Leroy Jetta - A Young Andrew McLeod??

[Merv]

WTF is it with all these clowns from other clubs coming in here and having to make a comment anyway. I hate comparisons , so far Jetta has done ok but thats it. Jetta will be Jetta.
As for all the people invading the baord and putting their two cents worth in. It is an Essendon board where supporters of Essendon come to talk s*** about what ever they want. Some of it may have no credability at all but it is our board and we will spin it whatever way we want

I have no problem with opposition supporters having their say here and i think its actually good, as long as its in good spirits.

I visit many other teams boards, as do many others from here, and generally they are pretty freindly and well informed.

The only problem i have is clowns like in_like_flint and his band of croneys who think they are list assessment specialists that can assess the relevant talent of each clubs list and deem players hacks, duds, etc etc before those players have even played a game.

 

[saladin]

Cam is not the next Jimmy and Cain is only a servicable ruckman, these guys are 196cm tall and would only ever make 2nd ruck in other teams, which is the reason carlton took Hampson ahead of Jetta. Jetta looks great and will be an exciting player for Essendon, but this does not mean that carlton made a mistake in recruiting Hampson. The two players can not be compared as there is 24cm between them. As for Grigg he will be a player and IMO was the next best after Jetta, he was also a good choice . So in a strong draft we both did well.
What is stupid is people sugesting that Carlton made a mistake taking Cameron, Cain, Hampson, this would have left us with no rucks every week.
I would like to know what your stratergy would have been.

all very valid, rational points, bluey. carlton drafted for their needs, as everyone should. had the old priority pick system still been used, carlton would have taken gibbs, then loony - they needed a young ruckman, period, and they got one. well done. sheedy has said that we would have taken gumby and, interestingly, jetta. could be a little bit of propaganda from sheeds, but if not, then we snared our two top wanted youngsters. can't complain about that. we were rapt to get hislop at 20 as well, although i think grigg/hislop could easily have been swapped picks.

my only issue is with the other bloke who came on with his preconceived racial stereotypes and kindly informed us that jetta had no work ethic and would be gone in two years. dead set peanut.

anyway, the thread has wandered from it's inception. the original premise was that jetta moved and ran in mcleod-style, not that he will be as good as mcleod.

 

[GoDons]

Andrew Krakour started well and now is a dud (Lets talk about the current krakour), McLeod, Burgoynes, Wanganeen, Winmar and Goodes are the only exeptions. McAdam wasn't a star, wirrapanda just gets soft ball. Back ten or twenty years ago when these players got picked up the amount of aboriginals playing AFL/VFL was very low because only qulaity was selected. These days, if your an aboriginal and quick you get drafted in some hope that you might turn out like a winmar. Jetta is like betts. Will give you 2 or 3 goals sometimes and then will disappear.

Look at the these players currently in the AFL, very wayward. Not leadership material and can run of the rails when the going gets tough. It all exciting now for jetta playing his first few games, but when things settle down and the excitment for him goes away he will fall away because he doesn't have work ethic. He had a cry when he got drafted by essendon because he loves WA. Remember my words, when he settles down and the excitment of playing AFL goes away he will fall away. H eis just a towel chucker and doesn't work hard enough.

Why was Davey overlooked in a number of drafts? There are reasons for these things. Essendon drafted him at the age of 22. He will also die away. Drafting these days is researched in depth and there must be reasons for the Eagles to overlook a home bread Jetta.

West Coast overlooked Jetta on the simple basis that they need talls, not smalls. The reason Davey was overlooked? Before last year, despite great talent, he hadn't really done anything of great significance and clubs were questioning his commitment. Then the penny dropped and he got himself superfit and played a key role as an attacking midfielder for South Adelaide. That's why it took till he was 22 to get drafted, the penny only dropped when he was 21.

You also seem to have left off a number off star Aboriginals. Do the likes of McLean, Long, Jimmy Krakouer, Kerr etc. mean nothing to you? And you are just fitting stereotypes. I find it incredible how you allude to all of them being exactly the same people just because of their race.

As for why there were so few playing 10 years ago? Simple. People didn't go out into bush communities to find these guys. There were no institutions like the Clontarf Academy. The way Essendon got Michael Long was by Noel Judkins travelling into the Darwin bush.

A very uninformed post by BluesRules.

