The "We must get Tom Lynch at all costs...or maybe not" Thread

[Saintly Viewed]

OK quick heads up guys.
Been talking to my sources in Istanbul and the word is that he is absolutely Collingwood bound.
As you all know his whole family are Collingwood tragics or Collingwood ferals or whatever you want to label us lovely people.
My sources tell me that his father is still pissing himself laughing at the tiger melts when we got Treloar. He has instructed his son and his manager to leak info which would suggest he is 100% going to Richmond. His father not only demands his son goes to Collingwood but wants to do the ultimate troll in the process.
All I can say is....
Respect!!

That’s such a good post that WalterBlaknWhte should copy it and make it his avatar.

That good.

Suspect Ben is too lazy to do that though.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

I think you're are a bad person.
But just to clarify.
Sometimes in some circumstances can mean often.
Like... Sometimes the sun rises. But if you look at it over the long term it actually happens quite often.
My talking crap is actually like a new sunrise.

You just say what needs to be said.

I believed it all.

Turkish lamb is terrific so by extension I don’t doubt the Turkish sauces either.

 

[jackcass]

He doesn’t, but a response of, “if the club want to go down the path of trading me then we’ll have to see what happens” doesn’t really scream “I want to stay”.

It's a bit ambiguous really. Does he mean he won't initiate a trade request but he'd do what's in the best interests of the club if they approached him?

 

[jackcass]

If I may ask I don’t understand the Dunn to be a rookie?

If he’s to remain in the clubs mind for one more year then by all means give him a new one year contract.
Or more years.

If it’s a rookie list decision then you do risk the player being picked by another club.

Also there is no more rookie elevations now anyway, a rookie can just play if required so no need to rookie a senior player and risk losing them.

Finally with Dunn being in the leadership group (and he is a legitimate big voice and respected voice amongst the boys) it would look peculiar to demote such a player.

Signing Dunny to the rookie list, if that's the way we go, is purely a list management process. A logical move given he's unlikely to be available for 1/2 the season. We can agree to pay him essentially what he'd earn on the senior list (like we did with Frost) while freeing up that senior list spot for the draft. Win-win. We retain him, he gets well paid, we have better draft options.

 

[MyManLynch]

It's a bit ambiguous really. Does he mean he won't initiate a trade request but he'd do what's in the best interests of the club if they approached him?

It’s a bit strange, even talking that way...”if the Club wants to trade me”.
Would not most players say “I’m happy at the club & we’ll address a new contract when it’s time to do that”

 

[jackcass]

It’s a bit strange, even talking that way...”if the Club wants to trade me”.
Would not most players say “I’m happy at the club & we’ll address a new contract when it’s time to do that”

That's certainly the more normal spiel.

 

[Apex36]

It's a bit ambiguous really. Does he mean he won't initiate a trade request but he'd do what's in the best interests of the club if they approached him?

I don’t know, but it was all very non-committal. A response of “I have no intention to request a trade” would have meant the same thing with less ambiguity.

 

[legendstatus]

I’m just more curious about how the Nineth9mond forum is becoming a Collingwood M2 forum. It’s like the bazzaro world of Collingwood over there
Bunch of morons infatuated about our injuries???


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[Magpie Monopoly]

The melt if Tom Lynch doesn't go to Richmond is going to be epic.....

They are completely and utterly emotionally invested now. It isn't even about Lynch anymore.

PR nightmare if he goes elsewhere. First Treloar, now Lynch.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Signing Dunny to the rookie list, if that's the way we go, is purely a list management process. A logical move given he's unlikely to be available for 1/2 the season. We can agree to pay him essentially what he'd earn on the senior list (like we did with Frost) while freeing up that senior list spot for the draft. Win-win. We retain him, he gets well paid, we have better draft options.

Unsure it manages the list as such as same salary.

Also unless there is a compelling reason we don’t chop enough players end of season can’t see number of spots as a reason.

And the danger for being picked up by another club.

But my single biggest reason to not do such things is the way it would be treating such a esteemed player.

Be wrong way to go in my view.

 

[jackcass]

Unsure it manages the list as such as same salary.

Also unless there is a compelling reason we don’t chop enough players end of season can’t see number of spots as a reason.

