Recommitted Tom Papley [wanted to return to Victoria, nominated Carlton - didn't get there]

[mpal6]

When it pans out you will be keeping well away from this thread ..bookmark it

Well it won't stop you from going through all pages and LOLing at posts I'm sure .. started this morning at page 8 I think?

 

[Skull Face]

Originally thought we needed Sydney's 2nd round pick this year for Martin but with all those picks GC got should be easy enough to just give pick 9 as a straight swap.

 

[Tedeski]

Sydney doesn't need to let Blues win. They can look after their own interests and ask for a ransom in my view. As the link provided earlier shows its contracted up to 2023, so if Blues want him that badly they can pay up.

You are forgetting to factor in the VFL index which is where an interstate club is expected to take less & give more in any deal/trade with a National VFL club!

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Pick 9 is about right as much as I think that is still on the unders side- we just better not accept less.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Similar, not exact. Gibbs’ wife hadn’t moved anywhere. He was one of a handful of senior players Carlton had planned their rebuild around and signed a straight up long term contract, no clauses, which had already been front loaded before he requested the trade. He also informed the club quite late, whereas this move seems to have been on the boil for a while now.

Carlton have done really well to attract a quality player in an direct area of need, now they’ll have to pay up. Hopefully a deal is done that satisfies everyone.

I have a feeling we'll be made to give up pick 9. Hopefully we at least get something back.

 

[manang magoos]

You are forgetting to factor in the VFL index which is where an interstate club is expected to take less & give more in any deal/trade with a National VFL club!

What are you on what ever it is I’ll have a kilo

 

[zeggie]

Pick 9 is about right as much as I think that is still on the unders side- we just better not accept less.

Agreed. I can't see us offering less tho. He's contracted, he's publicly nominated us, we will ensure the trade gets over the line. The deal will get done.

To those referring to Gibbs, that was an entirely different situation. Young Reidy moved the clearly established and agreed goal posts on the last day of trading which caused the entire deal to fall over.

 

[V23]

Pick 9 for Papley and a third. At the very least, Pick 9 and a third or fourth round upgrade.

 

[tombomb]

all of this discussion seems somewhat pointless, until there is 100% clarification on Papley's contract situation. Too many different media reports.

If he is contracted until 2021, then it probably happens for pick 9.

If he is contracted until 2023, carlton will probably have to give more.

BTW, people (from all teams) who constantly post crap like this 'will' happen and 'we' wont accept x ... and x deal is 'done' ... when they don't have the first clue of what they are talking about and their 'source' is the dude they have coffees with at work ... are the problem with BigFooty.

 

[Juddernaut08]

all of this discussion seems somewhat pointless, until there is 100% clarification on Papley's contract situation. Too many different media reports.

If he is contracted until 2021, then it probably happens for pick 9.

If he is contracted until 2023, carlton will probably have to give more.

BTW, all the dickheads (from all teams) who constantly post crap like this 'will' happen and 'we' wont accept x ... and x deal is 'done' ... when they don't have the first clue of what they are talking about and their 'source' is the dude they have coffees with at work ... are the problem with BigFooty.

This is part of the fun of forums though.

 

[tombomb]

This is part of the fun of forums though.

We have people on our own board who say Daniher will get done for a second round pick.

Not 'imagine if' ... or 'i dreamt' .... will!

 

[zeggie]

all of this discussion seems somewhat pointless, until there is 100% clarification

Did you confuse this discussion forum with an encyclopedia?

 

[tombomb]

Did you confuse this discussion forum with an encyclopedia?

yeah i did.

But the point is if Papley is contracted for 2 or 4 years, it changes everything. Until that is completely established, speculating on what a trade will be is only guesswork.

2 years, well Sydney probably are keen to make a deal.

4 years ... good grief, Australia could be underwater by then due to the climate apocalypse.

 

[zeggie]

2 years, well Sydney probably are keen to make a deal.

