Training 2019 Training - pics, reports etc

[murphster]

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Zoom in on Ed’s right arm what a freak he is not to mention another great facial expression

 

[murphster]

Who is the bloke on Ed's Shoulder?

Good to see SPS and JSOS with Walsh.

Stockman isn’t it?

 

[Aphrodite]

Nic Newman presser ...


http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2019-01-25/newman-impressed-with-young-talent

 

[jooce8891]

May as well get the gushing out of the way early –

Setterfield: Great hands in close, and ridiculous lateral movement for a 6’3 bloke coming off an ACL. Finds space, keeps his head up and has an uncanny ability to find a target while being pursued by a couple of players. Only joined in just over half the session, but if all goes to plan he’s going to be a very good player. Huge ceiling.

C. Curnow: Ridiculous athleticism, and seems to have trimmed down without losing any of his strength. Has as much ability at ground level as most of our midfielders, and loves engaging early in a contest to eliminate a player in a contested situation. If he wasn’t such a pivotal part of our forward line he could easily play as an inside midfielder. Won just about every 200-metre sprint as well.

McKay – His reading of the play (or possibly his reading of our play) has improved and he’s going to be exceptionally good key forward. Instinctive, strong, persistent… Had a few moments of brilliance breaking through tackles and is very capable at ground level for a big guy. Just looks super comfortable, and I think he’s in for a big year.

Have to echo the sentiments W/R/T JSOS. He needs to be viewed as a long-term project, and developed as an inside midfielder who can float forward if necessary. His conditioning has improved tenfold, with his endurance and strength significantly greater than this time last year. He was never far behind Ed in the 200 metre runs, and looks rejuvenated. Build him up at VFL level, let him get his hands on the ball and then see how he goes matching it on the inside. I wouldn’t worry about his production either. Let him get accustomed to his role, and if he gets 15 meaningful touches, we’re seeing progression. Similar to how Essendon are developing Kyle Langford – will take some time, but the results should be very positive. Going to prove a lot of people wrong I think.

Need to temper the expectations on Walsh IMO. He’s definitely AFL ready, but still an 18-year-old finding his way, and still has a lot to learn. Tried to do too much on occasion and was caught a few times standing still trying to evade. I imagine when he started training some of those tricks he had at junior level would have worked, but after a while his teammates can read what he’s going to do. Not a big issue, and clearly he’ll benefit from some increased strength (that being said he’s bulked up tremendously since the Championships – good god) but something I noticed. Had a few nice moments drifting forward and impacting – kicked a goal and was involved in a few nice passages of play. His kicking was better than I expected, although other outside mids outshined him in match simulation. Coughed it up a few times trying to do too much, but has a considerable amount of poise otherwise. Spent a lot of time talking to Cripps too. (As do many of the players, seeking tips and guidance)

Stocker is genuinely big. Strong in the chest and arms, big legs and wouldn’t look out of place as a starting AFL midfielder. Has obviously spent a heap of time in the gym over the past few years, but didn’t seem as unfit as I imagined. Kept up the pace in the 200-metre runs. Still needs to get leaner, but he looks in reasonable shape. Lovely kick too. Also noticeable how loud he was in the drills – certainly has a self-confidence, and without projecting too much, a healthy ego. Likes to enjoy a bit of banter. Not too sure if he starts Round 1, but he doesn’t look far off AFL conditioning.

Our outside mids all look in ripping knick and Murphy’s form in the match sim just about put to bed any suggestion he should be played as a forward this year. Great composure, looked sharp and made some nice handballs in close. Not really needed inside contested situations, but is a vital piece of our midfield. Still a valuable link-up player, and reads the game as good as any in our team. Fisher has taken another step again and was probably the best in the match sim. Nothing out of the usual for him, but his vision and smarts are so far ahead of most. Waits until the perfect moment to distribute, and has no qualms about running around a player if he seems the opportunity. Has some serious dare.

Also loving the progression of SPS. Had this palpable feeling all eyes were on him whenever he had the ball – even during kicking drills – and he’s also looking trim and fit. Covered some serious ground in the match simulation, and rotated forward (along with Fisher and Walsh) and impacted there, kicking a goal and setting up play across half-forward. Like Fisher, evades easily, and spreads well from the contest. Saw him bring the ball back into the middle a couple of times with well-timed kicks. Weights his handballs perfectly too – there were a few occasions he flicked a looping pass over a player into the path of a teammate.

Dow’s an interesting one. Has an almost preternatural ability to find the ball in the contest, but his endurance still seems way off. Was being encouraged by Stanton during the runs, but seemed to be labouring a bit? Had some nice moments in the match sim, but doesn’t seem to engage as much as he can. Another I’m tempering my expectations on, but he might have just had an off session.

Weltering looks primed to take the gorilla defender role. Has bulked up again, and took some nice contested marks, albeit against TDK. Not sure if we’re making the most out of him, but it’s a little hard to gauge until we get into the real stuff. His decision-making, as always, was spot on. Nic Newman already looks like an astute acquisition, and will almost certainly play out the season. Looks super fit and his defensive effort was great.

Kennedy was strong in the contest and has also bulked up considerably, Cuningham had a few nice runs through the middle and Gibbons will almost certainly be signed and played. He’s quite nippy and his skills were reasonable. Cottrell didn’t standout, but I wasn’t looking out for him in particular. O’Dwyer has a really nice kick and didn’t look out of place in match sim either. Seems like we’re shoehorning him into a defensive role, which suits him to a tee. Certainly has some speed off the mark, and can roost the ball. Looks a little unsure, and will take some time to adapt, but there’s definitely a role for him long-term. BSOS also looked in good knick and seems a pretty relaxed dude. Belongs out there.

