Hawthorn - 20 flags by 2050

[citizen-erased]

Exactly. Nearly 20 years ago. Brownlow will be won this year by someone who polled well in any of the last few years.

Ablett a damn good chance.
A light duties 2017 and a shot to finish top 4 instead of bottom 4

 

[cryptor]

Ablett a damn good chance.
A light duties 2017 and a shot to finish top 4 instead of bottom 4

Selwood and Dangerfield both poll so strongly though. I'd be surprised if he'd be able to get enough of the 3 vote games with those two there.

 

[Gralin]

Selwood and Dangerfield both poll so strongly though. I'd be surprised if he'd be able to get enough of the 3 vote games with those two there.

we get to find out who the real favorite is

 

[cryptor]

we get to find out who the real favorite is

Duncan

 

[Rushed_Behind]

what about 3 in a row instead of 3 over 5?

3 in 5 better as 3-peats are more common.

 

[Rushed_Behind]

2017 was the best thing that could’ve happened for Hawthorn.

 

[cryptor]

3 in 5 better as 3-peats are more common.

False. We got multiple ‘3 in 5’s’ recently...
2011-2015, 2012-2016, 2013-2017

3x 3 in 5 > 1x 3 in 5

 

[Rooboys Rool]

IMO Hawthorn achieving 20 flags by 2050 is very unlikely. This whole 13 flags in the last 50 years, or whatever it is, is a nonsense when trying to predict the next 33 years.

The majority of those flags where when the teams with the best zones, in particular country zones, won everything. In the last 23 years of the VFL, just 5 teams won the flag - Hawks & Blues x 7 each; Richmond x 5 and North & Essendon x 2 each.

Since the draft has taken over as the major influence on success, so ~25 years, Hawthorn has had one period of success. That's a better indicator of what might come, especially in a now 18 team competition.

Between now and 2050 there's time for nearly 2 flags each, but it wouldn't surprise to Hawthorn do better than that. Maybe 3 or 4. But 7? Na.

Still, better to aim high.

 

[Hawkk]

IMO Hawthorn achieving 20 flags by 2050 is very unlikely. This whole 13 flags in the last 50 years, or whatever it is, is a nonsense when trying to predict the next 33 years.

The majority of those flags where when the teams with the best zones, in particular country zones, won everything. In the last 23 years of the VFL, just 5 teams won the flag - Hawks & Blues x 7 each; Richmond x 5 and North & Essendon x 2 each.

Since the draft has taken over as the major influence on success, so ~25 years, Hawthorn has had one period of success. That's a better indicator of what might come, especially in a now 18 team competition.

Between now and 2050 there's time for nearly 2 flags each, but it wouldn't surprise to Hawthorn do better than that. Maybe 3 or 4. But 7? Na.

Still, better to aim high.

So that’s 4 flags over a 25 year period (since 1993) or 5 over a 27 year period (since 1991)

5 or 6 flags instead of 7 is much for muchness

 

[Rooboys Rool]

So that’s 4 flags over a 25 year period (since 1993) or 5 over a 27 year period (since 1991)

5 or 6 flags instead of 7 is much for muchness

Yeah the point was more zone influence vs draft influence. The 91 flag was the former.

Not sure that I agree either that there's not much difference between 5 flags and 7 flags in a set time period.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Geelong were never any match for Hawthorn in this poll, it seems.

 

[maskmcgee]

If the Hawks win 20 of the next 32 flags the league will be a complete joke.

 

[Gralin]

If the Hawks win 20 of the next 32 flags the league will be a complete joke.

I mean I'd like that but Kennett was saying win another 7 flags to get the club total to 20

 

[TheFourPillars]

I mean I'd like that but Kennett was saying win another 7 flags to get the club total to 20

Really that's a bummer I preferred to interpret it like what the other guy said

 

[Deep]

Geelong were never any match for Hawthorn in this poll, it seems.

I bet you more than half of the votes for us are by our fans. I voted Hawthorn just like I did in the “First to 17 premierships” thread. Best ran club in the history of this country.

 

[Deep]

If the Hawks win 20 of the next 32 flags the league will be a complete joke.

at that point just change the name to hfl and rename the other teams street names around there

 

[threesixpio]

If the Hawks win 20 of the next 32 flags the league will be a complete joke.

I would be laughing all the way to the happiness bank.

Oops - I already am

 

[Gavin Excell]

I note Hawthorn threads dominating bigfooty off season with this one and the accident of history thread.

Perhaps we shoot for a third - the old favourite that guarantees foam at the mouth responses- Are the Hawks a big 4 club

 

[TheFourPillars]

I note Hawthorn threads dominating bigfooty off season with this one and the accident of history thread.

Perhaps we shoot for a third - the old favourite that guarantees foam at the mouth responses- Are the Hawks a big 4 club

Che pasa?

 

[Roddy]

I note Hawthorn threads dominating bigfooty off season with this one and the accident of history thread.

Perhaps we shoot for a third - the old favourite that guarantees foam at the mouth responses- Are the Hawks a big 4 club

There’s a feeling that the ‘big 4’ is based purely on crowds. If that’s the definition, then absolutely not.

I feel it should be based on an overall picture, a combination of crowds, membership, on field success and off-field financial strength. If that’s the case, we’re still not ‘big 4’. We are ‘big 1’.

 

[Gavin Excell]

There’s a feeling that the ‘big 4’ is based purely on crowds. If that’s the definition, then absolutely not.

I feel it should be based on an overall picture, a combination of crowds, membership, on field success and off-field financial strength. If that’s the case, we’re still not ‘big 4’. We are ‘big 1’.

Needs some unbiased and unemotional Tiger fan input

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Needs some unbiased and unemotional Tiger fan input

Does not compute.

 

[MrPremiership]

This thread has made my Friday.

I would like to thank the non-Hawthorn supporters the most, because the way they all get headf**ked by anything Hawthorn is fantastic.

 

[Leeda]

This thread has made my Friday.

I would like to thank the non-Hawthorn supporters the most, because the way they all get headf**ked by anything Hawthorn is fantastic.

too queasy or too hard.. recognition of my efforts is gratefully received..

normality will um resume.. oh just when we feel like it..

 

[Bojangles17]

The official position put forward by Jeff Kennett

Thoughts?

I thought the funnier part was 3 flags in next 5y,,, , good luck