List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

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Continued in Part III

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

I know he can go wherever he wants but while he is still listed, can he go to X club without them handing over a pick?

The destination club doesn’t ‘hand over’ a pick.

Surely you know how FA works by now?


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[CaptainRisky]

that's the thing. I think Heath could play the Luke Jackson role next year. Not full ruck but play forward and just help out for a bit each quarter

I think you need to keep your hopes in check , they were drafted at different drafts for a reason , not saying heath wont make it though

 

[Mowman]

Just send me a PM and i will fill you in

 

[Veer Right]

That’s how free agency works

You didn't answer my question. As far as i can tell the difference between restricted vs free agent is, the restricted player can have their offer matched by the original club while a free agent can move freely for whatever contract they are happy with while the original club cannot match. I see no mention of draft picks hence my question.

If he can only move at this point in time if the saints agree to a draft pick, why would ANY team do a trade now?

 

[Remboy]

He’s an unrestricted free agent. If he was genuinely in demand, a club would add him their list right now.

Yep, clubs don't even want to give him a spot on their main it seems the only interest is getting him as a rookie, and even that appears limited to one club.
It's a shame because he's shown that at his best he is a decent player.

 

[bird_man]

I know he can go wherever he wants but while he is still listed, can he go to X club without them handing over a pick?

Yes, that is what an unrestricted free agent means

 

[bird_man]

You didn't answer my question. As far as i can tell the difference between restricted vs free agent is, the restricted player can have their offer matched by the original club while a free agent can move freely for whatever contract they are happy with while the original club cannot match. I see no mention of draft picks hence my question.

If he can only move at this point in time if the saints agree to a draft pick, why would ANY team do a trade now?

No one has to trade.

He is an unrestresticted free agent.

If a club wants him they offer him a contract and if he agrees he goes straight onto their list.

No handing over a pick.

 

[Remboy]

You didn't answer my question. As far as i can tell the difference between restricted vs free agent is, the restricted player can have their offer matched by the original club while a free agent can move freely for whatever contract they are happy with while the original club cannot match. I see no mention of draft picks hence my question.

If he can only move at this point in time if the saints agree to a draft pick, why would ANY team do a trade now?

As a restricted free agent he can sign with another club and the Saints can choose to match the offer. In this case though, the Saints have said they won't be offering him a new deal, so other clubs already know we won't be matching any offer made for him. Any club that wants him can have him for nothing now.

 

[_Maximus_12]

You didn't answer my question. As far as i can tell the difference between restricted vs free agent is, the restricted player can have their offer matched by the original club while a free agent can move freely for whatever contract they are happy with while the original club cannot match. I see no mention of draft picks hence my question.

If he can only move at this point in time if the saints agree to a draft pick, why would ANY team do a trade now?

He’s an unrestricted free agent meaning he can move irrespective of whether we agree to him leaving or not.

 

[JediSaint]

that's the thing. I think Heath could play the Luke Jackson role next year. Not full ruck but play forward and just help out for a bit each quarter

If that was the case then Ladhams would be a target

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

I think you need to keep your hopes in check , they were drafted at different drafts for a reason , not say heath wont make it though

have to agree to disappear here. He was drafted before Sharman in the MSD and Sharman is looking to cement a permanent spot in the forward line in the next preseason

 

[Rors]

Just send me a PM and i will fill you in

Battle Richmond

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

If that was the case then Ladhams would be a target

I think Heath would be the Luke Jackson role 2022 with ideally Paddy playing most and Marshall his usual role. Anytime Paddy can't play Ro goes full ruck and Heath moves into Marshall's role. 2023 onwards its Ro and Heath duo

 

[_Maximus_12]

Veer Right for your reference

Free Agency - AFL.com.au

Australian Football League. All the latest AFL news, video, results and information

www.afl.com.au

 

[Mowman]

Battle Richmond

Just thought I would help the Saints out and let them know what their about to do

 

[JediSaint]

So pick 19 is still available.