Fasolo (somewhat obviously) and Polson played as the small forwards for the Probables team. Fasolo, as many have mentioned, was dangerous up forward and we’re going to benefit exponentially from his presence down there. Kicked 2 or 3 goals, and runs to good spots. Polson looks massive, with big shoulders and big back. Still seems to struggle to get involved, but did some very good things when he was. Had a couple of nice touches through the middle, and kicked a goal or too. Worked well with Fisher (?) in the contested drills.

The skills were admittedly a little sloppy, possibly due to the wind and general fatigue from the heat, but good intent from the players none-the-less. Was nice to see so much focus on the contested side of our game, and I think the natural development of Kennedy and Cunners - along with Setterfield when he’s integrated - is going to hold us in really good stead. Was also pretty amusing watching Cripps fend off four players at once on a few occasions. Can’t remember a player dominating the stoppages as well as he does. Even Kouta couldn’t do much of what Cripps does in a pack. I’m stating the obvious, but he’s a special talent. I think Kennedy is ready to step-up in a big way too, so he’s not as overburdened as he has been in the past.

Other than that, good in the CFC for putting on ice-poles for almost three hours. No token 1 Zooper Dooper; unlimited icy-poles. Nice touch in the searing heat. Not to mention killer coffees in the Carlton Café.

FIN.

fantastic mate

 

[HARKER]

Funny session that went well beyond the two hours, that the said usual ones have been going.
Funny in that even though there was a lot going on, little really stood out. At least little by way of anything new.
Having said that though, the heat and wind couldn't have helped the situation, along with the fact many weren't involved in what should have been the most interesting part of the day; the full ground match simulation.
No Mcgovern, no Kreuzer, no Plowman, no Marchbank, no Macreadie, no Williamson, no Lang, no Jones except for a bit of a walk around with his hand brace on, no Lang, no Docherty nor Pickett obviously and only a little of Cuningham and just a little Setterfield who walked off after only a few minutes.
Ball spent a lot of time over the line, some movement was OK but little, real quality passages of play. Like I said, it seemed to be going at about 80% to me but only because the guys were somewhat tired/hot already.

Don't really want to rattle off the same names again as the likes of Cripps, Walsh, Fisher, Ed & Charlie Curnow always seem to stand out for one reason or another. Charlie in particular just loves the spotlight. Nothing we don't know.

The drills have been covered, so only go into player observations;

BSilvagni: Brought up his name last few times, but there's definitely something there.
I was particularly impressed with his lateral movement. A key component for a player his size and the position he'll likely take up.
It's ridiculous just how comfortable he looks in any situation....almost blase. Does put in though and given it's his first year, his presence is already a feature.

Phillips again impressed me and not only because he didn't have Krezuer against him.
Other than running, he does a lot of things right. I also want his new ruck coach to teach him to tap to advantage now. get that right and he'll be in serious contention for a starting position.

Really liked some of the things O'Brien did today and not just his kicking.
Vision and cool in traffic struck me more than it has before. seems quite comfortable in himself now. Has belief, I dare say and it shows.

First time so far this year that Stocker left a bit of a mark on me.
It may have something to do in just how much a part of the whole all the young guys seem to be. It's not like it used to be where the class differences were poles apart, any more. These guys have self-belief or maybe just belief from their coaches. Would like to see a bit more in the heavy stuff but that will come.

As has been noted, Jack Silvagni has really clocked his rating up.
Again this week, got quite involved through all drills. maybe we may have been a little too quick to write him off just yet.

Good to see Casboult involved in the back-line just as I wanted him to be.
Certainly leaner than he has been and even the kicking action is wobbly, most of his kicks seemed to hit their mark.
Something to work with and I'd be thrilled should he start in the back-line for the NB's should that be what they're trying to do with him. Makes sense.

Weitering was OK and let's not be too harsh for what we effectively witnessed as simply one quarter of football on a hot and windy day.
There was one thing though that I saw near the end of the day that had me saying to myself; Not again Jacob.

De Koning is fun. I like him and from what we saw last year alone know that we'll have to be patient and allow him another 2 to 3 years to grow into his body properly. I like the fact he hurt his shoulder in marking duels against fellow ruck-men, but wanted to keep going......and did keep going effecting some good spoils along with a couple fo quality marks.

I'll leave it at that and as much action as there was around the ground, I didn't see anything particularly new this week.
Maybe next time around.

 

[murphster]

It is amazing how these blokes with poor endurance manage to improve at AFL level, it is almost as if training at a professional level instead of at a TAC cup level around your other commitments is a real benefit in this area.

I get the feelingno matter what the draft pick swap is we won't lose on the trade.

My gut feel tells me he will be one of the best to come out of this draft, just think he has the drive and the talent and with players like Cripps around him I think he will thrive.

 

[JuddgementDay]

May as well get the gushing out of the way early –

Setterfield: Great hands in close, and ridiculous lateral movement for a 6’3 bloke coming off an ACL. Finds space, keeps his head up and has an uncanny ability to find a target while being pursued by a couple of players. Only joined in just over half the session, but if all goes to plan he’s going to be a very good player. Huge ceiling.