 

[crows_4_life]

West Coast overlooked Jetta on the simple basis that they need talls, not smalls. The reason Davey was overlooked? Before last year, despite great talent, he hadn't really done anything of great significance and clubs were questioning his commitment. Then the penny dropped and he got himself superfit and played a key role as an attacking midfielder for South Adelaide. That's why it took till he was 22 to get drafted, the penny only dropped when he was 21.

You also seem to have left off a number off star Aboriginals. Do the likes of McLean, Long, Jimmy Krakouer, Kerr etc. mean nothing to you? And you are just fitting stereotypes. I find it incredible how you allude to all of them being exactly the same people just because of their race.

As for why there were so few playing 10 years ago? Simple. People didn't go out into bush communities to find these guys. There were no institutions like the Clontarf Academy. The way Essendon got Michael Long was by Noel Judkins travelling into the Darwin bush.

A very uninformed post by BluesRules.

very correct with the alwyn davey comment, he was very good in 2005 and 2006 was his breakout year in the SANFL guiding sth adelaide to their first finals appearance in something like 15 years.
most people here were under the impression that he would be going to adelaide or port,
this was my thoughts aswel, but we picked tippett before him at 32, thinking he would still be there, but the bombers were obviously aware of his talents and snapped him up quicksmart at 36.
i was dissapointed to not get him, but we need KPP and thats what we got.

 

[CrazyQ]

Some bullshyte comments here.

I went to a game last year, when Jettas footy team came over, he was with a mate and I walked up to him to have a chat.

Said he didnt mind moving and was excited to play in Melbourne if he got drafted.

He was actually surprised people knew him.

Absolute gun you guys have.

No Lindsay Thomas though

 

[Silvagnis]

The only problem i have is clowns like in_like_flint and his band of croneys who think they are list assessment specialists that can assess the relevant talent of each clubs list and deem players hacks, duds, etc etc before those players have even played a game.

Where did I say your draftees were duds?

I said we have more quality kids coming through and that's understandable after finishing in the bottom four times since 2001. I said Hampson has more potential and upside in response to the troll that we let Jetta slip to Essendon.

16 clubs let Jetta "slip".

To answer the question put to me earlier in this thread, Hampson beat Cameron Wood in a match last year.

 

[jonesy86]

a young adrian mcadam?


with the kids you just never know, take a look at what McGough showed in his first 2 games

 

[GoDons]

very correct with the alwyn davey comment, he was very good in 2005 and 2006 was his breakout year in the SANFL guiding sth adelaide to their first finals appearance in something like 15 years.
most people here were under the impression that he would be going to adelaide or port,
this was my thoughts aswel, but we picked tippett before him at 32, thinking he would still be there, but the bombers were obviously aware of his talents and snapped him up quicksmart at 36.
i was dissapointed to not get him, but we need KPP and thats what we got.

Yeah, Essendon surprised a lot of people taking him that early. The general consensus was that he would slip to about the 70s but i guess Essendon knew they wanted him and didn't want to risk not getting him.

 

[GoDons]

a young adrian mcadam?


with the kids you just never know, take a look at what McGough showed in his first 2 games

Certainly, McGough showed a lot. However, he had a clear deficency in his game, that being pace. At the moment, Leroy doesn't have any clear deficancies and really could be anything. How far he goes comes down to how right his mind is, with McGough it came down to how much he could stop his lack of pace being exploited.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

sorry to hijack your thread bombers fans, but i just wanna put something out to this bloke.

ok WTF has wells done in his career??? bugger all if you look at it, alot people say careys recruitment was a waste of time.... but what you fail to realise is he contributed well in those 2 years, one game against carlton at optus oval springs to mind (vintage carey)
and his offield nous got hentschel, bock, rutten were they are today.
trent hentschel and ben rutten both acknowledged this!!


p.s. leroy jetta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>eddie betts

LOL ... You think Daniel Wells wouldn't be a welcome addition to the Adelaide side ?

I think you're overrating AFC and their playing list.

Whats even more funny, is that you're trying to justify swapping Carey for Wells on the basis of one game against Carlton in a season were we finished 2nd last, and "decent contributions over 2 years". Laughable.

You sir are a clown.

an 18 year old Daniel Wells adds a lot more than a 31 year old Wayne Carey in terms of building a team.

 

[kilaw]

I know he probably won't read this but this sort of pressure is the last thing this boy needs. I've seen him play and I have to say I am quite impressed. It's too early to start comparing though, give him a year or two at least.

