Religion Ask a Christian - Continued in Part 2

[Chief]

Continued in Part Two:

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/ask-a-christian-part-2.1295001/unread

 

[Total Power]

if Jesus came back today, would he need to quarantine, would he need a passport, a medicare card?

Omnipotence! there is none on display, hence god had to get his hands dirty at everything and still fail at it.

 

[Vdubs]

Omnipotence! there is none at display, hence god had to get his hands dirty at everything and still fail at it.

Free will is impossible if God made us robots.
And with free will came sin.
Sin- departure from God's laws.

 

[Total Power]

Free will is impossible if God made us robots.
And with free will came sin.

Free will is doing something not present in the Bible.

Slavery is not condoned. Hence are sinning already by abolishing slavery.

Well done to the entire mankind!

You wish to own slaves, i don't.

 

[Total Power]

Sin- departure from God's laws.

Completely agree, no rape or genocide, loving your parents, allowing homosexuals to be normal, women as equal, no slavery.

who would want these. Terrible sinners. Lets go back to gods laws like this:

you can start as women must obey their husbands to beating slaves mercilessly, to allow rape of women for blasphemy to stoning of children of disobedience.


Now that is true enlightenment you want us to go back to. Why are the above things bad Vdubs? some are in the NT too ,so not like you can play NT card as well..but your God did all of these, so why are these things bad? are you going to go to your wife and tell her she must obey orelse...?

So we are already sinning, and mankind will not progress without sin. If suck to god's laws, we will be stuck in the dark ages. If you follow OT/NT page by page, you will be in prison every single day of your life. Guaranteed...so much for god's laws.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

But He did.
You can not prove beyond doubt that He did not.

You can not prove beyond doubt he even existed

 

[Total Power]

You can not prove beyond doubt he even existed

Of course he can, 'others told me so'.

 

[Admiral Byng]

You wish to own slaves, i don't.

Just one or two to cook and clean for me would be nice.

 

[Boston tiger]

Just like the Priests who raped kids, you sicko's arrive at "But Mary wanted it, I know deep down she did" as an excuse for rape

Did you need help?

 

[Boston tiger]

I am not blaming you for anything. You keep exaggerating, and it's pathetic, because you know what I believe. Why go off on tangents, why is it so critical that you bring up that isolated quote. I say it again, I believe in the TRINITY. It does not matter about a quote from an article several hundred posts back

You have the patience of Job.

 

[Total Power]

You have the patience of Job.

You can atleast help a struggling mate out instead of sniping at the odd occasion.

 

[Boston tiger]

If God was omnipotent (all-powerful), onmipresent (everywhere) and omniscient (all knowing) as claimed by Christians, why would 'He' have failed to 'bring people to peace in OT days'? If God 'failed', then he cannot be, at the very least, omnipotent (all-powerful) and omniscient (all-knowing).

Didn’t know you were one of those “ if I was God I would have done that “ type of guy.
You need to get back to basics on your concept of God . Start at the start.
For you I’d suggest contemplating free will.

 

[Total Power]

Didn’t know you were one of those “ if I was God I would have done that “ type of guy.
You need to get back to basics on your concept of God . Start at the start.
For you I’d suggest contemplating free will.

Yep totally with you on that one. If i was god i wouldnt have allowed murder of millions of children cause their parents didn't follow the deity seeking attention. If i was God, i would never have commanded stoning of my child for disobedience. If i was God i would have said women are equal to men etc etc

You would i assume agree with everything God said hey?

LOL...biblical morality on display.

So here's a question BT, if you say no to the above, where do you get THAT morality from???

 

[Evolved1]

You know that I believe in the Trinity. Let's leave it there. I believe in the Trinity. God functions as God The Father, the Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. This is a triune God.
Amazing that Jesus would pray to God the Father but more amazing that God was able to send Himself down in human form while He was still God, still omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent. UNIQUE. That is the God we worship. Can't explain it, that is why He is God, and you are you, and I am me.

"Doesn't make sense, so must be true."

C'mon Dubsy, you can do better than that.

 

[Total Power]

"Doesn't make sense, so must be true."

C'mon Dubsy, you can do better than that.

