Traded Adam Cerra traded to Carlton for pick #6 and F3

[Turbocat]

This just does not happen.

Name the last time that happened? Where a player went, "The hell with it, I know I've come out publicly and committed to one team but I might just randomly go to the worst team in the league."

Nick Stevens 18 years ago? In fact I can only think of one player that has gone back on the the team that that publicly stated was their preferred destination. That would be Mitch Clark in 2011.

So one example from 10 years ago.

It makes a good Big Footy post though.

Both the destination team and the players original team are motivated to get it done and the pressure does build but not always only in one direction. hawks with O'Meara, Eagles with Kelly and the classic Weller to Gold Coast. The pressure built but it built on the destination team, not the other way around.

The reason it doesnt happen is the current club trades the player out before the deadline. As I said..all the clubs know they do not want the system to collapse. There is give and take ..and like it or not... The club that has the player is the one who will lose out if he does not sign. As soon as player that you want to keep doesnt want to sign an extension , the club is on the back foot.

Freo are luck in that Rich have the picks to get it done and there is pressure on the destination team, but if the deal falls over they are not the side that loses. They keep their picks and move on.

In the end , if a player like Cerrra wants out, and name a club with enough collateral to get the deal done, and a club like Freo are offered something that is reasonable and resembles previous trades.. they will take it and move on.

 

[tiger_tough]

And if you don't satisfy us? We can easily go to Cerra and say look they aint playing ball so you either choose another club or you go to draft where other Melb clubs will defy take you before Richmond

If the only thing that satisfies you is two 1st round picks then be prepared to fell unsatisfied. Everyone bar most freo fans on bigfooty would agree 7 and a 2nd/3rd is fair.

 

[Turbocat]

There's a debate on our Board regarding Tom Green.

Pick 7 & 16 would be about the right price for Green.
Just don't think Cerra is in that same 2 1st category.

If he is OOC, and he says he wants Rich , then 7 and 16 is probably fair. No wants to trade out a Tom green but thats the system. I think Rich would struggle to get both players in.

 

[tiger_tough]

What will your firsts be?

7 and your first, so anything between 13-18 probably.

 

[Turbocat]

7 and your first, so anything between 13-18 probably.

If you guys are back in the flag hunt next year. ... id say Treloar type trade is fair. P7 and Fr1 for Cerra and steak knives... maybe a late R2

 

[WillHayward]

Tigers in the box seat.
Geelong can also get it done if hes interested.
Does he want to go to a side on the slide?

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

If he is OOC, and he says he wants Rich , then 7 and 16 is probably fair. No wants to trade out a Tom green but thats the system. I think Rich would struggle to get both players in.

Nah still contracted until end of 23 i think.Will come to us no doubt if he chooses to leave with the family history etc.
Think getting both is doable,But a few planets would have to line up for it to happen.

 

[AFDogs]

Tigers in the box seat.
Geelong can also get it done if hes interested.
Does he want to a side on the slide?

If I was him I'd be signing for 2 years at Freo. They should play finals next year (if not this year...) and their list is almost ready for a flag tilt I reckon.

 

[Turbocat]

Nah still contracted until end of 23 i think.Will come to us no doubt if he chooses to leave with the family history etc.
Think getting both is doable,But a few planets would have to line up for it to happen.

If he is contracted ...then I think you have ZERO chance of getting Green. ZERO.

 

[Turbocat]

Tigers in the box seat.
Geelong can also get it done if hes interested.
Does he want to a side on the slide?

Who are you saying..is on the slide?

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

So by this logic a Bolton for Cerra is fair?

Straight swap cerra for Bolton seems pretty fair.

I'd say that if I was a Freo supporter. Bolton is better than Cerra. Would be theft by Freo.

 

[Swiggy]

As a freo fan if It’s a top 10 pick Richmond have then think that will be about right. Would be swap of late picks too. But if it’s in teens from will probably want 2 then trade back there 2nd rounder.

 

[Polo342]

There's a debate on our Board regarding Tom Green.

Pick 7 & 16 would be about the right price for Green.
Just don't think Cerra is in that same 2 1st category.