And the danger for being picked up by another club.

But my single biggest reason to not do such things is the way it would be treating such a esteemed player.

Be wrong way to go in my view.

So you see no benefit having the capacity to select a draftee in the 3rd or 4th round of the draft ahead of a later rookie list pick... strange.

Just how many clubs do you think will be queuing up to snavel Dunny if we opt to drop him down to the rookie list? Schade aside, I can't think of too many instances where that's happened.

Not sure how ensuring he has another year at the club in anyway tarnishes his "esteem".

 

[danielnajdek]

I’m just more curious about how the Nineth9mond forum is becoming a Collingwood M2 forum. It’s like the bazzaro world of Collingwood over there
Bunch of morons infatuated about our injuries???


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I've given up reading their threads. It used to be funny but now it's just constant whinging about us. They seem pretty insecure if all they talk about is Collingwood.

 

[sideswipe]

So you see no benefit having the capacity to select a draftee in the 3rd or 4th round of the draft ahead of a later rookie list pick... strange.

Just how many clubs do you think will be queuing up to snavel Dunny if we opt to drop him down to the rookie list? Schade aside, I can't think of too many instances where that's happened.

Not sure how ensuring he has another year at the club in anyway tarnishes his "esteem".

why not use the long term injury list?

 

[MyManLynch]

why not use the long term injury list?

Does that even still exist? Now that all rookies are avail for selection all year..

 

[Baltimore Jack]

why not use the long term injury list?

Goneski

 

[sideswipe]

Goneski

I could be wrong, but it is included in the AFL regs, and the current CBA? And I do feel a little dirty doing this, but I will plow on and note that Sam Docherty is on the long term injury list, according to this?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/injury-list

But I would not want to rely on Carlton doing anything correctly. They could heck up a free lunch.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

I could be wrong, but it is included in the AFL regs, and the current CBA? And I do feel a little dirty doing this, but I will plow on and note that Sam Docherty is on the long term injury list, according to this?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/injury-list

But I would not want to rely on Carlton doing anything correctly. They could **** up a free lunch.

OK thanks for that, you may well be correct, but in effect I don't think it makes any difference as any Rookie listed player can play at anytime

 

[left at home]

I don’t think the rookie list will last to much longer, not point to it now.
Just give every team 46-50 spots on the list

 

[jackcass]

why not use the long term injury list?

As others have stated, the LTI is a bit of a moot point now with rookie promotion no longer required prior to them playing. Dunn is currently 31, will likely turn 32 before he's ready to resume at any level. While on form he would likely have gained an extension for at least 2019 there was never any assurances. Offering him an additional year on the rookie list in no way slights him. It just makes good sense. At a minimum, I hope they ultimately offer KK and Broomy something similar. I'd much rather see them retained on the rookie list than the senior list with the levels of uncertainty about them.

 

[jackcass]

I don’t think the rookie list will last to much longer, not point to it now.
Just give every team 46-50 spots on the list

The fact that rookies still only get an assurance of 1 year contracts as opposed to the mandatory 2 for draftees might still be a factor. There'll also always be Cat B rookies to consider. I'm not sure why people see it as an issue.

 

[sideswipe]

The fact that rookies still only get an assurance of 1 year contracts as opposed to the mandatory 2 for draftees might still be a factor. There'll also always be Cat B rookies to consider. I'm not sure why people see it as an issue.

On further checking Cat B rookie upgrade is the only reason you would use the LTI


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[Apex36]

I don’t think the rookie list will last to much longer, not point to it now.

Aside from lower base payments and the ability to draft on a one year contract instead of two...

 

[ClaytonM]

He is 99% gone.
Destination: 60% Richmond 20% Collingwood 19% Hawthorn 1% Gold Coast

Nb Yes, I completely made up those figures

Only 5% of people admit to making up figures.

 

[MyManLynch]

Only 5% of people admit to making up figures.

Furthermore, 95% of the 5% only use legitimate sources 50% of the time.

 

[left at home]

Aside from lower base payments and the ability to draft on a one year contract instead of two...

True, but they could still do that with the last few spots anyway. But the name l think will disappear.