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Based on what? What is limiting Worpel's ceiling? Can't for the life of me figure out what will stop him from having the ability to be an elite inside mid in the AFL.
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Can Hawthorn succeed while ignoring the elite end of the draft?
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Mitchell won bnf in front of hodge and sewell. franklins first placing was 2008 roughy 2013 and lewis 2014, when franklin left.
Was discussing the bnf and worpels apparent ‘ceiling’ exactly the commentary on sam mitchell back then ( even a couple of years ago by the girfriend glasser)
If your argument is mitch had hodge and lewis alongside him. But worps will have tom mitchell, omeara among others like shiels and wingard alongside him.
but feel free to move on to areas where your arguments are not toasted
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I know. Franklin is the only one even playing anymore and he is not at Hawthorn.
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Lol, people who think Worps hasnt got a high Ceiling.
I'm sure they thought the same of a young Lenny Hayes.
I'm sure they thought the same of a young Lenny Hayes.
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Also love the tackle and ball strip on ablett this year.
Oh and I also remember him ragdolling a Richmond tackler when we play them this year. Was funny to watch.
Contested beast and evasively agile. Quite rare id say
One of these blokes is the AFL’s most courageous
The other is Worpel
You do realise Ryan Lonie also won the most courageous gong one year?
Not really fair to pair up Selwood or Ablett with Worpel when it comes to contested ball.
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To people down here it is no surprise how good Worpel has gone.... He is a highly competitive person who is a natural leader, he captained the Falcons to the U18 premiership before he was drafted. How he got through to where he did remains a mystery, he will just continue to get better & better! His ceiling is pretty much where he wants it to be as he is extremely self-motivated.
Comparisons to Miles is not meant as an insult.
Miles was a great finals player, brutal at the contest, very consistent, especially when we were middle of the road
He was just left behind when he was hurt by his inability to spread , just like Worpel will
Prolly cant ruck either
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Where do you rate Taranto?
Worps is fine on the spread both offensively and defensively. Have you seen him play out of interest?
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Taranto and Worpel are the best 2 young inside bulls in the comp.
Only an idiot would compare Taranto to Miles.
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I come from a family full of Richmond supporters, I've watched a fair bit of Anthony Miles in my time, they are extremely dissimilar players.
Miles is a slow, workmanlike midfielder who relied on work in close to get the pill and the only way he got a free disposal was by drawing a high free.
Worpel, on the other hand, is 20 years old and has already had a season far exceeding any season Miles has ever played. He gets far more clearing ball, has far more break-away pace, and hits the scoreboard more regularly. Anthony Miles has been delisted once and thrown away for a packet of chips once, while as a 20 year old Worpel is coming off a B&F year and would likely go for an early 1st if he was ever to be traded.
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Mate, a journeyman from Richmond came in and won your club goal kicking award, and a mature age VFL draftee came third. That's not a criticism on the quality of those players as Lloyd in particular has had a great season, but there's no need to discredit a player based on where he's come from.
All that matters is the year they've had, and this year, Henderson was tremendous - doesn't matter if he was a top 10 pick or a DFA.
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Hawthorn are middle of the table and looking like being there for awhile.
Having said that, anybody who thinks Worpel is not one of the best young players in the AFL is an idiot.
Having said that, anybody who thinks Worpel is not one of the best young players in the AFL is an idiot.
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Worpel does get more clearances because due to Hawthorns limited midfield he is given the opportunity to be at every contest, he does not have line breaking ability and your point on him hitting the scoreboard more regularly is just wrong, he and Miles both average .4 goals per game over their careers.
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Not true,
Taranto 2019 Best and Fairest.
Worpel 2019 Best and Fairest.
Taranto 9 Brownlow Votes
Worpel 10 Brownlow Votes
Player: Taranto - Worpel
Height: 187 - 185
Weight: 87 - 85
Age: 21 - 20
Disposals: 27 - 26
Contested: 11 - 12
Clearances: 5 - 6
Tackles: 6 - 5
They even celebrate a goal the same way.
Is this a joke?
GWS made the grand final and have a superstar midfield and Taranto won their best and fairest
Hawthorn finished ninth,and have a limited midfield and Worpel won their best and fairest
You do realise it is alot harder for Taranto
1. To get in the GWS team than for Worpel to get into Hawthorns team?
2. To get game time in the midfield at GWS than for Worpel to get gametime in Hawthorns limited midfield?
Taranto was also GWS best player in the grand final
This is just common sense mate, stop being silly now.
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Oh yes, let's compare two players careers when one has only played two seasons. At the same age, despite playing 2% less game time, Anthony Miles kicked no goals and no behinds. His average was dragged up by periods where Richmond actually had a half decent team and played him as a forward to try to keep him in, before eventually resigning him to the scrap heap where he belonged.
Anyway - not worth the argument with someone who has clearly not watched the kid play.
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