C. Curnow: Ridiculous athleticism, and seems to have trimmed down without losing any of his strength. Has as much ability at ground level as most of our midfielders, and loves engaging early in a contest to eliminate a player in a contested situation. If he wasn’t such a pivotal part of our forward line he could easily play as an inside midfielder. Won just about every 200-metre sprint as well.

McKay – His reading of the play (or possibly his reading of our play) has improved and he’s going to be exceptionally good key forward. Instinctive, strong, persistent… Had a few moments of brilliance breaking through tackles and is very capable at ground level for a big guy. Just looks super comfortable, and I think he’s in for a big year.

Have to echo the sentiments W/R/T JSOS. He needs to be viewed as a long-term project, and developed as an inside midfielder who can float forward if necessary. His conditioning has improved tenfold, with his endurance and strength significantly greater than this time last year. He was never far behind Ed in the 200 metre runs, and looks rejuvenated. Build him up at VFL level, let him get his hands on the ball and then see how he goes matching it on the inside. I wouldn’t worry about his production either. Let him get accustomed to his role, and if he gets 15 meaningful touches, we’re seeing progression. Similar to how Essendon are developing Kyle Langford – will take some time, but the results should be very positive. Going to prove a lot of people wrong I think.

Need to temper the expectations on Walsh IMO. He’s definitely AFL ready, but still an 18-year-old finding his way, and still has a lot to learn. Tried to do too much on occasion and was caught a few times standing still trying to evade. I imagine when he started training some of those tricks he had at junior level would have worked, but after a while his teammates can read what he’s going to do. Not a big issue, and clearly he’ll benefit from some increased strength (that being said he’s bulked up tremendously since the Championships – good god) but something I noticed. Had a few nice moments drifting forward and impacting – kicked a goal and was involved in a few nice passages of play. His kicking was better than I expected, although other outside mids outshined him in match simulation. Coughed it up a few times trying to do too much, but has a considerable amount of poise otherwise. Spent a lot of time talking to Cripps too. (As do many of the players, seeking tips and guidance)

Stocker is genuinely big. Strong in the chest and arms, big legs and wouldn’t look out of place as a starting AFL midfielder. Has obviously spent a heap of time in the gym over the past few years, but didn’t seem as unfit as I imagined. Kept up the pace in the 200-metre runs. Still needs to get leaner, but he looks in reasonable shape. Lovely kick too. Also noticeable how loud he was in the drills – certainly has a self-confidence, and without projecting too much, a healthy ego. Likes to enjoy a bit of banter. Not too sure if he starts Round 1, but he doesn’t look far off AFL conditioning.

Our outside mids all look in ripping knick and Murphy’s form in the match sim just about put to bed any suggestion he should be played as a forward this year. Great composure, looked sharp and made some nice handballs in close. Not really needed inside contested situations, but is a vital piece of our midfield. Still a valuable link-up player, and reads the game as good as any in our team. Fisher has taken another step again and was probably the best in the match sim. Nothing out of the usual for him, but his vision and smarts are so far ahead of most. Waits until the perfect moment to distribute, and has no qualms about running around a player if he seems the opportunity. Has some serious dare.

Also loving the progression of SPS. Had this palpable feeling all eyes were on him whenever he had the ball – even during kicking drills – and he’s also looking trim and fit. Covered some serious ground in the match simulation, and rotated forward (along with Fisher and Walsh) and impacted there, kicking a goal and setting up play across half-forward. Like Fisher, evades easily, and spreads well from the contest. Saw him bring the ball back into the middle a couple of times with well-timed kicks. Weights his handballs perfectly too – there were a few occasions he flicked a looping pass over a player into the path of a teammate.

Dow’s an interesting one. Has an almost preternatural ability to find the ball in the contest, but his endurance still seems way off. Was being encouraged by Stanton during the runs, but seemed to be labouring a bit? Had some nice moments in the match sim, but doesn’t seem to engage as much as he can. Another I’m tempering my expectations on, but he might have just had an off session.

Weltering looks primed to take the gorilla defender role. Has bulked up again, and took some nice contested marks, albeit against TDK. Not sure if we’re making the most out of him, but it’s a little hard to gauge until we get into the real stuff. His decision-making, as always, was spot on. Nic Newman already looks like an astute acquisition, and will almost certainly play out the season. Looks super fit and his defensive effort was great.

Kennedy was strong in the contest and has also bulked up considerably, Cuningham had a few nice runs through the middle and Gibbons will almost certainly be signed and played. He’s quite nippy and his skills were reasonable. Cottrell didn’t standout, but I wasn’t looking out for him in particular. O’Dwyer has a really nice kick and didn’t look out of place in match sim either. Seems like we’re shoehorning him into a defensive role, which suits him to a tee. Certainly has some speed off the mark, and can roost the ball. Looks a little unsure, and will take some time to adapt, but there’s definitely a role for him long-term. BSOS also looked in good knick and seems a pretty relaxed dude. Belongs out there.

Fasolo (somewhat obviously) and Polson played as the small forwards for the Probables team. Fasolo, as many have mentioned, was dangerous up forward and we’re going to benefit exponentially from his presence down there. Kicked 2 or 3 goals, and runs to good spots. Polson looks massive, with big shoulders and big back. Still seems to struggle to get involved, but did some very good things when he was. Had a couple of nice touches through the middle, and kicked a goal or too. Worked well with Fisher (?) in the contested drills.

