List Mgmt. Trade & F.A. 2017 (if a scenario sounds wrong - read on before posting)

[Apex36]

Greenwood & pick 6 for Schache and pick 14?

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[Sidebysidey]

Some dude on twitter replying to Brett Anderson saying we've offered pick 6 and next year's first for Lever.... Madness if true.

Well thank god it's just the dude

 

[ThePhantom777]

Would you rather Schache with a downgraded round 1 pick or Lever for two round 1 picks... I know what I prefer! Besides the Ramsay to Fremantle rumour is there anyone else on the way out of Pie land?

 

[Quicky]

David Noble footy manager at Brisbane saying they're looking for inside mids on trade radio. Levi Greenwood...

Greenwood and 36 for 18. That would guarantee us Balta and Petty and free up cap space for Lynch next year. It gives Brisbane a midfielder and means they can spend a later pick on Ballenden instead of the 18 they'd be forced to.

 

[TradeDraft]

We cant trade next years first anyway can we? Otherwise that will be 4 years in a row without using a 1st round draft pick.

I really hope these rumours arent true, we do not need another intercept player.

Well Cats got around it by Asking the AFL to be allowed to do it.

With Eddie wanting us to make Finals next season. I would put nothing past us this Trade Period even IF it's very Stupid

 

[SpongePie]

Melbourne will be Offering a Better Trade then That

Agreed. Not expecting that to be serious.

 

[Hardas]

Some dude on twitter replying to Brett Anderson saying we've offered pick 6 and next year's first for Lever.... Madness if true.

Christ...

 

[DaVe86]

I think if we want Lever we are well placed.

If it was purely pick 6 for Lever I'd be relatively comfortable. In my opinion, he is a KPP. He is good height, still has filling out to do and a huge leap. I think he projects as a high quality full back, with a fair bit of offensive power as well.

We could trade pick 6 for 12 + 18 and give Adelaide the 2 picks they want. In essence for us, it would be Pick 6 for Lever.

Otherwise, I think they'd consider 12 + Broomhead + Aish. Which would still leave us 18 and therefore a first round pick (albeit late).

My issue with it all is that the reported price is 850K on a 4-5 year contract. That's simply too much for a full back. I reckon only Rance and Talia are worth that much in the whole comp, and Lever is there yet.

If his contract price was more around 650K, then I'd be prepared to offer pick 6. He is still very young and a safer prospect than an untried kid. But he isn't worth 850K

 

[unplugged]

Some dude on twitter replying to Brett Anderson saying we've offered pick 6 and next year's first for Lever.... Madness if true.

Are we getting Rory Laird as well?

 

[whiskeytown]

David Noble footy manager at Brisbane saying they're looking for inside mids on trade radio. Levi Greenwood...

Rather than Greenwood.... they'll likely target free agent Josh Thomas.... and we will get squat in return

 

[Gone Critical]

Considering Rance will go down as one of the all time greats I think that's being a bit optimistic. My view is that Lever's a smart footballer but lacks the athleticism to get anywhere Rance's level as a player. In the unlikely event either gets near that level my money would be on Balta fwiw who is actually pretty similar now to what Race was when he started. Obviously a lot has to go right in his development as a footballer but athletically he has the traits to be a brilliant 1v1 and rebounding defending.

Yes its optimistic but we approach trading for stars using high end draft picks from that basis. I said approach him not reach him. As the model players that he reminds me a bit of I would say the Rance, Clement, Doull as the best top end examples. Doull like is a massive compliment as he eclipses the other two but Lever has some of those qualities. I would see him as a likely long term A grade tall backman , versatile enough to play on a number of different types, who reminds me of the 3 players I mentioned without needing to reach their absolute levels.

 

[Stoods]

Well Cats got around it by Asking the AFL to be allowed to do it.

With Eddie wanting us to make Finals next season. I would put nothing past us this Trade Period even IF it's very Stupid

If it ends uo costing us 2 first rounders we may benefit in the short term, but long term we will be in trouble.

 

[neilk]

Greenwood & pick 6 for Schache and pick 14?

Josh Thomas possibly too?
Edit-unless he’s a free agent.

