Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 4.

[Holden Hillbilly]

NSW records 270 new Covid cases and three deaths.
Victoria 1,268 new cases and 7 deaths.

 

[PowerBaz]

I ****ing hate that guy. The perfect representation of everything that's wrong with politics.

He’s in it for the $ and perks of the job.

The Liberal party hey… ‘not my fault, nothing to see here’…..

 

[Chewy316]

Paragraph 1: housing prices are impossible on a single income

Paragraph 2: people who complain about house prices are yuppies

You just spent one paragraph saying it's a valid issue then in the second did the usual boring thing and deciding to stick the boot into young people for saying housing prices are an issue.

No, what I said was that it's bloody hard to get into the housing market, and even if you want to move into the middle of no where it's still very difficult. But these young 20 year olds complaining that they can't afford to live 1 suburb away from the CBD, that is just ridiculous. I would challenge any assertion that the first house one buys is in a terrific location with close proximity to the cbd, and would also suggest that the odds of it being a "forever home" are slim to none.

I'm not denying that getting into the market is difficult, but this idea that you've got people in their 20s complaining they can't buy in a prime area for their first home, that's just ridiculous.

 

[joyful]

With a bit of trepidation I’ll share my story.
I did everything ‘right’: went to a good school, always employed, bought a house (instead of wasting my money on avocado toast ), fell in love and decided to get married.
Due to the nature of my husbands employment we decided that his career would be the priority and we would have a more ‘traditional’ marriage so I quit my job, sold my unit and moved around the country with him.
I worked at the beginning of the marriage until we decided to have children, at which point I became a stay at home mum, (we could afford this without government assistance).
I was a stay at home mum to a toddler and pregnant with number 2 when he informed me that as soon as the baby was born he would be leaving us and moving to another state with the woman he was having an affair with.
I arrived back home in Adelaide as a welfare dependent single mother with a newborn and a toddler.
I was incredibly blessed, thanks to welfare and homestart I was able to use my share of our savings to purchase a house, paying much less on a mortgage than I would have on rent. I was also blessed to have healthy children and be healthy and very capable myself so was able to live a modest but comfortable life on welfare.
Welfare enabled me to raise my babies and retrain to secure a decent career that gives me the ability to provide for my children financially as well as being there for them physically.
I am so incredibly grateful that I live in a country where this support is available and shudder to think of what myself and my children would have had to endure if we lived in other parts of the world.
There are always going to be those that rort any system, and I’m happy to accept that if it means people like me can get help in their time of need.

Anyone remember the $5k bonus for having kids.... The amount of big screen TVs what got sold in those days lmfao... Or worse..

The 5k going towards heroin... Weed... Ice...

I bought a fridge and installed heating with mine

 

[Del165198]

No, what I said was that it's bloody hard to get into the housing market, and even if you want to move into the middle of no where it's still very difficult. But these young 20 year olds complaining that they can't afford to live 1 suburb away from the CBD, that is just ridiculous. I would challenge any assertion that the first house one buys is in a terrific location with close proximity to the cbd, and would also suggest that the odds of it being a "forever home" are slim to none.

I'm not denying that getting into the market is difficult, but this idea that you've got people in their 20s complaining they can't buy in a prime area for their first home, that's just ridiculous.

I don't think that's the attitude of most to be honest. I'm in my late 30s now but for most of my life I'd resigned myself to never owning a house. Ending up getting one this year but it's only affordable as I live in a small town.
I think most 20 somethings can't even contemplate entering the property market arm.

 

[joyful]

If there is any good news after this afternoon's terrible news it is that South Australians will be able to book a booster shot after December 1.

A side issue...

My son has sole custody of his three children, which must say something about his ex partner. My son is keen to get the two eldest vaccinated against COVID. His former partner is an evangelical idiot who does not hold with vaccination. She actually told my 16 year old grand daughter that if she was vaccinated she would turn into a butterfly in 3 years!!! fu** what an idiot. Luckily my son has full custody and my 16 year old grand daughter has not fallen for this sh*te and is booked in for her first COVID jab tomorrow. I hope everything goes well.

