Training Pre-season 2019

[The rabbi]

Mich Ducan on pre-season training.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/01...t-cats-need-to-improve-to-challenge-for-flag/

 

[Max Milburn]

Contested ball.
Consistency (especially in first quarter of finals!).
Executing fundamentals (correcting basic mistakes).
Talked up Rohan and Dalhaus.
Unfortunately, nothing about training the house down.

 

[Jack Richards]

Chook round 1 smokey?

 

[Max Milburn]

Chook round 1 smokey?

Translation:
I say, do you think Charlie Constable might be in the mix to play in Geelong's first home and away game this season?

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

Contested ball.
Consistency (especially in first quarter of finals!).
Executing fundamentals (correcting basic mistakes).
Talked up Rohan and Dalhaus.
Unfortunately, nothing about training the house down.

Executing fundamentals is a huge one for us IMHO - there were a number of games last season where we executed poorly via a skill or decision error that both robbed us of a scoring opportunity and gave the opposition possession and a chance to score.
These can rob us of momentum , the more clinical and clean we can be under pressure the better the results we will achieve.
There's massive potential for upside here , good to hear we are training to address that

 

[Landgraft]

Contested ball.
Consistency (especially in first quarter of finals!).
Executing fundamentals (correcting basic mistakes).
Talked up Rohan and Dalhaus.
Unfortunately, nothing about training the house down.

And I was so close to bingo...

 

[Willo_]

Looks like the brothers have organised another scratch match.

On AFLX, let's hope Danger does the right thing and doesn't pick a single one of his team mates.. And anyone else that is picked makes themselves unavailable for that nonsense... But play the scratch match, that at least will be beneficial for us

 

[winty]

Glad I was sitting down when I flicked through my copy of the AFL Prospectus which arrived today. Player ratings for our list according to Champion Data:

Elite: Dangerfield, Menegola, Hawkins.

Can understand Danger and Hawkins. Don't know about Menegola though.

Above Average: Henderson, Blicavs, Kelly, Taylor, Duncan, Tuohy, Ablett, Smith.

Henderson? Taylor? Smith? Surely they're extracting the urine.

Average: Parfitt, Henry, Stanley, J.Selwood, Stewart, Dahlhaus, Rohan.

Selwood and Stewart only rated average? Pisser. Surely Stanley should be rated higher than Smith too.

Below Average: Fogarty, C.Guthrie, Kolodjashnij, Parsons, Cunico, S.Selwood, Bews, Cockatoo.

Poor: Z.Guthrie

Unclassified (less than 10 games in last 2 years) : Narkle, Ratugolea, O'Connor, Jones, Abbott, Fort, Atkins, Buzza, Simpson, Okunbor, Miers, Constable, Kreuger, Brownless, Tarca, Kennerley, Jarvis, Schlensog, Clark.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Glad I was sitting down when I flicked through my copy of the AFL Prospectus which arrived today. Player ratings for our list according to Champion Data:

Elite: Dangerfield, Menegola, Hawkins.

Can understand Danger and Hawkins. Don't know about Menegola though.

Above Average: Henderson, Blicavs, Kelly, Taylor, Duncan, Tuohy, Ablett, Smith.

Henderson? Taylor? Smith? Surely they're extracting the urine.

Average: Parfitt, Henry, Stanley, J.Selwood, Stewart, Dahlhaus, Rohan.

Selwood and Stewart only rated average? Pisser. Surely Stanley should be rated higher than Smith too.

Below Average: Fogarty, C.Guthrie, Kolodjashnij, Parsons, Cunico, S.Selwood, Bews, Cockatoo.

Poor: Z.Guthrie

Unclassified (less than 10 games in last 2 years) : Narkle, Ratugolea, O'Connor, Jones, Abbott, Fort, Atkins, Buzza, Simpson, Okunbor, Miers, Constable, Kreuger, Brownless, Tarca, Kennerley, Jarvis, Schlensog, Clark.

Wow!

 

[BIGANT]

From what we've seen harder and longer the sessions this yr, and more contested. Today would've have been torturous in the heat, but they would have been closely monitored.

On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Wellsy35]

http://www.krockfootball.com.au/geelong-cats-news/skipper-fan-fort/

Darcy getting some internal praise

GO Catters

The, shall we say, “cynical” in me very much noticed the phrase “there’s no one really standing out.”

Put a bit of a dampener on things once I’d read it.

 

[Cataholic]

The, shall we say, “cynical” in me very much noticed the phrase “there’s no one really standing out.”

Put a bit of a dampener on things once I’d read it.

Same.

Made it sound like he has been the best of a very ordinary lot.........

 

[David the Cat]

Wow...wish we had more average players like that J Selwood guy...and that All Australian Stewart guy too.

 

[Max Milburn]

Presuming Champion Data base ratings on stats alone?
Meh.

 

[cynical]

Champion data would be useful as toilet paper in the apocalypse, not very useful for player or team ratings.

 

[Pollywaffle]

Glad I was sitting down when I flicked through my copy of the AFL Prospectus which arrived today. Player ratings for our list according to Champion Data:

Elite: Dangerfield, Menegola, Hawkins.

