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C'mon mate, do you really think that he liked the post because he only agreed with bits of it?

Well I don't know, only gaj does anyone else is speculating.

Of course we have to include everyone - but again I think you've taken that quite literally. I don't need to explain what people mean when they say include everyone, I think you are just nitpicking

Well then please explain how we include everyone? Like it or not it is not possible to do so because people have different beliefs, murderers, pedophiles and rapists and bad people in general have to be excluded from society right? For the safety of society right?

Gary has shown his true colours, and regardless of how good a player he is, he should be called out for it. It is absolutely incredible that the AFL are backing him.

Oh no doubt call him out all you like, but remember that anyone can also be called out for claiming they know exactly what he's thinking on the back of a like (read speculation).
 
At least you had the choice to be a fornicator or a liar, name one of the groups listed on there that isn't a choice.
Are you implying there is not a component of choice in homosexual behaviour?

Secondly, where did Gary state he hates homosexuals?
 
Are you implying there is not a component of choice in homosexual behaviour?

Secondly, where did Gary state he hates homosexuals?

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Are you hetrosexual , do you have thoughts about being with other men ?
 

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I just think it's ironic that people are arguing Ablett vilified one group (but ignoring all the other words) and are now happy to vilify (boo and insult) Ablett or other religious people with those beliefs because its something they disagree with. It seems an eye for an eye is fine, but it's only allowed in one direction.

Well that's really what I'm pointing out here, there are some labeling him a homophobe on the back of a like. They're not even identifying the other sinners in that post. It's "GAJ is a homophobe" on the back of a like.

Is he? Well we don't know, is he against all the other sins? Well we don't know. We can only guess, to be convinced he's a homophobe on the back of a like of a post is rather hysterical.
 
Are you implying there is not a component of choice in homosexual behaviour?

Secondly, where did Gary state he hates homosexuals?

So now you can answer the question: do you think there is a component of choice in being homosexual?

(I don't, my answer)
 
C'mon mate, do you really think that he liked the post because he only agreed with bits of it? As you said, everyone is entitled to their views and the consequences for them. Well, he liked Israel's comment. In it's entirety. So he should face the consequences of agreeing with such an outdated view, right?

I think you've got it around the wrong way. It doesn't scream of PC at all. We're in the age of social media, and you don't need to comment after someone has posted to agree with their comment - if you like the post it serves the same purpose.

Of course we have to include everyone - but again I think you've taken that quite literally. I don't need to explain what people mean when they say include everyone, I think you are just nitpicking.

Gary has shown his true colours, and regardless of how good a player he is, he should be called out for it. It is absolutely incredible that the AFL are backing him.

True colours = believing that sinners, which includes everyone, need to avoid sinning to avoid hell.
 
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Are you hetrosexual , do you have thoughts about being with other men ?

Your answer is not that clear. (there are double negatives in play in the question and answer)

Do you think people choose to be gay?
 
I'm not homosexual but I did experiment when I was younger just to see what it was like. No regrets. It wasn't bad but I wasn't into it so I stayed heterosexual.
 
Sorry. I can't take any adult with an IQ over 70 who has an invisible friend seriously. Gun footballer but mentally unstable IMO. Good to hear us atheists are going to 'hell'. Sounds like something from 1645, not 2019.
 

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Don't want to defend the homophobes here but I don't think there is a choice in being a drunk either.

Addiction is a disease. It is ****ing obviousness to anyone who has spent a long time with addicts, especially before they became addicts.
 
Well that's really what I'm pointing out here, there are some labeling him a homophobe on the back of a like. They're not even identifying the other sinners in that post. It's "GAJ is a homophobe" on the back of a like.

Is he? Well we don't know, is he against all the other sins? Well we don't know. We can only guess, to be convinced he's a homophobe on the back of a like of a post is rather hysterical.
Nah mate. He agreed with the post. Very simple. Do you like (put your name attached) to posts on social media that you don’t agree with?
 
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Thoughts are not the same as actions, that's the thought-action fusion misconception. Individuals can have thoughts of anything, especially if primed. However to answer your question, no I dont have desires to be homosexual, though homosexual images or thoughts have been in my awareness.

