Marriage equality debate - The plebiscite is on its way. (Cont in Pt 3)

[ieasys00]

You don't know my brother. He's an even bigger pudendum than you are, so you two would get on well. As with you, I wouldn't have anything to do with him, other than an optimistic occasional perusal of the death notices in newspapers.

He has tried quite a few times to connect with you but you are so obstinate and self absorbed he has pretty much given up. Your brother
ísn't the problem - You are !

 

[raskolnikov]

irrespective, male and female is the consistent theme through the bible, despite changes in attitudes towards the details as time advanced

Who cares what the ****ing Bible says? It's irrelevant. It's a fairytale. Wake up to yourself.

 

[ieasys00]

Who cares what the ******* Bible says? It's irrelevant. It's a fairytale. Wake up to yourself.

The Bible is irrelevent but a world without God is? Who cares dude?

 

[Procrastinator35]

Who cares what the ******* Bible says? It's irrelevant. It's a fairytale. Wake up to yourself.

Alot of people still seem to.....It's been the Principle religious book of the Western canon for nigh on 2 millennia now.

 

[skilts]

He has tried quite a few times to connect with you but you are so obstinate and self absorbed he has pretty much given up. Your brother
ísn't the problem - You are !

You are clinically unsound. Get help.

 

[ieasys00]

You are clinically unsound. Get help.

No wonder you hate Christmas.

 

[GTroit]

I didn't draw that conclusion. But it's typical of the yes side to misrepresent the opposing argument. What I'm saying is that the assumption that the higher rates of mental illness, suicide and domestic violence are wholly due to societal pressure could be incorrect - and counter-productive. There's no clear evidence for it.

1. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1943-278X.2000.tb01074.x/full - on social acceptance and suicide, generally.

2. http://psycnet.apa.org/record/2003-07329-002 - on social acceptance, generally, and the dangerous attitudes towards life a lack thereof instill

3. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5178031/ - particular to transgender individuals, but the premise remains the same

4. bw0258-lgbti-mental-health-and-suicide-2013-2nd-edition.pdf - evidence against your claim

5. https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www...ance-suicide-rates-in-the-lgbtq-community?amp

 

[Goldenblue]

You know he says that so you shut up, right? Secretly he cries inside that he raised a pozzed son like you who believes that age and experience is second to being young and 6 months into a liberal arts degree.

Hahaha you ****wit

You have no clue who I am nor any idea on what the **** you are talking about.

And seeing that you are a Trump supporter, it's easy to work out that you are a mindless, angry homophobic small dicked idiot who has a massive chip on his shoulder because you really are frightened inside about what the real world is about and can not comprehend it because you are an intellectual pygmy.

Enjoy being frightened little boy. From this point you are not worth toying with, you are simply a piece of filth. campaigner.

Ignored.

 

[Goldenblue]

No wonder you hate Christmas.

This campaigner must be Maggie Court.

 

[Dry Rot]

Anyone else see that silly old ex Woolies turd Roger Corbett on the 7.30 Report mumbling his way through an incoherent NO argument?
Bible.....tradition....procreation....black men are not white men....

Fair enough Roger, I'm on board.

Over the next week, let's round up all gay couples and straight de facto couples and take their children away.

It's not right that these two groups of indecent and immoral folk should be screwing up their children.

 

[Maggie5]

You are clinically unsound. Get help.

Ignore him, wannabe troll.

 

[phantom13]

If the pretty little athiests don't think life is meaningless then they are cowards.

... Right.

 

[cartwright]

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-19/qanda-audience-member-makes-ssm-speech/8958194

This is what the no campaigners are really saying.

This is reality for a lot of people, and why the government should have actually governed and amended the marriage act.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Saying I want to deny you a basic right yet I don't look down on you is one of the dopiest arguments of all time. It will be viewed as a national embarrassment in 50 years, although it already is. It's not a legitimate opinion.

 

[Gough]

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-19/qanda-audience-member-makes-ssm-speech/8958194

This is what the no campaigners are really saying.

This is reality for a lot of people, and why the government should have actually governed and amended the marriage act.

At the same time, it won't be very long before Sukkar's opinion on marriage won't matter, so he can stick it up his arse.

 

[HairyO]

Saying I want to deny you a basic right yet I don't look down on you is one of the dopiest arguments of all time. It will be viewed as a national embarrassment in 50 years, although it already is. It's not a legitimate opinion.

Which is more of a basic right - relabelling a civil union, or having free speech?

 

[Gough]

This whole campaign has been very robust with absolutely nobody's free speech being impinged. This argument is ridiculous.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Which is more of a basic right - relabelling a civil union, or having free speech?

Enough with the martyrdom.

You have people skywriting your idiotic arguments.

 

[HairyO]

Enough with the martyrdom.

You have people skywriting your idiotic arguments.

Cant answer the question. Or wont?

Im voting yes BTW. You have to rethink your insults now.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Enough with the martyrdom.

You have people skywriting your idiotic arguments.

Seems to me that the only people who are afraid of free speech, are the War-Hawks in the Pentagon.

 

[DemonTim]

Cant answer the question. Or wont?

Im voting yes BTW. You have to rethink your insults now.

Who has lost free speech?

What did free speech have to do with his post?

 

[Ice-Wolf]

It's not right that these two groups of indecent and immoral folk should be screwing up their children.

Yeah that's the job of Religious clergy

 

[Sainteric]

You know that religion neither invented marriage nor owns it, right?

You keep saying that without proof as if its fact when of course its not. You also ignore 1000s of years of history and multiple arguments against.

A good article from a rabbi, its not about equality its about redefining what marriage is. One of the better argued no cases.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/as-an...-not-a-vote-against-love-20170916-gyiw0s.html

 

[Sainteric]

Marriage in the end is a civil contract.

Every wedding has the celebrant, minister or whatever silly hat wearing person who runs the show, have the Happy couple & witnesses sign legal documents. The wedding is NOT legal until those documents are signed, witnessed & lodged at the appropriate Government registry. The show in a church wedding, or anywhere else, means NOTHING in law. Its all about the civil contract signed by the participants & those being registered.

The brain damaged lobby voting no simply miss the whole point & are happy to 'mystify' the whole affair to suit their own hateful agenda.

God save their vicious & damaged souls.

Not really it only been a civil matter for the last 5 minutes and clergy going through with the ceremony is part of that civil contract.

 

[JackOutback]

You keep saying that without proof as if its fact when of course its not. You also ignore 1000s of years of history and multiple arguments against.

A good article from a rabbi, its not about equality its about redefining what marriage is. One of the better argued no cases.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/as-an...-not-a-vote-against-love-20170916-gyiw0s.html

Religion is at best a couple thousand years old. Marriages goes back much further. I'm no scholar but I've done a little research. The information is readily available.

Unless you're a bible literalist and think the world is 6000 years old. Then we're at an impasse.