The skills were admittedly a little sloppy, possibly due to the wind and general fatigue from the heat, but good intent from the players none-the-less. Was nice to see so much focus on the contested side of our game, and I think the natural development of Kennedy and Cunners - along with Setterfield when he’s integrated - is going to hold us in really good stead. Was also pretty amusing watching Cripps fend off four players at once on a few occasions. Can’t remember a player dominating the stoppages as well as he does. Even Kouta couldn’t do much of what Cripps does in a pack. I’m stating the obvious, but he’s a special talent. I think Kennedy is ready to step-up in a big way too, so he’s not as overburdened as he has been in the past.

Other than that, good in the CFC for putting on ice-poles for almost three hours. No token 1 Zooper Dooper; unlimited icy-poles. Nice touch in the searing heat. Not to mention killer coffees in the Carlton Café.

FIN.

Thanks for the awesome report. Feel like I was there watching it
...
How about doing best 22 based on your observations so far?

 

[HARKER]

Need to temper the expectations on Walsh IMO. He’s definitely AFL ready, but still an 18-year-old finding his way, and still has a lot to learn. Tried to do too much on occasion and was caught a few times standing still trying to evade. I imagine when he started training some of those tricks he had at junior level would have worked, but after a while his teammates can read what he’s going to do. Not a big issue, and clearly he’ll benefit from some increased strength (that being said he’s bulked up tremendously since the Championships – good god) but something I noticed. Had a few nice moments drifting forward and impacting – kicked a goal and was involved in a few nice passages of play. His kicking was better than I expected, although other outside mids outshined him in match simulation. Coughed it up a few times trying to do too much, but has a considerable amount of poise otherwise. Spent a lot of time talking to Cripps too. (As do many of the players, seeking tips and guidance)

I saw him get caught twice but only because he didn't have a team-mate where he should have been.
Cripps, Walsh and Fisher have that innate ability to think on the run with ball in hand, in congested situations.

Watched Walsh closely at times and said I wouldn't talk about him, but his football IQ was again well on display.

 

[Aphrodite]

Thanks to all for all the training reports and pics.


Greatly appreciated.

 

[Soapy V]

Love that Russell still made them train hard. Great for Mental toughness. Need to push through when it gets tough. Awesome stuff

 

[La Dispute]

Thanks for the awesome report. Feel like I was there watching it
...
How about doing best 22 based on your observations so far?

Lots of guesswork given how many players were on the sidelines, but based on the 'Probables' team -

FB: Plowman Weitering Newman
HB: Thomas Marchbank Simpson
C: SPS Murphy Walsh
HF: Polson Curnow Fisher
FF: McGovern McKay Fasolo
RR: Kreuzer Cripps Kennedy
INT: E. Curnow Setterfield Dow Cuningham



*Polson to possibly be replaced by Garlett
*Pending Jones' fitness, MC may opt to play 4 tall defenders and push Newman onto a defensive wing

 

[La Dispute]

I saw him get caught twice but only because he didn't have a team-mate where he should have been.
Cripps, Walsh and Fisher have that innate ability to think on the run with ball in hand, in congested situations.

Watched Walsh closely at times and said I wouldn't talk about him, but his football IQ was again well on display.

Not too sure if we're referring to the same scenario. Was caught trying to do too much when he had a teammate on, and opted to cut through the traffic.

He'll certainly learn, and it's definitely a positive he's looking to take risks.

 

[Soapy V]

Setterfield: Great hands in close, and ridiculous lateral movement for a 6’3 bloke coming off an ACL. Finds space, keeps his head up and has an uncanny ability to find a target while being pursued by a couple of players. Only joined in just over half the session, but if all goes to plan he’s going to be a very good player. Huge ceiling.

Stocker is genuinely big. Strong in the chest and arms, big legs and wouldn’t look out of place as a starting AFL midfielder. Has obviously spent a heap of time in the gym over the past few years, but didn’t seem as unfit as I imagined. Kept up the pace in the 200-metre runs. Still needs to get leaner, but he looks in reasonable shape. Lovely kick too. Also noticeable how loud he was in the drills – certainly has a self-confidence, and without projecting too much, a healthy ego. Likes to enjoy a bit of banter. Not too sure if he starts Round 1, but he doesn’t look far off AFL conditioning.

Anyone still missing Shiel?

Maybe we should send this over to the Essendon board

 

[Soapy V]

Anyone see Garlett today. Been great so far this pre season

 

[thylacine60]

May as well get the gushing out of the way early –

Setterfield: Great hands in close, and ridiculous lateral movement for a 6’3 bloke coming off an ACL. Finds space, keeps his head up and has an uncanny ability to find a target while being pursued by a couple of players. Only joined in just over half the session, but if all goes to plan he’s going to be a very good player. Huge ceiling.

C. Curnow: Ridiculous athleticism, and seems to have trimmed down without losing any of his strength. Has as much ability at ground level as most of our midfielders, and loves engaging early in a contest to eliminate a player in a contested situation. If he wasn’t such a pivotal part of our forward line he could easily play as an inside midfielder. Won just about every 200-metre sprint as well.

McKay – His reading of the play (or possibly his reading of our play) has improved and he’s going to be exceptionally good key forward. Instinctive, strong, persistent… Had a few moments of brilliance breaking through tackles and is very capable at ground level for a big guy. Just looks super comfortable, and I think he’s in for a big year.