Thoughts are not the same as reality. Violent thoughts does not necessarily make someone a violent person. Altruistic or benevolent thoughts doesnt make someone a saint.

I ask because you seem to state your opinion as fact. Can I ask do you have any experience or knowledge of personality development theories, sexual (physical) development and thus the development of sexuality?

There are certainly components out of individual choice, such as personality traits, predispositions, then there is nature vs nurture, life experiences, early childhood development, etc. But there is also undoubtably a component of choice and action in an individuals development and behavior.

That's getting off track though, as theres nothing wrong with being a homosexual, even with an element of choice.
 
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Sorry. I can't take any adult with an IQ over 70 who has an invisible friend seriously. Gun footballer but mentally unstable IMO. Good to hear us atheists are going to 'hell'. Sounds like something from 1645, not 2019.
Do you celebrate Easter or Christmas? Got married in a church or with a religious ceremony? These are all religious events or holidays. Just curious. No judgement either way but would be ironic if you celebrate Christian holidays but not holidays from other religions without any religious faith.
 
Nah mate. He agreed with the post. Very simple. Do you like (put your name attached) to posts on social media that you don’t agree with?

That's a very simplistic view in fact naive, can you tell us why he like the post? And can you prove that? He agreed with what exactly in that post? Did he "like" everything in that post?

Can you tell us exactly what he liked in that post? If so then you sir can read minds.
 

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Actually the ‘sin’ if you believe it to be one is ACTING on the homosexual urge. So yes in that context it is a choice.

Doesn't really address being homosexual as a choice. Just the urges. It still isn't a choice to be homosexual
 
Well I don't know, only gaj does anyone else is speculating.



Well then please explain how we include everyone? Like it or not it is not possible to do so because people have different beliefs, murderers, pedophiles and rapists and bad people in general have to be excluded from society right? For the safety of society right?



Oh no doubt call him out all you like, but remember that anyone can also be called out for claiming they know exactly what he's thinking on the back of a like (read speculation).
So you think that when the AFL say that we are inclusive/include everyone they also mean that rapists and murderers are apart of that group? Do you really, really think that?

I'm pretty confident I know what he was doing when he agreed with Folau's post.
 
So now you can answer the question: do you think there is a component of choice in being homosexual?

(I don't, my answer)

I suspect so, in at least some cases. Why else would there be three times as many male homosexuals as female, in the absence of a "gay gene"?

The church's official stance is that homosexuality should be addressed through abstinence and prayer (Catechism 2357-2359).

‘Ex-Gay’ Men Fight Back Against View That Homosexuality Can’t Be Changed
 
Thoughts are not the same as actions, that's the thought-action fusion misconception. Individuals can have thoughts of anything, especially if primed. However to answer your question, no I dont have desires to be homosexual, though homosexual images or thoughts have been in my awareness.

Thoughts are not the same as reality. Violent thoughts does not necessarily make someone a violent person. Altruistic or benevolent thoughts doesnt make someone a saint.

I ask because you seem to state your opinion as fact. Can I ask do you have any experience or knowledge of personality development theories, sexual (physical) development and thus the development of sexuality?

There are certainly components out of individual choice, such as personality traits, predispositions, then there is nature vs nurture, life experiences, early childhood development, etc. But there is also undoubtably a component of choice and action in an individuals development and behavior.

That's getting off track though, as theres nothing wrong with being a homosexual, even with an element of choice.

I find it hard to believe you got to puberty and decided females were for you and not males.
 
Ablett should be given a chance. He prolly deserved a bit of something this week. But thats it. I ****ing hated the Goodes booing that went on and on. It was crowd bullying in the end.

Ablett has given his story. Lets all accept it, pretend its true, and hold him to it. Done and dusted.
 
That's a very simplistic view in fact naive, can you tell us why he like the post? And can you prove that? He agreed with what exactly in that post? Did he "like" everything in that post?

Can you tell us exactly what he liked in that post? If so then you sir can read minds.
Im naive. Ok. I’ll forgive Gary this one mistake. For a guy with sure hands on the footy field he sure is sloppy operating his phone.
 
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