing the salary cap. Going forward i think realistically we could work on an average of there being an increase in TPP of 7-8% a year and look at structuring players deals accordingly. If you pay players a % of your total cap it can work both in the clubs and the players favour as generally the cap will increase by more than expected and secondly if there is a years where it doesn't increase by as much as expected you are covered both ways. Looking at generic contract numbers of 400k or 450k or 500k or 800k a year makes things a lot more difficult to balance in the future as opposed to 4%, 4.5%, 5%, 8% etc. etc.

As a club we need to stop being the good guy, community focussed, lay down at the trade table bitches that we have become and get back to being leaders in strategic innovation and professionalism as we once were.

All well and good, but player agents always push for more year on year especially when there is growth to be had with a particular player as he matures. This is generally apparent with the third contract eg, 21/22 - 25/26 when a player is said to be approaching their prime. It's a stab in the dark but a risk because you might be stuck with a player who didn't come on who you are paying more for in their 3rd, 4th or 5th year (depending on the deal). Strip down the nuts and bolts and really we are just paying players more to play in WA.

We need to be able to sell more than that which may require the club to think outside the box a little. I know some clubs we have dealt with try to screw a player price down so Vic clubs aren't paying too much for their players (or at least try not to).

 

[twce13]

I'd take him.

depends on how much freo are offering him. anything above 500k is probably over paying. Just the fact we can get him cheap (trade-wise) makes him appealing.

 

[boondy]

20km or more? Now ur full of it.

Basketball is very taxing on body. Especially on knees worse than afl.

But we r talking about why flying itself is detrimental. The science of it.

For example if u play on concrete than grass, ur knees will suffer more due to less give and therefore higher dynamic load through joints. See that's science.

Now flying is more detrimental because....

flying doesnt hurt your knees . if you walked to Melbourne you would have sore knees

 

[DanWCE]

is there a source for the mccarthy / pickett?
not busting chops, just want to read about it.

GWS list manager guy was asked if Pickett is getable and he said maybe but no clubs have enquired. Would've liked to have heard we had at least asked the question

 

[Galileo9]

What I mean by that is he generally doesn't break the speed limit does he.
Similar to hutchings and priddis.

Well Jetta does. Faster than Rioli remember.

Look how that worked out.

 

[kranky al]

Which is still on a plane. So it's the seats?

I swear you dont actually read anyone elses posts.

Myself and others have posted several facts contradicting you and you just cherry pick them and reply to snippets.

Wate of time talking to you - i may as well engage a ham sandwich in debate.

 

[kranky al]

We probably need to look at logan or hobb.

 

[Galileo9]

Tom Lee from Saints should be our main target.

Can't get a game at a bottom half club...good enough for WCE just because west Australian.

Typical.wce.fan.thinking.

 

[Chris_6678]

Can't get a game at a bottom half club...good enough for WCE just because west Australian.

Typical.wce.fan.thinking.

I was kidding around.

 

[Galileo9]

Depending on the league the teams might be weighted slightly more to the west, not massively and not nearly to the extent of the AFL. They fly significantly more than AFL sides but the east coast sides fly as much, or almost as much, as the west coast sides.

So, they all fly a lot. Don't see them falling over with shortened careers due to flying.

 

[QS]

may as well engage a ham sandwich in debate.

We don't do sandwiches around here. Apologise to the sub-gods.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

So, they all fly a lot. Don't see them falling over with shortened careers due to flying.

Shorter than what? Who knows how long their careers would last if every team was based in New York and there was no travel involved?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Listened to some SEN on the way home, they discussed the Petrie situation a bit.

They thought he was cooked too, although they pointed out everyone thought Stevie J was cooked this time last year and he turned it around with a change of scenery.

They said we'd approached Jesse White but he didn't want to leave Collingwood, which I hadn't heard.

They also asked who's recruited someone to play that forward ruck role and have it work out, and couldn't think of anyone. I was yelling "Leigh Brown" at them. I thought afterwards David Hale was another example.

 

[QS]

Jesse ****ing White? lol

 

[Biggie]

Can't get a game at a bottom half club...good enough for WCE just because west Australian.

Typical.wce.fan.thinking.

Are you always this serious?

 

[jakefooty23]

We probably need to look at logan or hobb.

Have you not heard? Lol

 

[QS]

We probably need to look at logan or hobb.

Agreed. Have we spoken to them?

 

[Biggie]

What about Hogan or Lobb?

 

[Monocle]

Depending on the league the teams might be weighted slightly more to the west, not massively and not nearly to the extent of the AFL. They fly significantly more than AFL sides but the east coast sides fly as much, or almost as much, as the west coast sides.

They also fly a lot of north / south , south / north routes.

San Diego to Seattle and Tampa to NY so time zones are not an issue.

All NFL teams fly sort of equally and the Super Bowel for the most part is in neutral territory.

 

[Godfather32]

It's pretty even. We've got Hill, Wellingham, Cripps, Morton, Yeo, Jetta in the past few years.

Thanks, I've been trying to forget about that one

 

[salo]

Eagles offered Brown the contract as insurance for Brown should he not get picked up in free agency, Browns first choice would be back in Melbourne .
WCE are being considerate and loyal.

why wouldn't we just focus on building a competitive team?

no point hanging onto dead wood.

insurance for exploring emac movement sounds more logical and professional to me, with all due respect.

 

[Obeanie1]

I thought your original post was that shuey wasn't a hard at it mid?

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Nope....Shuey has a crack but then we have Priddis........then.......daylight.

We need some tough and IMO bigger , taller mids.