Have to echo the sentiments W/R/T JSOS. He needs to be viewed as a long-term project, and developed as an inside midfielder who can float forward if necessary. His conditioning has improved tenfold, with his endurance and strength significantly greater than this time last year. He was never far behind Ed in the 200 metre runs, and looks rejuvenated. Build him up at VFL level, let him get his hands on the ball and then see how he goes matching it on the inside. I wouldn’t worry about his production either. Let him get accustomed to his role, and if he gets 15 meaningful touches, we’re seeing progression. Similar to how Essendon are developing Kyle Langford – will take some time, but the results should be very positive. Going to prove a lot of people wrong I think.

Need to temper the expectations on Walsh IMO. He’s definitely AFL ready, but still an 18-year-old finding his way, and still has a lot to learn. Tried to do too much on occasion and was caught a few times standing still trying to evade. I imagine when he started training some of those tricks he had at junior level would have worked, but after a while his teammates can read what he’s going to do. Not a big issue, and clearly he’ll benefit from some increased strength (that being said he’s bulked up tremendously since the Championships – good god) but something I noticed. Had a few nice moments drifting forward and impacting – kicked a goal and was involved in a few nice passages of play. His kicking was better than I expected, although other outside mids outshined him in match simulation. Coughed it up a few times trying to do too much, but has a considerable amount of poise otherwise. Spent a lot of time talking to Cripps too. (As do many of the players, seeking tips and guidance)

Stocker is genuinely big. Strong in the chest and arms, big legs and wouldn’t look out of place as a starting AFL midfielder. Has obviously spent a heap of time in the gym over the past few years, but didn’t seem as unfit as I imagined. Kept up the pace in the 200-metre runs. Still needs to get leaner, but he looks in reasonable shape. Lovely kick too. Also noticeable how loud he was in the drills – certainly has a self-confidence, and without projecting too much, a healthy ego. Likes to enjoy a bit of banter. Not too sure if he starts Round 1, but he doesn’t look far off AFL conditioning.

Our outside mids all look in ripping knick and Murphy’s form in the match sim just about put to bed any suggestion he should be played as a forward this year. Great composure, looked sharp and made some nice handballs in close. Not really needed inside contested situations, but is a vital piece of our midfield. Still a valuable link-up player, and reads the game as good as any in our team. Fisher has taken another step again and was probably the best in the match sim. Nothing out of the usual for him, but his vision and smarts are so far ahead of most. Waits until the perfect moment to distribute, and has no qualms about running around a player if he seems the opportunity. Has some serious dare.

Also loving the progression of SPS. Had this palpable feeling all eyes were on him whenever he had the ball – even during kicking drills – and he’s also looking trim and fit. Covered some serious ground in the match simulation, and rotated forward (along with Fisher and Walsh) and impacted there, kicking a goal and setting up play across half-forward. Like Fisher, evades easily, and spreads well from the contest. Saw him bring the ball back into the middle a couple of times with well-timed kicks. Weights his handballs perfectly too – there were a few occasions he flicked a looping pass over a player into the path of a teammate.

Dow’s an interesting one. Has an almost preternatural ability to find the ball in the contest, but his endurance still seems way off. Was being encouraged by Stanton during the runs, but seemed to be labouring a bit? Had some nice moments in the match sim, but doesn’t seem to engage as much as he can. Another I’m tempering my expectations on, but he might have just had an off session.

Weltering looks primed to take the gorilla defender role. Has bulked up again, and took some nice contested marks, albeit against TDK. Not sure if we’re making the most out of him, but it’s a little hard to gauge until we get into the real stuff. His decision-making, as always, was spot on. Nic Newman already looks like an astute acquisition, and will almost certainly play out the season. Looks super fit and his defensive effort was great.

Kennedy was strong in the contest and has also bulked up considerably, Cuningham had a few nice runs through the middle and Gibbons will almost certainly be signed and played. He’s quite nippy and his skills were reasonable. Cottrell didn’t standout, but I wasn’t looking out for him in particular. O’Dwyer has a really nice kick and didn’t look out of place in match sim either. Seems like we’re shoehorning him into a defensive role, which suits him to a tee. Certainly has some speed off the mark, and can roost the ball. Looks a little unsure, and will take some time to adapt, but there’s definitely a role for him long-term. BSOS also looked in good knick and seems a pretty relaxed dude. Belongs out there.

Fasolo (somewhat obviously) and Polson played as the small forwards for the Probables team. Fasolo, as many have mentioned, was dangerous up forward and we’re going to benefit exponentially from his presence down there. Kicked 2 or 3 goals, and runs to good spots. Polson looks massive, with big shoulders and big back. Still seems to struggle to get involved, but did some very good things when he was. Had a couple of nice touches through the middle, and kicked a goal or too. Worked well with Fisher (?) in the contested drills.

The skills were admittedly a little sloppy, possibly due to the wind and general fatigue from the heat, but good intent from the players none-the-less. Was nice to see so much focus on the contested side of our game, and I think the natural development of Kennedy and Cunners - along with Setterfield when he’s integrated - is going to hold us in really good stead. Was also pretty amusing watching Cripps fend off four players at once on a few occasions. Can’t remember a player dominating the stoppages as well as he does. Even Kouta couldn’t do much of what Cripps does in a pack. I’m stating the obvious, but he’s a special talent. I think Kennedy is ready to step-up in a big way too, so he’s not as overburdened as he has been in the past.

Other than that, good in the CFC for putting on ice-poles for almost three hours. No token 1 Zooper Dooper; unlimited icy-poles. Nice touch in the searing heat. Not to mention killer coffees in the Carlton Café.

