Recruiting Trade & Free Agency V

[JDavey]

Dodoro has to get this done. If we have three guys nominate us and only get 1 or 2 of them then players will not nominate us in the future as they wont have confidence that deals will get done.

Suck it up Dodoro, make it happen and stop clinging to draft picks. Look at what each of Hawthorn, Sydney and Geelong did from 2007-now. They get their man, and if they have to pay slight overs so be it.

We've got more coming in then we have available to trade in picks, Jackets has to find a way to get all these done without selling our picks in next years supposed 'mega draft' - if you gave 11 to Bulldogs for Stringer, 28 + something else for Smith, then how do you get Saad?

Easy to say just 'get it done' but it doesn't work that way in practice given that we're trying to acquire players with value of 1x late first and 2x early second with only 1 mid-first and 1 mid-second pick.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Dodoro has to get this done. If we have three guys nominate us and only get 1 or 2 of them then players will not nominate us in the future as they wont have confidence that deals will get done.

Suck it up Dodoro, make it happen and stop clinging to draft picks. Look at what each of Hawthorn, Sydney and Geelong did from 2007-now. They get their man, and if they have to pay slight overs so be it.

We are just making it hard for ourselfs by refusing to trade next years picks.

 

[Fridge16]

I'm in the same boat as you.

Would you still do it if say GWS asked for our future 2nd or 3rd (not both one or the other) in addition to 22?

I think we would be more likely to throw steak knives (Colyer or a 3rd rounder) to GC to get their pick 19 instead of 22. 19 would satisfy GWS.

 

[TheGrizz]

We've got more coming in then we have available to trade in picks, Jackets has to find a way to get all these done without selling our picks in next years supposed 'mega draft' - if you gave 11 to Bulldogs for Stringer, 28 + something else for Smith, then how do you get Saad?

Easy to say just 'get it done' but it doesn't work that way in practice given that we're trying to acquire players with value of 1x late first and 2x early second with only 1 mid-first and 1 mid-second pick.

I was referring to trading next year's as well if need be. draft picks are so speculative and we already have taken 8 guys in the first 2 rounds over the last 3 years. The age group we are lacking is that 23-26 bracket which, suprise, are the 3 guys we are targeting, of which 2 of them were top 10 picks anywho. Sacrifice this year and next year if need be.

Saad +19 for 11 + 2018 3rd (for academy next year)
then
Stringer for 19
then
Smith for 2018 2nd + pick 28 (two 2nds should make them happy)

 

[WEEVZ]

We are just making it hard for ourselfs by refusing to trade next years picks.

Wouldn't say we've ruled out moving out next years 2nd rounder, but definitely need to hold onto next years 1st.

 

[Mercurial89]

We are just making it hard for ourselfs by refusing to trade next years picks.

We are sticking to a strategy we have.
If we bent on day 3 of the trade period and traded out our picks for next year just so we could get it done quickly, throwing away our plans, is that the type of thing we want going forward? a group that cant stick to plans? or does it say the plan was not feasible to begin with?

Ill pose you this, in the rush to throw away picks both this year and next year, just to get these deals done, would you still be so quick if it cost us a shot at say a Tom lynch next year?

 

[Runk]

Suns say no to that

I say 'let's wait & see what happens.'

 

[Gumby2Hurley]

If we're unable to get 19 from the suns maybe 11 + 28 for Saad, 22 and 24?

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

We are sticking to a strategy we have.
If we bent on day 3 of the trade period and traded out our picks for next year just so we could get it done quickly, throwing away our plans, is that the type of thing we want going forward? a group that cant stick to plans? or does it say the plan was not feasible to begin with?

Ill pose you this, in the rush to throw away picks both this year and next year, just to get these deals done, would you still be so quick if it cost us a shot at say a Tom lynch next year?

Just can’t see us landing all 3 without trading future picks.

 

[DaniFletch]

If we're unable to get 19 from the suns maybe 11 + 28 for Saad, 22 and 24?

Definitely would've been thought about.

EDIT; Then 24 for Smith and 22 + future 2nd for Stringer?

 

[Milanista28]

I desperately hope we trade our 2018 1st rounder I hate that draft already especially the kid we would take.