West Coast did well in over-looking Jetta, the last thing we need is another midfielder, and Mitch Brown has already shown some promise at CHF. Plus, Mitch brown > Jetta any day of the week

In_Like_Flint, you should probably cool it, no one is saying Carlton picked the wrong boy. Let the bombers fans marvel at their young talent, its very exciting to see the future of the club play so well.

 

[crows_4_life]

LOL ... You think Daniel Wells wouldn't be a welcome addition to the Adelaide side ?

I think you're overrating AFC and their playing list.

Whats even more funny, is that you're trying to justify swapping Carey for Wells on the basis of one game against Carlton in a season were we finished 2nd last, and "decent contributions over 2 years". Laughable.

You sir are a clown.

an 18 year old Daniel Wells adds a lot more than a 31 year old Wayne Carey in terms of building a team.

no doubt id like wells, but at the time carey was what we needed a KPP ready made, and we had a chance to get wells but at the time it was no.4 draft pick not no.2 and as far as i can remember that wasnt a particuarly strong draft.
when we gave the roos our pick for carey it was no.4 not no.2 and im sure if it we had known this we wouldnt have traded it away!

and as i stated earlier, careys offield nous helped develop our youngsters

hentschel >>>>>>> waite
rutten >>>>>>>> o'hailpin
bock>>>>>>>> kennedy

i think some bombers fans would agree with the above comparisons

 

[mcphee_is_a_gun]

Take your bitching elsewhere, we couldnt give a ****.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

and as i stated earlier, careys offield nous helped develop our youngsters

hentschel >>>>>>> waite
rutten >>>>>>>> o'hailpin
bock>>>>>>>> kennedy

i think some bombers fans would agree with the above comparisons

LOL ...

You're comparing Rutten with an Irish player who's been in the system for 3-4 years and is continously improving despite having only played 7 games at Full Back, Great comparison that one .

Hentschel vs. Waite = I'd rather have Waite, he's athletic, he's tall, can take a grab, and he's extremely versatile with great agillity. His only problem is consistancy and at times his decision making, that aside, i'd take him over Hentschel.

Nathan Bock is 24 and you compare him to an 18 year old Josh Kennedy

I think if you asked Bomber fans who'd theyd rather have on their list for the future - you'd find most of them would take Josh Kennedy, despite the fact they already have Gumbleton.

So do you honestly think Pick #4/#2 in what you deemed was a weak draft was worth it for 2 years and helped "develop" your youngsters ... because I dont

FYI: The Crows could have had;

Wells, Brennan, McVeigh, Salopek, Mackie, McIntosh, Shultz.

I'd take all of the above mentioned over 2 years of an aging, slow, injury prone Carey ... oh yeah ... and "developmen" of KPP players

 

[ant555]

FFS when did this turn into and Andelaide v Carlton board F*** off to bay 13.....

 

[crows_4_life]

hey i more than agree this thread is about leroy jetta, i dont come here to troll the other bloke did so i did what any supporter does: stick up for your team,

yet i do understand your frustrations, tell the carlton knobs this im sure you will get some smart arse response

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

FFS when did this turn into and Andelaide v Carlton board F*** off to bay 13.....

My duty is to expose "Nuff Nuff" Supporters.

Regardless of what board it is.

 

[crows_4_life]

My duty is to expose "Nuff Nuff" Supporters.

Regardless of what board it is.

nuff nuff my arse...

just because everyone doesnt agree with you doesnt make them nuff nuff, about time you took off those navy blue and white glasses

 

[Shane Hird]

To see first hand the now famous "Mum and Dad" tatoos on Jetta's forearms.......... ..he must love his folks alot.

 

[hulld]

hopefully he doesn't miss them too much

 

[Shane Hird]

hopefully he doesn't miss them too much

They live with him here...they moved over with the young leroy

 

[hulld]

oh. that's great news. thanks for that

 

[Shane Hird]

Took some great shots of Jetta when he came to the fence and signed autographs. To see him close up and realise how small he really is,is a bit of a shock. But Jesus he looked quick running in the drills.

 

[whirl]

My duty is to expose "Nuff Nuff" Supporters.

Regardless of what board it is.

And you're doing a fine job of exposing yourself. I doubt there's a poster on this whole forum who isn't aware of your nuff nuff status.

 

[crows_4_life]

And you're doing a fine job of exposing yourself. I doubt there's a poster on this whole forum who isn't aware of your nuff nuff status.

agreed