FIN.

too good

 

[Carl Tone]

May as well get the gushing out of the way early –

Setterfield: Great hands in close, and ridiculous lateral movement for a 6’3 bloke coming off an ACL. Finds space, keeps his head up and has an uncanny ability to find a target while being pursued by a couple of players. Only joined in just over half the session, but if all goes to plan he’s going to be a very good player. Huge ceiling.

Bloody ripper of a report. A+ stuff Lad.

 

[windows1]

My thoughts on training:

Overall the hardest session I’ve ever seen. Group work...followed by full ground match sim (2 x 15 min quarters) followed by two groups (mids and forwards) splitting into specialised worked that was regularly punctuated with repeat 150s. They obviously wanted them practising skill under duress. And duress it was.

McGovern and Setters did the first part but not match sim or the later split training. McGovern did extra running.

Plowman a lot of running. Marchy and Kreuzer nothing.

Match sim:
Was clearly ‘ones Vs twos’. Ones included Phillips Fish Dow Kennedy Crippa on ball. Walsh wing. Weiters Simmo etc back. As mentioned Sos was on ball- in the twos team.

Thoughts by player-

Kennedy did extra running. Looks fit. Kept up with LOB in one 2
Minute run (they seem to do these a bit). Dropped off by about 20m in the second. He really is moving remarkably better than last year. He’s not ‘slow’ any more (Obvs will never be ‘quick’). A good session for him and he’s a lock for round 1.

Fish. Looks a bit stronger and has improved his running. Can’t keep up with the top shelf but not too far behind. Slippery and smart as always in match sim. Love him. Will get on ball time.

Dow. Accelerated out of the middle like he was Judd at one point in match sim. He otherwise just doesn’t seem to get as involved as I’d like. I’m not as high on him as others (such as SOAP). Time will tell. Still looks small in the upper body. Albeit not ‘as’ small. Is def fitter.

Walsh. Disappointingly for me, and perhaps a portent of things to come, Walsh didn’t play on ball at all. Came off the wing. Accumulated as usual. Didn’t quite break open play or impact as much as I’d like. But my standards are high. Sprayed a kick and admonished himself severely at one point. Seemed to struggle by the end of the session and had to sit out a 150 or two.

Ed C. Wow. Like wow. His running may even have gone to another level. I think he may have been challenged pre Xmas. He blew everyone off the park today. Every drill. Pounded everyone. In for his best year.

Murph. I think he’s quietly gotten himself into lifetime best shape and I think he will push for AA and the B+F.
Boom.

Weiters. I just didn’t notice him much. Sorry.

McGovern. Must be the sloppiest looking super athlete I’ve ever seen. How he can jump so high and run that fast with that body is beyond me. Is progressing. Will be fine for round 1.

LOB. Good in patches. Not sure he did the whole session. Looks stronger and more ready to go. Expect s full year in the ones. Was good on his wrong side today btw.

Newman. Seems a neat player. I would expect him to play a lot. Isn’t as slow as I thought.

Thomas. Seems in the best shape of his Carlton years. Didn’t skip a beat. Doesn’t seem like he’s being ‘managed’ at all? Duked it out with Ed for the last 150 of the day. Lost. But so did everyone who had a go at Ed.

Jack. Wow. Talk about a turnaround. His fitness is through the roof. I remember back to the embarrassing shape he was in a couple of preseason back. He’s clearly working overtime. Stop bagging him. He slaughtered himself today in the heat. Really hurt himself. Maybe only Ed had the better of him in the running drills as a whole (lob didn’t really join the group runs to be fair).

Ben. Didn’t notice him much but he’s as others have said- quicker and more athletic than we all thought.

SPS did some really nice stuff. Sure his running has improved but he still finishes at the back of the pack in the 150s. He’s fitter but will still need to mix his time on ball.

Crippa......seems even better. Is that possible? He seems quicker and more agile. God help everyone this year.

Casboult is in great shape. Did well in the ‘talls’ 150s. They trialled him down back as others have said. Ok idea I guess?

McKay. Wow. He’s just....too good. Too big. Too fast. Too agile. Great hands above head and below knees. Very exciting by him. Did he leave the track early?

CC was great. Seems to be slightly in second gear.

Stocker is confusing. At one point he fumbled, looked slow and generally like an out and out dud. At another point he did ok. Sometimes he looked slow. Then he pushed Ed in a 150. All I could make of it was “just wait and see”.

Polson was explosive and impressive in match sim. Was in the ‘ones’ and I have to say is probably in that side for round one right now. Keep it up son we need someone like you.

Cuningham - barely noticed him and think he didn’t do a full session.

Lebois. I bagged his fitness before Xmas. I’ll do it again. Not in afl shape. The end. He was torched in the 2
Minute runs. I’ve no time for him.

Setters was good for what he did. Look smooth. Didn’t participate in the match sim. Is getting there. Outside chance for round one.

Don’t think Bugg did much.

Happy to answer questions if I’ve missed anything.

Overall a super session. A lot to like. They are heaps fitter.

 

[Bobmonkey]

Lots of guesswork given how many players were on the sidelines, but based on the 'Probables' team -

FB: Plowman Weitering Newman
HB: Thomas Marchbank Simpson
C: SPS Murphy Walsh
HF: Polson Curnow Fisher
FF: McGovern McKay Fasolo
RR: Kreuzer Cripps Kennedy
INT: E. Curnow Setterfield Dow Cuningham

*** Cough, cough.... LOB ***

 

[windows1]

Love that Russell still made them train hard. Great for Mental toughness. Need to push through when it gets tough. Awesome stuff

Over and over again they made them do 2 x 150s and then straight into a drill. Clearly making them work under stress.

