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It's very difficult to have a conversation in here anymore sadly. Would like to discuss the merits of trumps cabinet picks for example and what they might mean but then Procrastinator35 will start up on CIA obama Hillary warmonger for the millionth time and you wonder how that relates to trump nominating someone to the budget office that is on record saying that the us should default on its debts, and it wouldn't be a big deal :shrugs:I'd be interested in hearing anyone else's analysis on whether Procrastinator changed to became an incessant re-tweeter of Russian propaganda, or if I just didn't notice his varying anger wasn't that far removed from Breitbart types... The problem is that there doesn't seem to be many people here other than whackos?
Don't you have a whole new board to turn into a socialist utopian safe space?Everyday of Trump's presidency will represent a victory for old, rich, straight, white men, the very same who are telling us the identity politics doesn't matter anymore. F*** right off.
Doris Lessing Nobel prize winning author ranked 5th most influential writer since 1945 - famous for little notebook of 1962 on feminism, communism ...What the **** does does British author Doris Lessing have to do with contemporary politics? Or did you mean 18th century German art critic Gotthold Ephraim Lessing? In which case I'm still struggling to see the link to current political mores.
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Or we could have had the war mongering darling who orgasmed on tv when she heard gaddafi was executed with a rifle in his rectum, who is beholden to the arms industry, wall st, central banks...Everyday of Trump's presidency will represent a victory for old, rich, straight, white men, the very same who are telling us the identity politics doesn't matter anymore. F*** right off.
Come on Gough, we all know Obama was yours 8 years ago.You're the one following a false messiah mate, not the other way around.
The proof will be in the pudding. I think trump is a clown and that the people who voted for him will suffer most. He is undoubtedly a bigot and he is easily manipulated.Let me try to convey the sheer joy and amusement many of us are experiencing observing the total melt down dummy spit tantrums from the guardian, ny times, Washington post and their smug superior true believers from around the world.
The Trump and Brexit wins are major historical events because it was a rejection of the entire prevailing hypocrisy in the western world.
Let's shine a little light on the astounding smug nonsense of the prevailing social liberal heart: economics is everything not identity -our identity is a social construction.
Economics determines the quality of life not identity. Identity is a lazy obese 1st world problem.
Economis and this class politics unites us - identity politics divides us.
A black, transgender billionaire has more in common with other billionaires than other black trans gender brothers / sisters.
All the our civil rights improvements pertaining to race, gender, sexual orientation have nothing to do with PC, MLK, Greer, Lessing... and everything to do with economic changes due to technology. PC is akin to believing in magic spells - words are not reality and only obscure reality.
Ergo climate change can not and will not be addressed by social justice warriors, it will be changed by technology and economics. The evangelical zeal which stridently demands our self-flagelation is a conceited regression to some weirdo secular religion - awaiting doomsday.
If you really give a hoot - buy some solar panels, batteries and jump into the future. If you really give a hoot there are myriad of worthy causes within the grasp of individuals to protect environmental degradation, species extinction ...
Real things not awaiting divine intervention.
The prevailing mindset has flipped cause and effect. It has abandoned rationality for symbols of compassion - all the while ignoring illegal wars, torture, the destruction of cities, the detention of children, the worst concetrTion of wealth in history, the degradation of education, health. And if someone exposes any of this they are condemn as rapists - see Assange.
The sheer scale of mendAcity is breath taking. Well the smug guardians got a reality slap.
In the end, the victory of brexit and trump is not a vote for either brexit or trump it's a rejection of prevailing global confederation of smug dunces.
You might want to do a quick run through of trumps cabinet... because you clearly have no idea of his selections.Or we could have had the war mongering darling who orgasmed on tv when she heard gaddafi was executed with a rifle in his rectum, who is beholden to the arms industry, wall st, central banks...
Who changed her every policy during the primaries against Sanders proving she believes in entirely nothing.
Who had failed at everything she ever touched after her husbands presidency.
Who had effectively one legitimate reason to stand for president - she is woman. Who effectively campaigned on that single issue condemning Trump as a misogynist.
Come on - ok the populace has been dumbed down but the candidacy of Hillary was just a step too far. She is nothing but identity politics - and as dumb as we collectively maybe - enough people realized that identity politics is just spin to get elected and feel superior whilst enjoying the very fruits of the thing you condemn.
You know you do live in a white Christian country which disposed its original inhabitants and still marginalized them in all but words.
No amount of words or nice sentiments can rescue you from that whilst you remain enjoying the fruit of luxury which we obtained from that dispossession. The hypocrisy!! Grow up.
Accept the guilt as the march ofhistory and move towards forging a better future for all mankind instead bathing in hate regret recriminations.
It's very difficult to have a conversation in here anymore sadly. Would like to discuss the merits of trumps cabinet picks for example and what they might mean but then Procrastinator35 will start up on CIA obama Hillary warmonger for the millionth time and you wonder how that relates to trump nominating someone to the budget office that is on record saying that the us should default on its debts, and it wouldn't be a big deal :shrugs:
History has judgedThe proof will be in the pudding. I think trump is a clown and that the people who voted for him will suffer most. He is undoubtedly a bigot and he is easily manipulated.
If anyone has doubts you'll need to wait I guess.
He is ignorant of global events and has no empathy. But if you think it's grand that he's out side the loop and non PC and all that irrelevant shit and that the main stream media are ******s, you can believe it if it makes you feel good. Doesn't matter, history will judge.
