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When will Stringer officially nominate? Could it be as early as today?
Recruiting Trade & Free Agency IV - hypotheticals etc. (Continued in Part V)
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They will make it I just feel Kennedy will be the better player out of the lot, Laverde maybe
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I managed to get a transcript of the chat Dyson had with Jake yesty
hey knackerbags, how tricks?
not bad shagger, you?
yeh not bad tiger. Wanna come over nek year for a kick?
yeh nah, how is it over there?
yeh its all good m8, woosh is a cruisey knacker - good bunch of lads, no beverage....
ay? no beers ?
nah knackers, no bevo - you know.. old mate
oh yeh, cool - count me in
no worries - catch ya then
no worries ,sweet.
hey knackerbags, how tricks?
not bad shagger, you?
yeh not bad tiger. Wanna come over nek year for a kick?
yeh nah, how is it over there?
yeh its all good m8, woosh is a cruisey knacker - good bunch of lads, no beverage....
ay? no beers ?
nah knackers, no bevo - you know.. old mate
oh yeh, cool - count me in
no worries - catch ya then
no worries ,sweet.
Love it
Killer_Mike
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I'm glad the club is looking at running players. We have enough big mids.
He will spiel about he is certain it's Geelong, but we are lurking in the wings...
Please direct me to all our big inside mids
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he was all set on geelong but essendon have come hard late - with an offer too good to refuse
Friday I think was reported by the end of the week.
His VFL form is as good as Howlett and Bird. I suppose that the difference is that Miles has shown the ability to consistently get 30 in the AFL.
I don't see any upside whatsoever. He can play but to me I'd prefer not to think of life with Miles as a best 22 player because it would mean that we've got players who our planning has been pinned on struggling big time.
Langford could not set the world on fire and still get to the level of Miles next year.
Killer_Mike
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Heppell, Parish, Langford, Laverde, Begley, Mutch, Myers and Clarke.
The major knock on Gaff is that he goes missing when the going gets tough. Doesn't do anywhere near as much grunt work as we need in our side.
Taking into account what he'll cost, I hope we don't even consider him. He doesn't address a need for us.
Heppell: Hardly a big contested mid
Parish: not big
Langford: not contested yet unsure if he will be that type
Laverde: Unproven as a mid
Begley: Unproven as a mid
Mutch: Will play a mix of both
Myers: Old and will be a fringe player soon
Clarke: He fits the bill
So yeah at this stage as a big contested inside mid only Myers id play ahead and if we got Kennedy id prefer we play him ahead of Myers. Id like su to play Laverde as an inside mid but until I see it he is a forward.
Killer_Mike
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It's not unusual for outside players to go missing. If the inside players are getting beaten then outside players have little chance of getting their hands on the ball.
I wouldn't give up two first rounders. i'm not sure who's suggesting he's worth that but it's ridiculous.
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Thing is, three of those five were recruited as forwards. While we all hope they can evolve into big-bodied mids (and Begley showed a few promising signs in the middle late this year) all would require an evolution to their game to do so.
Kennedy has always been, and has continued to develop as, a big bodied mid. If you'd want to be putting money on where our contested possessions and centre clearances are coming from in 3 years time, it'd be safer putting them on him rather than the more speculative development of a Langford or Laverde.
Killer_Mike
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Why do they need to be big to be contested?
There are plenty of very good contested players that are small. And conversely there are plenty of bigger guys that aren't as contested.
People are just infatuated with size in here.
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Killer_Mike
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Dodoro and Woosha both believe those guys are mids and were recruited as such.
Why recruit guys and then give up on them before they have even turned 21.
Bolded in black not really big bodied mids.
Bolded in red haven't proven anything as a big inside mid at AFL level. Clarke is in his first year and Langford hasn't been tested out at AFL level. Still questions on his hardness and commitment at contests.
Bolded in blue haven't played as inside mids. We really don't know what we'll get from them or if they have the tank to play as an inside mid.
Underlined (Myers) isn't reliable.
That really leaves only Heppell, who isn't exactly imposing. We need a Jobe replacement.
Oh Howard! You funny man you.
You don't sign Kennedy because he's going to be a top 20 player in the comp. He's a safe bet for an inside mid who has a good engine.
He's also probably got a full season in him next year unlike Mutch and Begley and we need it.
Fast forward to this time next year by which time we'll know how good the next generation of midfielders is and there would be no overwhelming urge to sign Kennedy.
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It's not a matter of giving up on them. I'd be stoked if they develop as hoped. But it'd make sense to have a plan b, and Kennedy is both available and probably at unders. He's had a few years of good development already put into him, knows how to get the pill, and provides as another building block to a midfield in need of repair.
If Langford and Laverde don't develop into inside players, they still might end up best 22 out on a wing or on a HFF - but that doesn't solve our most glaring problem, which is getting the pill out of the middle in the first place.
Killer_Mike
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Killer_Mike
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When will people recognize that we have other issues as well?
Did it ever occur to you that the club just may not want that type of player or even rate Kennedy?
According to people like you we have a pressing need for it, currency to get the trade done and plenty of $$$ to lure him.
Yet, we aren't going after him!
Dangerfield: 189cm
Martin: 188cm
Fyfe: 190cm
Bontempelli: 193cm
Cripps: 195cm
J.Kennedy: 188cm
Ward: 187cm
Oliver: 187cm
Ross: 187cm
B.Crouch: 187cm
Wines: 190cm
Look at the top 8 teams (Bolded) this year and every team had atleast 1 big contested mid that's a star, Priddis has retired for Eagles but he was one. You need atleast 1 of these types to compete, I couldn't think of a single player on our list that could go toe to toe with someone like J.Kennedy.
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