 

[murphster]

Love that Russell still made them train hard. Great for Mental toughness. Need to push through when it gets tough. Awesome stuff

That’s it the mental toughness will make the difference between runners up and premiership players.

 

[Macca43]

My thoughts on training:

Overall the hardest session I’ve ever seen. Group work...followed by full ground match sim (2 x 15 min quarters) followed by two groups (mids and forwards) splitting into specialised worked that was regularly punctuated with repeat 150s. They obviously wanted them practising skill under duress. And duress it was.

McGovern and Setters did the first part but not match sim or the later split training. McGovern did extra running.

Plowman a lot of running. Marchy and Kreuzer nothing.

Match sim:
Was clearly ‘ones Vs twos’. Ones included Phillips Fish Dow Kennedy Crippa on ball. Walsh wing. Weiters Simmo etc back. As mentioned Sos was on ball- in the twos team.

Thoughts by player-

Kennedy did extra running. Looks fit. Kept up with LOB in one 2
Minute run (they seem to do these a bit). Dropped off by about 20m in the second. He really is moving remarkably better than last year. He’s not ‘slow’ any more (Obvs will never be ‘quick’). A good session for him and he’s a lock for round 1.

Fish. Looks a bit stronger and has improved his running. Can’t keep up with the top shelf but not too far behind. Slippery and smart as always in match sim. Love him. Will get on ball time.

Dow. Accelerated out of the middle like he was Judd at one point in match sim. He otherwise just doesn’t seem to get as involved as I’d like. I’m not as high on him as others (such as SOAP). Time will tell. Still looks small in the upper body. Albeit not ‘as’ small. Is def fitter.

Walsh. Disappointingly for me, and perhaps a portent of things to come, Walsh didn’t play on ball at all. Came off the wing. Accumulated as usual. Didn’t quite break open play or impact as much as I’d like. But my standards are high. Sprayed a kick and admonished himself severely at one point. Seemed to struggle by the end of the session and had to sit out a 150 or two.

Ed C. Wow. Like wow. His running may even have gone to another level. I think he may have been challenged pre Xmas. He blew everyone off the park today. Every drill. Pounded everyone. In for his best year.

Murph. I think he’s quietly gotten himself into lifetime best shape and I think he will push for AA and the B+F.
Boom.

Weiters. I just didn’t notice him much. Sorry.

McGovern. Must be the sloppiest looking super athlete I’ve ever seen. How he can jump so high and run that fast with that body is beyond me. Is progressing. Will be fine for round 1.

LOB. Good in patches. Not sure he did the whole session. Looks stronger and more ready to go. Expect s full year in the ones. Was good on his wrong side today btw.

Newman. Seems a neat player. I would expect him to play a lot. Isn’t as slow as I thought.

Thomas. Seems in the best shape of his Carlton years. Didn’t skip a beat. Doesn’t seem like he’s being ‘managed’ at all? Duked it out with Ed for the last 150 of the day. Lost. But so did everyone who had a go at Ed.

Jack. Wow. Talk about a turnaround. His fitness is through the roof. I remember back to the embarrassing shape he was in a couple of preseason back. He’s clearly working overtime. Stop bagging him. He slaughtered himself today in the heat. Really hurt himself. Maybe only Ed had the better of him in the running drills as a whole (lob didn’t really join the group runs to be fair).

Ben. Didn’t notice him much but he’s as others have said- quicker and more athletic than we all thought.

SPS did some really nice stuff. Sure his running has improved but he still finishes at the back of the pack in the 150s. He’s fitter but will still need to mix his time on ball.

Crippa......seems even better. Is that possible? He seems quicker and more agile. God help everyone this year.

Casboult is in great shape. Did well in the ‘talls’ 150s. They trialled him down back as others have said. Ok idea I guess?

McKay. Wow. He’s just....too good. Too big. Too fast. Too agile. Great hands above head and below knees. Very exciting by him. Did he leave the track early?

CC was great. Seems to be slightly in second gear.

Stocker is confusing. At one point he fumbled, looked slow and generally like an out and out dud. At another point he did ok. Sometimes he looked slow. Then he pushed Ed in a 150. All I could make of it was “just wait and see”.

Polson was explosive and impressive in match sim. Was in the ‘ones’ and I have to say is probably in that side for round one right now. Keep it up son we need someone like you.

Cuningham - barely noticed him and think he didn’t do a full session.

Lebois. I bagged his fitness before Xmas. I’ll do it again. Not in afl shape. The end. He was torched in the 2
Minute runs. I’ve no time for him.

Setters was good for what he did. Look smooth. Didn’t participate in the match sim. Is getting there. Outside chance for round one.

Don’t think Bugg did much.

Happy to answer questions if I’ve missed anything.

Overall a super session. A lot to like. They are heaps fitter.

Murph. I think he’s quietly gotten himself into lifetime best shape and I think he will push for AA and the B+F. -That's my tip too.

 

[thylacine60]

My thoughts on training:

Overall the hardest session I’ve ever seen. Group work...followed by full ground match sim (2 x 15 min quarters) followed by two groups (mids and forwards) splitting into specialised worked that was regularly punctuated with repeat 150s. They obviously wanted them practising skill under duress. And duress it was.