Gee wiz! I actually rate Cerra better than Tom Green. Am I one eyed or do other supporters think so ? :S

 

[Polo342]

Im curious as to why Richmonds 2 first rounders wouldn't be fair for Cerra if we gave our second back?

 

[theGav56]

Does that really happen though? A player picks a team and then those two teams are motivated to do a deal. If Cerra wants to go and IF he picks a teams thats not one of those bottom two teams then it won't have any effect on a deal.

I'd be amazed if a manager/player doesn't get confirmation from a club wanting to trade them in that they have the ability to get a deal done.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Gee wiz! I actually rate Cerra better than Tom Green. Am I one eyed or do other supporters think so ? :S

I think they are different players and both equally as good at their role, I'd personally have them ranked the same. Green is a lot more inside than Cerra. You need both types of mids to have a good team but for whatever reason, Richmond supporters seem to really really value contested ball winning. Probably because Bolton is an excellent outside orientated mid already and their game plan has never really been focused on field kicking as much as others.

At the same time, I think Freo supporters probably dont value the contested ball winning as much as Cerra's kicking because we've had the best contested player in the competition for 8 years and poor skills. Watching Cerra & Mundy kick the footy is like pr0n for us

 

[daniel23]

Im curious as to why Richmonds 2 first rounders wouldn't be fair for Cerra if we gave our second back?

It is. But when you're Victorian watching Fremantle games isn't high on your things to do on a weekend, unless your team is versing them. The off chance they would see him he may be quiet or having an off game, so that makes him average the few times they have actually seen him.

I think he is a good talent maybe not elite but A top player on the list, he isn't your gun inside player but he also isn't shy to win a clearance. On the outside He is a beautiful user and decision maker in space . I'd say there is Similarities to mundy , won't be a 30+ a week mid but more so 25.

 

[Turbocat]

Gee wiz! I actually rate Cerra better than Tom Green. Am I one eyed or do other supporters think so ? :S

Green before Cerra for me..

 

[theyellowsash]

Is 7 and 16 really that bad for Cerra and Pick 30?

yes

 

[Lach72]

There's a debate on our Board regarding Tom Green.

Pick 7 & 16 would be about the right price for Green.
Just don't think Cerra is in that same 2 1st category.

 

[theGav56]

It is. But when you're Victorian watching Fremantle games isn't high on your things to do on a weekend, unless your team is versing them. The off chance they would see him he may be quiet or having an off game, so that makes him average the few times they have actually seen him.

I think he is a good talent maybe not elite but A top player on the list, he isn't your gun inside player but he also isn't shy to win a clearance. On the outside He is a beautiful user and decision maker in space . I'd say there is Similarities to mundy , won't be a 30+ a week mid but more so 25.

Mundy is the better player including this year when he is doing it all while pushing a zimmerframe all over the ground.

 

[theGav56]

yes

no

 

[Bucking Bronco]

I think they are different players and both equally as good at their role, I'd personally have them ranked the same. Green is a lot more inside than Cerra. You need both types of mids to have a good team but for whatever reason, Richmond supporters seem to really really value contested ball winning. Probably because Bolton is an excellent outside orientated mid already and their game plan has never really been focused on field kicking as much as others.

At the same time, I think Freo supporters probably dont value the contested ball winning as much as Cerra's kicking because we've had the best contested player in the competition for 8 years and poor skills. Watching Cerra & Mundy kick the footy is like pr0n for us

They are both players deployed as inside midfielders...

One them, their future lies as being potentially the most dominant contested possession winner in the game's history and a future Brownlow medalist, and the other, a vanilla player with an overrated kick who hopes to become the next Rory Sloane.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

They are both players deployed as inside midfielders...

One them, their future lies as being potentially the most dominant contested possession winner in the game's history and a future Brownlow medalist, and the other, a vanilla player with an overrated kick who hopes to become the next Rory Sloane.

I mean, the fact you compare him to Sloane pretty much sums up what you know about him, I'm not sure I can think of a worse midfield comparison. Thanks for your input though

 

[Wizard]

yes

Serious question, how many Freo games have you actually sat and watched this year

By sat and watched i mean actually watched intently? Not on your phone scrolling twitter and big footy.