Trinity is not Biblical, but since when did they care about that anyway? they will believe what's told to them by the church fathers.

 

[Total Power]

Geelong is like Christianity, past it's expiry date!

 

[Evolved1]

IF all of us in the world adopted the thought process of WHAT WOULD JESUS DO IN THIS SITUATION, the world would be awesome and peaceful.

How would Jesus have voted in the gay marriage plebiscite?

 

[Total Power]

How would Jesus have voted in the gay marriage plebiscite?

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

BT loves this verse.

 

[Evolved1]

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

BT loves this verse.

I'm a simple man and this is my interpretation. A man who hates his wife and children would vote for gay marriage equality, would he not?

 

[indoistriku]

If God was omnipotent (all-powerful), onmipresent (everywhere) and omniscient (all knowing) as claimed by Christians, why would 'He' have failed to 'bring people to peace in OT days'? If God 'failed', then he cannot be, at the very least, omnipotent (all-powerful) and omniscient (all-knowing).

Why does God's omnipotence, omnipresence and omniscience necessitate His bringing forceful peace to the OT peoples? (And forceful peace is an oxymoron if ever there was one).

 

[Total Power]

"Hmmphh! I know more than all those Biblical scholars and historians combined who for the past 2,000 years have believed in the Trinity! They're all mindless sheep who "believe what the fathers say," and they're not smart or handsome like I am!!"

We had this discussion before, stop embarrassing yourself. Passages including trinity were added in the Bible a lot later on, i replied to you comprehensively previously, you are either a troll or just stupid. There is no mention to trinity till the end of Arian controversy, that is a FACT. But then again you think morality come from God lol@you.

Christian historians and apologists, their opinion means little,do you know what Liberty university and these colleges which specialises in Biblical study state? look up, if scriptures disagree with available 'facts' or sicence, then we believe in scriptures.

But here even you lose, Christian scholars accept, theres no trinity till the NT was compiled.

"The doctrine of the Trinity developed gradually after the completion of the New Testament in the heat of controversy, but the church fathers who developed it believed they were simply exegeting [explaining] divine revelation and not at all speculating or inventing new ideas. The full-blown doctrine of the Trinity was spelled out in the fourth century at two great ecumenical (universal) councils: Nicea (325 A.D.) and Constantinople (381 A.D.)" (2002, pp. 1-2).
https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/is-god-a-trinity/is-the-trinity-biblical (Christian page)

more here

Although early Christian theologians speculated in many ways on the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, no one clearly and fully asserted the doctrine of the Trinity as explained at the top of the main entry until around the end of the so-called Arian Controversy.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/trinity/trinity-history.html



You are YEC anyway. Please dont waste your time replying to me, i had debates with you before, you simply are fundie clueless christian. I can deal with one at a time, not 2.

 

[Evolved1]

Why does God's omnipotence, omnipresence and omniscience necessitate His bringing forceful peace to the OT peoples? (And forceful peace is an oxymoron if ever there was one).

If the one true god showed up in the Middle East, I'm fairly sure Muslims and Jews would be convinced.

I've watched many zombie movies, and people are generally smart enough to back down when they see one. He could have showed up at US airports on 9/11 and I can pretty much guarantee none of those fake god worshipers would have felt brave enough to fly planes into buildings.

 

[Total Power]

If the one true god showed up in the Middle East, I'm fairly sure Muslims and Jews would be convinced.

I've watched many zombie movies, and people are generally smart enough to back down when they see one. He could have showed up at US airports on 9/11 and I can pretty much guarantee none of those fake god worshipers would have felt brave enough to fly planes into buildings.

Careful, he will start with how his island turned into moral **** after conversion into Chrisitianity. Don't engage with him, he is a mental midget.

 

[chelseacarlton]

Jargon, the one that makes the claim carries the burden of proof.
Make your ******* claim for me to destroy!
I love this. I love destroying your claim, over and over again!
Let’s do this!

 

[chelseacarlton]

But He did.
You can not prove beyond doubt that He did not.

“Butt but butt!”.
lol

 

[M Malice]

If god came back would it be black or white, male or female, woke or unwoke, for or against the wall, for or against masks, for or against genital mutilation?