4 years ... good grief, Australia could be underwater by then due to the climate apocalypse.

That sounds awfully close to you discussing and speculating what Sydney (and Mother Nature) are thinking....

Here's a fact - Papley has told Sydney he wants to go to Carlton. Why would he do that if it's 4 years?

 

[Lore]

Linked article quite clearly states that Papley is contracted until 2023. All reputable sources that I can find are going with 2023 also, barring the Herald Sun's live blog, which I can't check as I'm not a subscriber.

 

[tombomb]

That sounds awfully close to you discussing and speculating what Sydney (and Mother Nature) are thinking....

Here's a fact - Papley has told Sydney he wants to go to Carlton. Why would he do that if it's 4 years?

because he wants a trade to carlton i guess.

 

[tombomb]

Linked article quite clearly states that Papley is contracted until 2023. All reputable sources that I can find are going with 2023 also, barring the Herald Sun's live blog, which I can't check as I'm not a subscriber.

The Herald Sun article sounds more realistic. Ive been saying since the AFL.com article got posted that it made little sense. Papley's management would be seriously incompetent to agree to that kind of extension when he already looked like a well established AFL footballer.

 

[zeggie]

because he wants a trade to carlton i guess.

Welcome to the discussion forum. Enjoy your stay.

 

[Lore]

The Herald Sun article sounds more realistic. Ive been saying since the AFL.com article got posted that it made little sense. Papley's management would be seriously incompetent to agree to that kind of extension when he already looked like a well established AFL footballer.

You mean their live coverage blog? Someone posting updates every ten minutes is far more likely to have it wrong than a dozen people who have spent hours writing articles categorically stating that he's contracted.

His management may well be incompetent, no one has ruled that out. Or maybe his circumstances changed in the last few months.

It could also be that the way that the trigger clause works, as it appears there were two triggers, one for an extra year to 2021 and one for two more years on top of that, to 2023. Usually both parties have to agree to take the option for it to come into effect, but perhaps agreeing to the one last year also agrees to the other this year.

 

[tombomb]

You mean their live coverage blog? Someone posting updates every ten minutes is far more likely to have it wrong than a dozen people who have spent hours writing articles categorically stating that he's contracted.

His management may well be incompetent, no one has ruled that out. Or maybe his circumstances changed in the last few months.

It could also be that the way that the trigger clause works, as it appears there were two triggers, one for an extra year to 2021 and one for two more years on top of that, to 2023. Usually both parties have to agree to take the option for it to come into effect, but perhaps agreeing to the one last year also agrees to the other this year.

I think its a proper Sam Edmund article.

But anyway, It doesnt make a lot of sense to me that any trigger clause would be beneficial to the club that signed him.

Unless it was a really fringe or tainted player who was otherwise not going to receive a contract unless he agreed to a certain deal.

The idea that he was contracted until 2021 with a player option until 2023 seems far more logical to me.

 

[Bollox]

This girlfriend better be a damn supermodel


and exceptional cook.

 

[Stamos]

Linked article quite clearly states that Papley is contracted until 2023. All reputable sources that I can find are going with 2023 also, barring the Herald Sun's live blog, which I can't check as I'm not a subscriber.

Who knows which one is accurate, but it would seem that at least Sam Edmund has sought clarification, and has gone with 2021.
The link works without a login

 

[MITSUHIRATO]

I work with Pap’s girlfriend since she’s come back from Sydney full time - he will nominate Carlton.

BUMP.

According to Pap’s girlfriend he’s only contracted for two years (not four), Hawthorn we’re keen also, already house hunting in Melbourne. Pretty confident it will happen.

 

[Bollox]

You work with her ? Tell her this...

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

She cost us a damn good goal sneak.

Girlfriends should be banned until players turn 25. Make it happen AFL.

 

[TryAnHit]

"Wants to nominate Victoria... choses 1 specific club"
Should on be able to nominate a state and contract price then the club can find the best return for any club willing to take the players contract