Opinion 2018 Non-Crows Discussion - Part 3: Everybody Hurts by R.E.M is our new club theme song

[Mike Smyth]

If Wines was an AFC player he would have left after his 1st contract.

 

[Magus]

Most expensive goal in the league then.

What price do you put on 4 points?

 

[MRB37]

If Wines was an AFC player he would have left after his 1st contract.

We just need to stop recruiting players who have partners already. Danger and now Sloane. It's ridiculous.

 

[Scorpus]

Not surprised at all that Wines signed. Port sign their players and attract them from other clubs. We don't.

 

[MRB37]

What price do you put on 4 points?

Hopefully not $2 million.

 

[hey shorty]

What price do you put on 4 points?

If that's all he does for his time here, that's an expensive 4 points.

 

[relapse]

If Wines was an AFC player he would have left after his 1st contract.

That's because we keep clinging to a failed payment structure.

It may work over in Geelong, but to keep guys in SA you have to pay overs.

We've all known this for a while, but the club seems to have not woken up and realised it.

It's so obvious why we keep middle tier players their whole career while we struggle to keep the top tier players. Middle tier players are clearly being paid way too much and they stay because they're on better money than they would get at most other clubs, unfortunately by doing that we're robbing Peter to pay Paul because we then don't have the salary to spend overs to keep top tier players.

 

[subaru]

99kg mid that no other club wanted

 

[relapse]

99kg mid that no other club wanted

That's ridiculous every club would have been after Wines.

 

[subaru]

That's ridiculous every club would have been after Wines.

Maybe

 

[hey shorty]

That's because we keep clinging to a failed payment structure.

It may work over in Geelong, but to keep guys in SA you have to pay overs.

We've all known this for a while, but the club seems to have not woken up and realised it.

It's so obvious why we keep middle tier players their whole career while we struggle to keep the top tier players. Middle tier players are clearly being paid way too much and they stay because they're on better money than they would get at most other clubs, unfortunately by doing that we're robbing Peter to pay Paul because we then don't have the salary to spend overs to keep top tier players.

We bank on player loyalty.

Player loyalty worked before the salary explosion, but it gets tested when players are offered 15-20% more.

 

[Mr Gui Guojie]

Yeah I'm sure this had nothing to do with his departure....

https://www.fiveaa.com.au/sport/Jarman-Impey-Opens-Up-About-His-Struggle-At-Port-Adelaide

relapse are you still there friend?

 

[dav3]

LOL

Impey was a walk up start to your side and even Hinkley said that he wanted him to stay. Impey went for a better deal at the Hawks

If Port didn't need a player of Impey's ilk then why are Port playing Motlop 650-700k a year ?

Around $500k according to the articles I'm looking at, the Crows were the ones offering over $600k

 

[Elite Crow]

Not surprised at all that Wines signed. Port sign their players and attract them from other clubs. We don't.

Yep, any attempt to hang shit on Port about signing a player is cringeworthy

 

[hey shorty]

Around $500k according to the articles I'm looking at, the Crows were the ones offering over $600k

Not according to the compensation Geelong received.

 

[subaru]

No other club offered him the captaincy I’d be thinking
The one thing they learnt from Shaun Burgoyne defection
I’m glad he’s staying

He’ll plateau the same all Ports good youngsters do

 

[Mr Gui Guojie]

No other club offered him the captaincy I’d be thinking

I’m glad he’s staying

He’ll plateau the same all Ports good youngsters do

Lol oh dear.

 

[MRB37]

We bank on player loyalty.

Player loyalty worked before the salary explosion, but it gets tested when players are offered 15-20% more.

Yep, the new CBA was like real life. We still think it's the 80's and have a fat middle class. It's gonna change where 25-30% of your cap might go to 2-3 players and then you'll have a bunch of guys making the minimum to fill out the list.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Not according to the compensation you received.

You blokes love a good Victorian conspiracy, right?

Gary Ablett wants to return from the Suns to the Cats. Cats and Suns struggling to agree on a trade. AFL realises how bad a look it would be if one of the best players of all time was held to his contract with the Suns against his will, or worse still decided to sit out the last year of his contract. AFL sees an opportunity to give Geelong something to work with, uses their intentionally vague and secret free agent policy to award #19 to Geelong for Motlop. Next minute #19 is traded to the Gold Coast and Ablett is a Cat again.

 

[dav3]

Not according to the compensation Geelong received.

If you're comparing compensation then we must be paying him as much as Sydney are paying Buddy, or you know....... the AFL just make shit up as they go along

 

[Jack is Back]

Port seem to be able to bring in players on reasonable money every year, we lose Dangerfield and cant even afford to keep our players

Yes indeed. That is a major factor in their 5 flags over the last 20 years.

 

[MRB37]

You blokes love a good Victorian conspiracy, right?

Gary Ablett wants to return from the Suns to the Cats. Cats and Suns struggling to agree on a trade. AFL realises how bad a look it would be if one of the best players of all time was held to his contract with the Suns against his will, or worse still decided to sit out the last year of his contract. AFL sees an opportunity to give Geelong something to work with, uses their intentionally vague and secret free agent policy to award #19 to Geelong for Motlop. Next minute #19 is traded to the Gold Coast and Ablett is a Cat again.

Or it could just be as simple as Motlop used the Crows to up your offer the same way Wines would have used Melbourne teams to do the same.

Just like Lever did with us, just like McGovern did too.

 

[chiwigi]

99kg mid that no other club wanted

Hahahaha, really?
Dear lord.

 

[hey shorty]

If you're comparing compensation then we must be paying him as much as Sydney are paying Buddy, or you know....... the AFL just make shit up as they go along

The last bit I do agree with, but I'm still not overly sure Motlop would have earned more money with us.

 

[Magma]

who needs wines when you have david mackay.

right?

right?