Prediction Changes and Pre match discussion vs Western Bulldogs round 16 @ Metricon.

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I mean the match committee once selected Mitch Brown in the f****** forward pocket, they're not omnipotent
Ok Sure, but Ainsworth is not exactly playing as a KPP? He might just be playing a role out of necessity given our injuries and lack of depth..also we're playing the Dogs = he's got a tank.
 

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OK well then the only other explanation is that Simpson and the MC are incompetent.
I don't blame them so much for picking him (cupboard is bare and Brayshaw isn't the answer, even if I'd pick him first) as I do for them drafting him originally.

If he ends up playing mainly outside may as well have chosen Foley, he can run.
 
Mcginnity played 90 games for the club. While I don't want to back the MC and Simmo, they tend to have favourites as well.
That's your opinion only. Who knows really? You really think a club would let a player play 90 games just because he was a 'favourite' if he was a liability when they are trying at all times to win every game and get to a GF...it's just not rational.
 
Some of them also decided it was a good idea to put Shuey back into the last game as well
That call was also up to Shuey, it's usually/always the players call as well...no-one knew his other leg would go, how can you know that and how often has that happened? It was a calculated risk to seal a game and get the 4 points by grown men who don't spit the dummy and accept the consequences of their choices and actions..that's footy, it's not perfect and never will be.
 
That call was also up to Shuey, it's usually/always the players call as well...no-one knew his other leg would go, how can you know that and how often has that happened? It was a calculated risk to seal a game and get the 4 points by grown men who don't spit the dummy and accept the consequences of their choices and actions..that's footy, it's not perfect and never will be.
I really don't think it's that hard to grasp the point that I'm making that the MC do make mistakes ( to those defending the Ainsworth selection by blindly putting their faith in them), but you seem to be doing a fine job of not understanding it.
 
Not sure why the melts? Kennedy in, Waterman and the next best specialist replacement mid. A kid with half a dozen games. Christ, Masten got 70 games before he played a servicable one.
Masten did win a rising star nom. It's not as if they give them out to Eagles players easily
 

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I really don't think it's that hard to grasp the point that I'm making that the MC do make mistakes ( to those defending the Ainsworth selection by blindly putting their faith in them), but you seem to be doing a fine job of not understanding it.
Conversely, the same argument applies to your lack of understanding that we may have little choice, what's hard to grasp about that?
Besides, it's all a moot point - he's playing, whether we like it or not.
 
Not sure why the melts? Kennedy in, Waterman and the next best specialist replacement mid. A kid with half a dozen games. Christ, Masten got 70 games before he played a servicable one.

Got Brownlow votes in his sixth game, and averaged 20 touches and three tackles a game in his second season, but yeah let’s round that up to 70 games before we got a serviceable performance out of him.
 
Got Brownlow votes in his sixth game, and averaged 20 touches and three tackles a game in his second season, but yeah let’s round that up to 70 games before we got a serviceable performance out of him.
Masten was pretty good when he used to play HFF. He played a role as a wing but it slowly turned into a boring defensive job under Simmo. Go back and watch some finals from 2011/2012 and he seems to be more dynamic.
 
Gee the midfield looks like sh*t on paper
It's not too different on paper than the 2018 finals midfield. Sheed and Redden will spend most of their time in the middle, and there's the possibility that Hutchings will have a role there too (although he's likely to stay forward on Daniel). Then, on paper at least, it's not looking like a massive downgrade.

Out: Lycett, Shuey, Yeo, Masten/Lecca/Willie
In: Naitanui, Gaff, Kelly, XON/Ainsworth/Nelson/Cole

The core is still quality, and we will be getting periods of dominance for sure. There's less experience on our flanks/wings and the worry here will be getting the game back on our terms when there's an inevitable swing the other way. The other difficulty is Sheed and Kelly not in the best form recently. But on paper, I think we're still looking good.

Obviously any team missing two of their best midfielders will look worse (imagine Dogs without both Bont and Macrae: they'd barely win a game if this ever happened).

But our midfield this week will compete hard, and even if we can't match them in the clearances we will beat them on the turnover like many teams have this year.
 
Anyone who thinks people are irrational in the weekly changes thread should check out the club’s Facebook. My word.

Despite the fact he’s having a career best year there’s always people wondering how Nelson is still in the side. Without fail. There’s one bloke who complains every week that Gaff is getting a game. Presumably he’s complained 200 out of the last 208 weeks. Then there’s the rocket surgeons who reckon Jetta always kicks it to the opposition - this is a bloke regarded as one of the best kicks in the comp - and that we should never have traded for him.

(They’re also generally anti-Ainsworth, by the way.)
 
No. No. Masten was not good. In any way, shape or form whatsoever.

We pretty much prayed he might come good, and when he didn't, we called his lack of hardness and defensive effort our "defensive winger". Why? But, he could run! Like footy was track and field and no other skills were required.


Let's not revise history, he was utterly s**t. The efforts of JK saved the Judd deal, masten for a top 3 pick was utterly useless
 
I could be in the minority, but i am very much in favour of duggan starting on the wing, and Jetta on the half back flank.

Jetta in his prime was amazing, but at this point in his career he's a liability on the ball
 
Conversely, the same argument applies to your lack of understanding that we may have little choice, what's hard to grasp about that?
Besides, it's all a moot point - he's playing, whether we like it or not.
Not sure where that was even discussed in any of my posts or any of the posts I responded to.
And your last point is such a cop out "it's a moot point" "that's just football", if that's how we're going to end every discussion then why bother even coming on here to talk about it.
People are annoyed that Ainsworth is in the side because he's not an AFL level player and he's probably not likely to become a serviceable AFL player based off what we've seen for the last few years. Sure he's young and there's a chance he'll improve but I'm really not seeing it, and it seems I'm not alone.
 
I don't blame them so much for picking him (cupboard is bare and Brayshaw isn't the answer, even if I'd pick him first) as I do for them drafting him originally.

If he ends up playing mainly outside may as well have chosen Foley, he can run.

I think this time Xon will be outside more allowing Ainsworth to have a stint in the middle. He has clean hands.
 
No. No. Masten was not good. In any way, shape or form whatsoever.

We pretty much prayed he might come good, and when he didn't, we called his lack of hardness and defensive effort our "defensive winger". Why? But, he could run! Like footy was track and field and no other skills were required.


Let's not revise history, he was utterly sh*t. The efforts of JK saved the Judd deal, masten for a top 3 pick was utterly useless

I agree but they had to play him to save face and justify their pick or maybe to save their job. He was frustrating to watch. Apparently masto was top 3 in most time trials pre season. One of those players who was exceptional in training drills and almost always wet the bed and forgot basic fundamentals come game time.
 
I think this time Xon will be outside more allowing Ainsworth to have a stint in the middle. He has clean hands.
I think the best thing XON has shown thus far is clean hands. He's got other attributes (which is the exciting part) but his ability to generally be a 1 touch player under pressure (or in pressure situations i.e. where there is a split second opportunity to get it to a runner, even if he isn't actually about to get tackled) has stood out.

I certainly hope to see him in centre square and wing starting positions more this week.

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