McGovern and Setters did the first part but not match sim or the later split training. McGovern did extra running.

Plowman a lot of running. Marchy and Kreuzer nothing.

Match sim:
Was clearly ‘ones Vs twos’. Ones included Phillips Fish Dow Kennedy Crippa on ball. Walsh wing. Weiters Simmo etc back. As mentioned Sos was on ball- in the twos team.

Thoughts by player-

Kennedy did extra running. Looks fit. Kept up with LOB in one 2
Minute run (they seem to do these a bit). Dropped off by about 20m in the second. He really is moving remarkably better than last year. He’s not ‘slow’ any more (Obvs will never be ‘quick’). A good session for him and he’s a lock for round 1.

Fish. Looks a bit stronger and has improved his running. Can’t keep up with the top shelf but not too far behind. Slippery and smart as always in match sim. Love him. Will get on ball time.

Dow. Accelerated out of the middle like he was Judd at one point in match sim. He otherwise just doesn’t seem to get as involved as I’d like. I’m not as high on him as others (such as SOAP). Time will tell. Still looks small in the upper body. Albeit not ‘as’ small. Is def fitter.

Walsh. Disappointingly for me, and perhaps a portent of things to come, Walsh didn’t play on ball at all. Came off the wing. Accumulated as usual. Didn’t quite break open play or impact as much as I’d like. But my standards are high. Sprayed a kick and admonished himself severely at one point. Seemed to struggle by the end of the session and had to sit out a 150 or two.

Ed C. Wow. Like wow. His running may even have gone to another level. I think he may have been challenged pre Xmas. He blew everyone off the park today. Every drill. Pounded everyone. In for his best year.

Murph. I think he’s quietly gotten himself into lifetime best shape and I think he will push for AA and the B+F.
Boom.

Weiters. I just didn’t notice him much. Sorry.

McGovern. Must be the sloppiest looking super athlete I’ve ever seen. How he can jump so high and run that fast with that body is beyond me. Is progressing. Will be fine for round 1.

LOB. Good in patches. Not sure he did the whole session. Looks stronger and more ready to go. Expect s full year in the ones. Was good on his wrong side today btw.

Newman. Seems a neat player. I would expect him to play a lot. Isn’t as slow as I thought.

Thomas. Seems in the best shape of his Carlton years. Didn’t skip a beat. Doesn’t seem like he’s being ‘managed’ at all? Duked it out with Ed for the last 150 of the day. Lost. But so did everyone who had a go at Ed.

Jack. Wow. Talk about a turnaround. His fitness is through the roof. I remember back to the embarrassing shape he was in a couple of preseason back. He’s clearly working overtime. Stop bagging him. He slaughtered himself today in the heat. Really hurt himself. Maybe only Ed had the better of him in the running drills as a whole (lob didn’t really join the group runs to be fair).

Ben. Didn’t notice him much but he’s as others have said- quicker and more athletic than we all thought.

SPS did some really nice stuff. Sure his running has improved but he still finishes at the back of the pack in the 150s. He’s fitter but will still need to mix his time on ball.

Crippa......seems even better. Is that possible? He seems quicker and more agile. God help everyone this year.

Casboult is in great shape. Did well in the ‘talls’ 150s. They trialled him down back as others have said. Ok idea I guess?

McKay. Wow. He’s just....too good. Too big. Too fast. Too agile. Great hands above head and below knees. Very exciting by him. Did he leave the track early?

CC was great. Seems to be slightly in second gear.

Stocker is confusing. At one point he fumbled, looked slow and generally like an out and out dud. At another point he did ok. Sometimes he looked slow. Then he pushed Ed in a 150. All I could make of it was “just wait and see”.

Polson was explosive and impressive in match sim. Was in the ‘ones’ and I have to say is probably in that side for round one right now. Keep it up son we need someone like you.

Cuningham - barely noticed him and think he didn’t do a full session.

Lebois. I bagged his fitness before Xmas. I’ll do it again. Not in afl shape. The end. He was torched in the 2
Minute runs. I’ve no time for him.

Setters was good for what he did. Look smooth. Didn’t participate in the match sim. Is getting there. Outside chance for round one.

Don’t think Bugg did much.

Happy to answer questions if I’ve missed anything.

Overall a super session. A lot to like. They are heaps fitter.

magic stuff, windows - tough ask but anything on macreadie?

 

[windows1]

magic stuff, windows - tough ask but anything on macreadie?

Wasn’t there

 

[Carl Tone]

Weitering was OK and let's not be too harsh for what we effectively witnessed as simply one quarter of football on a hot and windy day.
There was one thing though that I saw near the end of the day that had me saying to myself; Not again Jacob.

Excellent report.

On the Weitering front I'd be keen to cut him slack. At 22 he's got 8 years of good footy ahead and likely to hit top gear at 24. With glimpses early and the early form from other recruited mids, and then Charlie and McKay going up a notch, can we really expect every player to come on so quickly? As long as there's progress in all areas from physique, running speed, endurance and development of reading play, by the time he hits 24 he'll be firing. We've got Jones still for taking the no1 backman, and then who knows if Casboult ends up following the Jones path... That's another big fella down back allowing Weitering to develop whilst being the 3rd big with less pressure.

 

[Carl Tone]

Murph. I think he’s quietly gotten himself into lifetime best shape and I think he will push for AA and the B+F. -That's my tip too.

AA and B+F ...but not in the frame for a Brownlow?