List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[_Maximus_12]

On SEN this morning one of the commentators was saying that clubs aren't chasing inside mids any more with most after run and spread midfielders who are the fashion at the moment. Apparently the classy running mids are the ones everyone wants now. Timing doesn't seem on Lukes side and possibly why Seb Ross was retained over Luke. Luke had a better run of games but Seb has run.

For sure. Seb also has greater versatility than Dunstan who is a midfielder or bust type of guy.
I can’t see him being any more than depth at any club he goes to unfortunately

 

[11men1cup]

FFS mate, answer your messages would ya!

They're from all my fans wanting to know the inside scoop that I definitely have.

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[BrutThough]

On SEN this morning one of the commentators was saying that clubs aren't chasing inside mids any more with most after run and spread midfielders who are the fashion at the moment. Apparently the classy running mids are the ones everyone wants now. Timing doesn't seem on Lukes side and possibly why Seb Ross was retained over Luke. Luke had a better run of games but Seb has run.

Ross also has his entire career of consistently good seasons over Dunstan too.

I feel for Dunstan. He is too good to not be on an AFL list. Hopefully he can get at least a rookie spot somewhere else.

 

[gringo2011]

His top speed’s nothing special but I think he’s pretty quick off the mark. And due to his play style he only needs the metre or 2 of free space to get his kick off

He can definitely arch his back and power away and when he was more a small HFF at the start of his career he'd power away from trouble and swat away hands that turned into his famous don't argue.

 

[Remboy]

Yes I agree he is very very sh*t.. BUT it would be quite interesting to see a forward line with both Max King and Mason Cox in it haha. Just based on height/wingspan/the ability to mark the ball at its highest point would surely be unstoppable for some of the games best defenders [emoji23][emoji23]

Wait until Ben King is added in there

 

[lewdogs]

I remember reading about Xerri dominating in the VFL earlier in the year.

 

[Remboy]

Be an interesting 1. With our NGA's, Clark, Bytel and Byrnes with Gresh coming back the club may not think we need mids as much as we do. Mac does look like he could become a gun ruck forward. Club would have a better idea tho on how they rate Heath who is also looking good.

I'm not sure we'd want two rookie ruckman on the list at the same time.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

If we are chasing King I'll throw my laptop out a window if we take another tall with our first pick in the draft. In a midfielders draft you'd need to be mentally deficient to step out of those. I'm hoping GC or GWS take the talls out of our reach. Talls... especially ones that aren't quite KP sized seem to be our new HBFs.

Laptop eh? Impressive.

You’ve come a long day since the meltdown of 2014 [emoji1303]

 

[prophetic1]

I wish we'd just do a trade so we didn't have to talk about Dunny being better than Wines, Billings having similar stats to Petracca and whether we should have picked Petracca over Paddy

Agreed ! I understand wanting to learn from the Dees and learning from the Tiges, but wanting to clone players like the Petracca,Oliver et al gets a lot like all the girls wanting to have Barbie like bodies until one just comes along defying all the cliches and blows everyone away. I'm looking forward to when we stop coveting other teams players, styles and decisions and just become the unmatchable, unstoppable and devastatingly original, SAINTS. I guess its all just part of the process to the ultimate realization dawns...We have it in our own hands, we do it with what we've got....aside from the obvious tweaks that we all agonise over! ha!

 

[puppy_dog7]

Rendell reckons SPS is worth more than pick 29?!!

 

[bird_man]

I remember reading about Xerri dominating in the VFL earlier in the year.

Out of his 6 VFL games he was named Norths best on ground twice and 2nd best another time.

The last best on ground he had 36 disposals.

 

[AaronSCHQ]

Like your line of thinking.. So if no Bing, Marshall eventually moves permanent forward. Heath becomes No.1 ruck in say 2-3 years time (with chop out from Marshall).

Maybe we should have a go at Mac Andrew in the draft this year who would be a great fit in this scenario in 2-3 years time playing as 2nd Ruck/Forward with Heath. Andrew is a chance to be available at our pick and if there's no pure mids like Ward/Hobbs available Id rather see us go with Andrew than another flanker in the first round.

Could be the risk we need to take. Still get Bing at some point though..ha

I suppose so. I still see Marshall as a better forward than ruck. But if we get Bing, I struggle to see Marshall, King x 2 all together. But I might be wrong. In that instance though, I see Marshall moving to 80% ruck chop out from the King boys.

But this is just an outside perspective. Heath and Xerri/Sweet give us two cracks at a permanent ruck, but if we get Bing we can work it out down the track. Which is why I don't agree Hunter is a better option than Sweet/Xerri. They're just an option for the future and back up next year if needed.

 

[hangdog]

Like your line of thinking.. So if no Bing, Marshall eventually moves permanent forward. Heath becomes No.1 ruck in say 2-3 years time (with chop out from Marshall).

Maybe we should have a go at Mac Andrew in the draft this year who would be a great fit in this scenario in 2-3 years time playing as 2nd Ruck/Forward with Heath. Andrew is a chance to be available at our pick and if there's no pure mids like Ward/Hobbs available Id rather see us go with Andrew than another flanker in the first round.

Could be the risk we need to take. Still get Bing at some point though..ha

Word is the Giants are very interested in him.

 

[Joffaboy]

I think we are sweet on more than one ruckman, we better hurry or they may be long gone.

 

[kernelT]

Ross also has his entire career of consistently good seasons over Dunstan too.