Can understand Danger and Hawkins. Don't know about Menegola though.

Above Average: Henderson, Blicavs, Kelly, Taylor, Duncan, Tuohy, Ablett, Smith.

Henderson? Taylor? Smith? Surely they're extracting the urine.

Average: Parfitt, Henry, Stanley, J.Selwood, Stewart, Dahlhaus, Rohan.

Selwood and Stewart only rated average? Pisser. Surely Stanley should be rated higher than Smith too.

Below Average: Fogarty, C.Guthrie, Kolodjashnij, Parsons, Cunico, S.Selwood, Bews, Cockatoo.

Poor: Z.Guthrie

Unclassified (less than 10 games in last 2 years) : Narkle, Ratugolea, O'Connor, Jones, Abbott, Fort, Atkins, Buzza, Simpson, Okunbor, Miers, Constable, Kreuger, Brownless, Tarca, Kennerley, Jarvis, Schlensog, Clark.

Who writes this crap? Shows how BS it is basing assessment on stats.

 

[Daniel McL]

Cocky working hard in the gym with the lads

 

[Cattery]

Glad I was sitting down when I flicked through my copy of the AFL Prospectus which arrived today. Player ratings for our list according to Champion Data:

Elite: Dangerfield, Menegola, Hawkins.

Can understand Danger and Hawkins. Don't know about Menegola though.

Above Average: Henderson, Blicavs, Kelly, Taylor, Duncan, Tuohy, Ablett, Smith.

Henderson? Taylor? Smith? Surely they're extracting the urine.

Average: Parfitt, Henry, Stanley, J.Selwood, Stewart, Dahlhaus, Rohan.

Selwood and Stewart only rated average? Pisser. Surely Stanley should be rated higher than Smith too.

Below Average: Fogarty, C.Guthrie, Kolodjashnij, Parsons, Cunico, S.Selwood, Bews, Cockatoo.

Poor: Z.Guthrie

Unclassified (less than 10 games in last 2 years) : Narkle, Ratugolea, O'Connor, Jones, Abbott, Fort, Atkins, Buzza, Simpson, Okunbor, Miers, Constable, Kreuger, Brownless, Tarca, Kennerley, Jarvis, Schlensog, Clark.

If we needed any more proof (which we don't) that Champion Data is an absolute joke then here it is.

Selwood and Stewart rated below the likes of Henderson and Smith, you'd have to be on some pretty strong illegal substance to come to that conclusion.

 

[Shai]

Cocky working hard in the gym with the lads
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He has worked hard from the start. Prob is, he maybe overdid what he should have been doing and that's on the club.

 

[Pollywaffle]

He has worked hard from the start. Prob is, he maybe overdid what he should have been doing and that's on the club.

Spot on- too big,too early

 

[Wellsy35]

If we needed any more proof (which we don't) that Champion Data is an absolute joke then here it is.

Selwood and Stewart rated below the likes of Henderson and Smith, you'd have to be on some pretty strong illegal substance to come to that conclusion.

It would make more sense if the rankings were position-based (i.e. Selwood is average compared to midfielders), but that still doesn’t stop it being a dumpster fire of an article.

 

[ChookNorris]

It would make more sense if the rankings were position-based (i.e. Selwood is average compared to midfielders), but that still doesn’t stop it being a dumpster fire of an article.

That’s exactly how they are seperated. It’s how Menegola is rated elite as he is a forward mid.

 

[Ricketz]

Presuming Champion Data base ratings on stats alone?
Meh.

Stats aren't scary, they are just misunderstood.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...s/news-story/11c470294460ca5ad9e9064f080721d3

This article neatly explains some of the perceived oddities in their rankings. Their rolling data is two years deep, so players like Hendo are living off their successful 2017.

Player ratings are against position. So it is no surprise that Menegola is an elite half forward, they are not comparing him to other midfielders.

To be rated elite, you have to be top 10% of players for your position. So for midfielders, you really need to be top 6 to 8, explaining why a guy like Selwood is rated lower than we expect.

 

[Ricketz]

If we needed any more proof (which we don't) that Champion Data is an absolute joke then here it is.

Selwood and Stewart rated below the likes of Henderson and Smith, you'd have to be on some pretty strong illegal substance to come to that conclusion.

As noted above, that is not what they are rating. Selwood and Stewart are rated against their peers in their position, not against their own team mates in other positions. Also, they use two years worth of data, so Stewart is brought down by his good but not great first year.

 

[Max Milburn]

Stats aren't scary, they are just misunderstood.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...s/news-story/11c470294460ca5ad9e9064f080721d3

This article neatly explains some of the perceived oddities in their rankings. Their rolling data is two years deep, so players like Hendo are living off their successful 2017.

Player ratings are against position. So it is no surprise that Menegola is an elite half forward, they are not comparing him to other midfielders.

To be rated elite, you have to be top 10% of players for your position. So for midfielders, you really need to be top 6 to 8, explaining why a guy like Selwood is rated lower than we expect.

Scary? I just couldn't care less.
I'm a football fan not an accountant.