 

[Howard Moon]

so........

how long til the old chestnut gets wheeled out?

how long til someone is walking to the psd?

can they bluff old mate smith past 11 clubs?

I heard his knees are stuffed, STUFFED!

 

[Gumby2Hurley]

so........

how long til the old chestnut gets wheeled out?

how long til someone is walking to the psd?

can they bluff old mate smith past 11 clubs?

I heard his knees are stuffed, STUFFED!

stkilda board think we did it with Merrett and tigers think we did it with heppd. essendon mafia can do anything it likes

 

[Beerfish]

I'm hoping Stringer stays at the dogs now. Just get Saad and Smith. Should be easy without the unnecessary distraction of the dogs and their shenanigans.

 

[Walesy]

He was a top 10 draft pick, and is comfortably between 6 and 10 of his draft year in terms of quality

Sounds like you're describing Stringer there

 

[Fridge16]

The whole “we look bad if we get three players to nominate us then don’t get them” theory is flawed in the case of Stringer as the whole footy world knows the Dogs are being unreasonable, not us.

Get Smith and Saad early and we shake the “hard to deal with” tag and the pressure builds on the dogs.

 

[boncer34]

Dodoro has to get this done. If we have three guys nominate us and only get 1 or 2 of them then players will not nominate us in the future as they wont have confidence that deals will get done.

Suck it up Dodoro, make it happen and stop clinging to draft picks. Look at what each of Hawthorn, Sydney and Geelong did from 2007-now. They get their man, and if they have to pay slight overs so be it.

Lulz

 

[Doss]

I desperately hope we trade our 2018 1st rounder I hate that draft already especially the kid we would take.

I may be missing some sarcasm here, but how exactly does one hate a draft a year out and the kid whose identity we don't know yet, already?

 

[Alfred E Neuman]

Pick 6 for Prestia isn't overs? Disagree, even this year he was underwhelming.

At least on BF, I think picks are perennially over rated compared to players.

I think if you have a player in hand who you are confident will play more than 120 games for you, he’s worth a top 10 Pick. If you can get him for anything less, that’s a bonus.

Look at the average no of games played by top 10 draft draft picks. Picks 1-3 average between 120 and 150 games and then it falls away to about an average of about 90 games between picks 4 and 18.

Draft picks beyond the first 18 are even more a crap shoot.

TLDR: while I don’t think Stringer is exactly what we need, all things considered (his sex life, gambling etc. etc.) If we think he’s going to give us 100 games or more, 11 is not an unfair ask. Everything else about the situation - I.e. contracted, dogs pushed him etc. is white noise.

 

[efcboy]

Pick 11 for saad & 20.
Pick 20 for stringer - take it or leave it dogs.
Pick 28 for smith.

These deal are reasonable.

If we want to get back into the draft then see if the right deal presents for Francis.

Next years draft is much better so I'd rather keep our future picks.

 

[efcboy]

Probably closest to a deal there?

We want 19 and Saad in exchange for 11 they want to offer22 and Saad.

At least that’s how I understood it.

Pick 19 is now 20 with the Rockliff compo pick before it.

 

[Snake Charmer]

We are not going to any of the 3 are we

Classic B4L <3

 

[Beerfish]

I may be missing some sarcasm here, but how exactly does one hate a draft a year out and the kid whose identity we don't know yet, already?

You're missing some sarcasm there.

 

[JayJ20]

The whole “we look bad if we get three players to nominate us then don’t get them” theory is flawed in the case of Stringer as the whole footy world knows the Dogs are being unreasonable, not us.

Get Smith and Saad early and we shake the “hard to deal with” tag and the pressure builds on the dogs.

That's what I'm hoping for. At least get those two deals done quickly so that we can focus on Stringer.
Saad and Smith, whilst they have nominated us, might not be too fussed with where they end up. Nominating a club isn't binding.

Stringer really only has us as a suitor (Geelong don't have the currency). We can afford to delay that while we work things out with Bulldogs.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Suns say no to that

Suns have their first rounder and 4 2nds. Pick 64 is of NO consequence to them at all.

They will fill all their list spots well before the 4th round.

Suns have to be bluffing. We got 28 for Hibberd who at that stage had done more than Saad. Pick 64 makes 28 closer to 25