I feel for Dunstan. He is too good to not be on an AFL list. Hopefully he can get at least a rookie spot somewhere else.

He could easily make a top 5 B&F next year at a few clubs if he played like he did when he returned this year.

 

[AaronSCHQ]

Like your line of thinking.. So if no Bing, Marshall eventually moves permanent forward. Heath becomes No.1 ruck in say 2-3 years time (with chop out from Marshall).

Maybe we should have a go at Mac Andrew in the draft this year who would be a great fit in this scenario in 2-3 years time playing as 2nd Ruck/Forward with Heath. Andrew is a chance to be available at our pick and if there's no pure mids like Ward/Hobbs available Id rather see us go with Andrew than another flanker in the first round.

Could be the risk we need to take. Still get Bing at some point though..ha

Not sure they'll use our first pick on a ruck/fwd if we are definitely targetting Bing, already have Marshall and have hopes for Max Heath. Depends how they rate the chances of getting Bing in or Heath becoming a good ruck.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Similar stats... Xerri 6 years younger. Also, don't quote me on this but I believe when Xerri has been in, he's started forward a lot (despite not kicking many goals).

In every one of Xerri’s 8 games this year Goldstein also played and did what looks like the vast majority of the ruckwork.

Whereas Hunter was our no.1 ruck in the first 3 of his 7 games with us (with McKernan and Carlisle second-fiddle) and then in his last game he split it with Roma (14 centre bounce attendances to 13).

 

[Veer Right]

I'd rather sweet but genuinely have never seen this guy play. View attachment 1253265

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Not sure i like this as Xerri has low numbers in his seniors games this year and a huge clanger count to disposal ratio.

 

[hangdog]

Out of his 6 VFL games he was named Norths best on ground twice and 2nd best another time.

The last best on ground he had 36 disposals.

North rate him internally but not sure that's saying much

 

[aussierulesrules]

Our of curiosity would you say Dusty is one paced?

I’d say he is, he’s just strong in the contest and can go forward and kick goals. I see Hobbs as being a similar type player (obviously not as powerful as Dusty) but better defensively.

Hell no, he has power and explosiveness.

Tested 2nd fastest at his draft camp/combine, including faster than speedsters Rohan and Jetta:

20-meter sprint (seconds)
1. Ayden Kennedy 2.88
2. Dustin Martin 2.89
3. Andrew Hooper 2.90
4. Sam Reid 2.92
=5. Sam Shaw 2.93
=5. Kane Lucas
=5. Gary Rohan
=8. Lewis Jetta 2.95

 

[joydivision22]

Not sure they'll use our first pick on a ruck/fwd if we are definitely targetting Bing, already have Marshall and have hopes for Max Heath. Depends how they rate the chances of getting Bing in or Heath becoming a good ruck.

Yeah for sure, this idea was based on us not getting Bing.

In the event that we're supremely confidant we can secure him for 23', then I'd be alright with:

- Xerri for future 4th Rd
- Delist poor old punter,
- Best Midfielder at #9 (11) and
- Try to secure another pick around 18 (20) to take another decent prospect (Draper, Milera, Butler, Sinn etc)
- Secure enough points via depth player trades for NGA bids.

The more I think about the happier I am to let Battle go if it nets a decent pick. He's just so far back now and actually doesn't have that many runs on the board. I'd like to keep Long personally, unless we get a top 30 pick.

 

[JediSaint]

St Kilda are set to land a deal for North Melbourne ruckman Tristan Xerri

38

Tristan Xerri

Age

26

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

5.5

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.5

2star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

2.5

5star

D

5.5

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.5

2star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

2.5

5star

D

5.5

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.5

3star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

2.5

5star

.
- Tom Browne, Channel 7

 

[AaronSCHQ]

Yeah for sure, this idea was based on us not getting Bing.

In the event that we're supremely confidant we can secure him for 23', then I'd be alright with:

- Xerri for future 4th Rd
- Delist poor old punter,
- Best Midfielder at #9 (11) and
- Try to secure another pick around 18 (20) to take another decent prospect (Draper, Milera, Butler, Sinn etc)
- Secure enough points via depth player trades for NGA bids.

The more I think about the happier I am to let Battle go if it nets a decent pick. He's just so far back now and actually doesn't have that many runs on the board. I'd like to keep Long personally, unless we get a top 30 pick.

That all sounds pretty fair. I am by no means thinking Xerri is a star, and Hunter might a better option next year. But ideally it's Ryder and Marshall next year. Even Marshall solo when Ryder is resting. We just really got smacked this year when Marshall and Ryder were both out. Just feel Xerri is a better fit on our list right now.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Yes I agree he is very very sh*t.. BUT it would be quite interesting to see a forward line with both Max King and Mason Cox in it haha. Just based on height/wingspan/the ability to mark the ball at its highest point would surely be unstoppable for some of the games best defenders [emoji23][emoji23]

You mean with arms fully extended , the commentator that came up with that stupid term needs to be bitch slapped , never seen a player jump 20 mtrs high yet

 

[gringo2011]

Not sure i like this as Xerri has low numbers in his seniors games this year and a huge clanger count to disposal ratio.

He was playing with Goldy doing ruck work. I heard some North supporters talking about this "Cherry" guy who was a promising ruck and worked out it was him. They have big wraps on him. One was suggesting that keeping Goldy was a mistake because Xerri has more long term upside and they were talking like he was a future star.