 

[SpongePie]

What would Sloan be worth, $ wise? 700k?

 

[TradeDraft]

I think if we want Lever we are well placed.

If it was purely pick 6 for Lever I'd be relatively comfortable. In my opinion, he is a KPP. He is good height, still has filling out to do and a huge leap. I think he projects as a high quality full back, with a fair bit of offensive power as well.

We could trade pick 6 for 12 + 18 and give Adelaide the 2 picks they want. In essence for us, it would be Pick 6 for Lever.

Otherwise, I think they'd consider 12 + Broomhead + Aish. Which would still leave us 18 and therefore a first round pick (albeit late).

My issue with it all is that the reported price is 850K on a 4-5 year contract. That's simply too much for a full back. I reckon only Rance and Talia are worth that much in the whole comp, and Lever is there yet.

If his contract price was more around 650K, then I'd be prepared to offer pick 6. He is still very young and a safer prospect than an untried kid. But he isn't worth 850K

I would bloody Hope IF we do Trade our 2 1st Rounders we get a Top 20 Pick Back

 

[jmac70]

Well thank god it's just the dude

I heard that The Dude is going to be Bucks' new mentor.

 

[DaVe86]

David Noble footy manager at Brisbane saying they're looking for inside mids on trade radio. Levi Greenwood...

I definitely think Greenwood should be on the table. Very hard to squeeze him into the 22 at the moment. His only role would be as a pure tagger, but I think Adams could make-shift in this role if need be.

If we could get a 2nd rounder that would be nice. Brisbane have a few by memory.

 

[TradeDraft]

If it ends uo costing us 2 first rounders we may benefit in the short term, but long term we will be in trouble.

I agree. With Lever we might be better but hurt us feeling Holes on our List that be still there

 

[TW Sherrin]

settle down everyone. the pies are making sure Melbourne pay overs. they thought they'd get him for a 1st and 2nd. it'll have to be 2 firsts now.

 

[Jonno94]

How about,

Collingwood lose Pick 6 and Greenwood/JT, get Schache and Saad
Gold Coast lose Saad, get Pick 18
Brisbane lose pick 18 and Schache, get Pick 6 and Greenwood/JT

 

[SpongePie]

Greenwood and 36 for 18. That would guarantee us Balta and Petty and free up cap space for Lynch next year. It gives Brisbane a midfielder and means they can spend a later pick on Ballenden instead of the 18 they'd be forced to.

I like it!

Possible alternate plan (I like yours better, as I like the idea of going to the draft, but for the sake of conversation)...
Greenwood + 36 for 18 from Bris
6 + 18 for Lever
or 6 + Broomhead for Lever, go to draft with 18.

I'm comparing with the Beams trade. He was 5 + 25 + Crisp. Lever surely is not worth as much in a trade as Beams. So he would be worth 6 + 18 or 6 + good young player. Thoughts?

 

[Schraderbrau]

Yes its optimistic but we approach trading for stars using high end draft picks from that basis. I said approach him not reach him. As the model players that he reminds me a bit of I would say the Rance, Clement, Doull as the best top end examples. Doull like is a massive compliment as he eclipses the other two but Lever has some of those qualities. I would see him as a likely long term A grade tall backman , versatile enough to play on a number of different types, who reminds me of the 3 players I mentioned without needing to reach their absolute levels.

I think we see see him differently as a player. I think he's got a few problems 1v1 and it would be a liability to have him playing on either quality key or small forwards. He just doesn't have the athleticism to go with the best players imo. + playing him on them diminishes the big strength of his game which is intercepting and rebounding.

 

[GreekLunatic]

Please God not 2 first round picks for lever he ain't worth that

 

[jimmy35]

Think the answer from me is Lever looks likely to approach Rance like effectiveness when in his prime.

I'm thinking this as well. He's certainly started out his career better than Rance.

 

[Old Spice]

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That's what you'd be betting on: 25 - 30 yo Lever.

Not for me. I'd be happy with what he's producing right now, the rest is sugar. The guy is being maligned because he's ahead of the development curve, which is a little perverse.