Herald Sun - Don’t reckon McPherson will get to the Roos. But pick 19 could still be up for grabs even if the Suns-Roos deal doesn’t get done.

 

[BrutThough]

have to agree to disappear here. He was drafted before Sharman in the MSD and Sharman is looking to cement a permanent spot in the forward line in the next preseason

Have you ever watched Heath play? Or is this 'he's our Jackson' some continual shit posting that's going over a lot of heads?

He could turn out to be a very good ruckman but it will take time. He was looked in his first draft for a reason while Jackson went pick 3 for a reason.

And Sharman has nothing to do with Heath, especially when the club itself has said Sharman exceeded every expectation they had.

 

[StCicatriz]

Have you ever watched Heath play? Or is this 'he's our Jackson' some continual sh*t posting that's going over a lot of heads?

He could turn out to be a very good ruckman but it will take time. He was looked in his first draft for a reason while Jackson went pick 3 for a reason.

And Sharman has nothing to do with Heath, especially when the club itself has said Sharman exceeded every expectation they had.

i think Heath and Jackson are two completely different players. it'd be like comparing Sean Darcy with Nic Nat

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Have you ever watched Heath play? Or is this 'he's our Jackson' some continual sh*t posting that's going over a lot of heads?

He could turn out to be a very good ruckman but it will take time. He was looked in his first draft for a reason while Jackson went pick 3 for a reason.

And Sharman has nothing to do with Heath, especially when the club itself has said Sharman exceeded every expectation they had.

Max-imum effort as a Heath wave arrives at the Saints

St Kilda's mid-season rookie draft pick Max Heath is anything but affable on the field.

www.aflplayers.com.au

Mostly based on his physical attributes, the highlights package from the club and the way he describes himself. Extremely physical, second efforts after the ruck contest, loves tackling. At one point he said the player he models his game around is Rowan Marshall.

 

[kernelT]

Yes, that is what an unrestricted free agent means

 

[CaptainRisky]

Have you ever watched Heath play? Or is this 'he's our Jackson' some continual sh*t posting that's going over a lot of heads?

He could turn out to be a very good ruckman but it will take time. He was looked in his first draft for a reason while Jackson went pick 3 for a reason.

And Sharman has nothing to do with Heath, especially when the club itself has said Sharman exceeded every expectation they had.

Thank you

 

[SaintsSeptember]

have to agree to disappear here. He was drafted before Sharman in the MSD and Sharman is looking to cement a permanent spot in the forward line in the next preseason

Wow different players always develop the same after drafting?

 

[CaptainRisky]

Max-imum effort as a Heath wave arrives at the Saints

St Kilda's mid-season rookie draft pick Max Heath is anything but affable on the field.

www.aflplayers.com.au

Mostly based on his physical attributes, the highlights package from the club and the way he describes himself. Extremely physical, second efforts after the ruck contest, loves tackling. At one point he said the player he models his game around is Rowan Marshall.

He is playing against kids , not grown men OMG

 

[puppy_dog7]

No to drafting Mac Andrew unless there are literally no decent mids at our pick, and if that’s the case I’d go for Gibcus instead.

More of a fan for Sweet over Xerri. He came in this year for the dogs and got quite the praise at AFL level. If my memory is correct, he didn’t play finals as Doggies preferred Stef Martin as that’s what they brought him in for. 23 years old and should be cheap, perfect for us. It would be Flynn or Sweet for me.

That being said, I’m pretty optimistic for Heath as well. Wonder how high he would’ve gone if he was in the national draft and actually got to play some games.

Yep, i like the look of Sweet. Big man that isn't afraid to throw his weight around, but at the same time still looks atheltic and skilled enough.

Also played with Wilkie at North Adelaide

 

[snails13]

Problem is, Dunstan doesn’t want to be depth.

Problem for Dunstan is he may need to take what's on offer.
Essendon and Gold Coast look to be the 2 clubs interested
Is he best 22 at Essendon?
Gold Coast will likely offer him a Rookie Spot? Yet most likely be the team he gets most games at
Interesting to see what eventuates !