Ooh, I'm unsure if your bot-boss will be happy about this reply. The human user pointed out there was nothing in our conversation about PC, but your programming has made you bang on about PC-ness. Maybe because I typed it? Hmmm. Unless English isn't your first language?Let me try to convey the sheer joy and amusement many of us are experiencing observing the total melt down dummy spit tantrums from the guardian, ny times, Washington post and their smug superior true believers from around the world.
The Trump and Brexit wins are major historical events because it was a rejection of the entire prevailing hypocrisy in the western world.
Let's shine a little light on the astounding smug nonsense of the prevailing social liberal heart: economics is everything not identity -our identity is a social construction.
Economics determines the quality of life not identity. Identity is a lazy obese 1st world problem.
Economis and this class politics unites us - identity politics divides us.
A black, transgender billionaire has more in common with other billionaires than other black trans gender brothers / sisters.
All the our civil rights improvements pertaining to race, gender, sexual orientation have nothing to do with PC, MLK, Greer, Lessing... and everything to do with economic changes due to technology. PC is akin to believing in magic spells - words are not reality and only obscure reality.
Ergo climate change can not and will not be addressed by social justice warriors, it will be changed by technology and economics. The evangelical zeal which stridently demands our self-flagelation is a conceited regression to some weirdo secular religion - awaiting doomsday.
If you really give a hoot - buy some solar panels, batteries and jump into the future. If you really give a hoot there are myriad of worthy causes within the grasp of individuals to protect environmental degradation, species extinction ...
Real things not awaiting divine intervention.
The prevailing mindset has flipped cause and effect. It has abandoned rationality for symbols of compassion - all the while ignoring illegal wars, torture, the destruction of cities, the detention of children, the worst concetrTion of wealth in history, the degradation of education, health. And if someone exposes any of this they are condemn as rapists - see Assange.
The sheer scale of mendAcity is breath taking. Well the smug guardians got a reality slap.
In the end, the victory of brexit and trump is not a vote for either brexit or trump it's a rejection of prevailing global confederation of smug dunces.
I agree. It's regrettable though that those on the edge of night, to paraphrase bowie, are the victims.So you're into guilt tripping sadism too I see....By all means>....You, Cooldude & Rats of Tobruk have at it.
In the meantime: Russia, the C.I.A, the F.B.I, Hilary/Trump & election fraud/hacking, continue to remain front & center in the MSM....As they should.
FWIW....I'd enjoy seeing the entire political edifice be exposed & crumble to pieces, for the worthless, corrupt wreck that it is.
The Clinton's, the Bush's & Obama made Trump possible....America has the leader it's system deserves....A 100% crook & charlatan.
At the very least, it's out in the open now.
Again - Trump is a dickYou might want to do a quick run through of trumps cabinet... because you clearly have no idea of his selections.
One guy is nick named "mad dog"... I'll leave the rest to you
For real? A place that could moderate out the ideologues and sock-puppets would be great. And before you say 'free speech' you'll have to clean your posting history of all the times you've said that someone using their free speech to say 'islamophobe' or 'racism' is curtailing free speech...Don't you have a whole new board to turn into a socialist utopian safe space?
And he was always like that? I remember him being pretty aggressive about the system, but I don't recall the falling in line with Russia aspect. Maybe there has been a lot of talk about Russia and this has somehow pushed him into a Breitbarty camp? Or is it the guilt of Trump winning and how crap he clearly is making Procrastinator double-down?It's very difficult to have a conversation in here anymore sadly. Would like to discuss the merits of trumps cabinet picks for example and what they might mean but then Procrastinator35 will start up on CIA obama Hillary warmonger for the millionth time and you wonder how that relates to trump nominating someone to the budget office that is on record saying that the us should default on its debts, and it wouldn't be a big deal :shrugs:
Hilary has gone. She has always been irrelevant in my discussion. The point was that you crap on about establishment corruption and how is over now, when in fact trump has an incredibly establishment heavy cabinet. you also talked about war mongering, and I mentioned that trumps man is basically the professor of rifles up bums 1.01Again - Trump is a dick
So is Hillary
A generals nick name is hardly a compelling argument.
What is it with the binary arguments?
Saint Hillary!!
The devil Putin.
What nonsense - boogie woogie
Fantastic now I'm a Putin paid poster! This gorgeous keep it coming.Ooh, I'm unsure if your bot-boss will be happy about this reply. The human user pointed out there was nothing in our conversation about PC, but your programming has made you bang on about PC-ness. Maybe because I typed it? Hmmm. Unless English isn't your first language?
Interesting how the three media outlets you choose to insult are the same that the Russian RT journalist picked out too. Funny coincidence that. A lot of people talking about that journo and quoting her and her videos, as well as RT content in general this last year... I wonder why?
Newsflash: He's a moron. More at 11Someone needs to moderate Trumps tweets, it is embarrassing.
'Unpresidented' wtf.
no one is championing TrumpHilary has gone. She has always been irrelevant in my discussion. The point was that you crap on about establishment corruption and how is over now, when in fact trump has an incredibly establishment heavy cabinet. you also talked about war mongering, and I mentioned that trumps man is basically the professor of rifles up bums 1.01
So you are not making any argument. You are merely repeating the inane pre election promises of the candidate.
I didn't reference Putin.
Get a grasp. LOL
Someone needs to moderate Trumps tweets, it is embarrassing.
'Unpresidented' wtf.
Donald J. Trump 
Trump conducting foreign policy like a 9 year old. This will be an interesting 4 years![]()