This highlights an interesting situation where kids are shared between separated parents and one parent is an anti vaxxer. Where two parents are fighting for custody you would hope that one of them refusing to allow a child to be vaccinated against COVID would hold some sway with the judge. Then again family courts are geared in a certain direction.

Luckily at 16 kids can get their own Medicare card and make their own medical bookings here, so if they want to get vaccinated they don’t need approval from their parents.
I have heard some interesting stories from the US (where else ) about anti vax parents making emergency court applications against the other parent after they suggest getting the kids vaccinated, claiming neglect and abuse.

 

[OneGreatClub]

No, what I said was that it's bloody hard to get into the housing market, and even if you want to move into the middle of no where it's still very difficult. But these young 20 year olds complaining that they can't afford to live 1 suburb away from the CBD, that is just ridiculous. I would challenge any assertion that the first house one buys is in a terrific location with close proximity to the cbd, and would also suggest that the odds of it being a "forever home" are slim to none.

I'm not denying that getting into the market is difficult, but this idea that you've got people in their 20s complaining they can't buy in a prime area for their first home, that's just ridiculous.

Some truth in this.
My parent’s generation:
My in laws lived in a car crate on a block until they paid off their small piece of land, then made their own bricks and built their own modest house with the help of neighbours, they helped each other.

My generation:
We lived in a very average house in Western suburbs with second hand furniture for years before being able to afford a second improved dwelling. Neither of us had parents in a financial situation to help us, in fact we helped them.

Our son:
We have offered to help our son get established but he wants a freestanding place in the CBD or surrounds, not willing to try to purchase something further out to get his foot in the door. He also doesn’t want to give up his lifestyle of going out several nights a week. He bemoans the fact that he doesn’t own a home though. He really pisses me off at times with his attitude. A lot of them have very high expectaions.

Also the casualisation pf the workforce makes it hard for the young ones to have the security to get a loan.

It’s a mixed bag and a generalisation but they seem to have higher expectationso than we did.

Those without good secure jobs or parental help will find it very difficult or need to live at home for a few years to save up.
Our daughter and her partner did that.

 

[Del165198]

Some truth in this.
My parent’s generation:
My in laws lived in a car crate on a block until they paid off their small piece of land, then made their own bricks and built their own modest house with the help of neighbours, they helped each other.

My generation:
We lived in a very average house in Western suburbs with second hand furniture for years before being able to afford a second improved dwelling. Neither of us had parents in a financial situation to help us, in fact we helped them.

Our son:
We have offered to help our son get established but he wants a freestanding place in the CBD or surrounds, not willing to try to purchase something further out to get his foot in the door. He also doesn’t want to give up his lifestyle of going out several nights a week. He really pisses me off at times with his attitude. A lot of them have very high expectaions.
Also the casualisation pf the workforce makes it hard for the young ones to have the security to get a loan.

It’s a mixed bag and a generalisation but they seem to have higher expectationso than we did.

Those without good secure jobs or parental help will find it very difficult or need to live at home for a few years to save up.
Our daughter and her partner did that.

great, doesnt change the fact that an average wage used to give you enough money to actually buy a house. that ratio has gone up 400% since 1970.

 

[OneGreatClub]

great, doesnt change the fact that an average wage used to give you enough money to actually buy a house. that ratio has gone up 400% since 1970.

Agree with that. As I said the casualisation of the workforce has ruined the prospects for a lot of this generation.
Still, in our case, we could have assisted our son if he was willing to meet us half way, but he wasn’t.
Even if they start with a small unit, it is a start.

 

[Marat]

With a bit of trepidation I’ll share my story.
I did everything ‘right’: went to a good school, always employed, bought a house (instead of wasting my money on avocado toast ), fell in love and decided to get married.
Due to the nature of my husbands employment we decided that his career would be the priority and we would have a more ‘traditional’ marriage so I quit my job, sold my unit and moved around the country with him.
I worked at the beginning of the marriage until we decided to have children, at which point I became a stay at home mum, (we could afford this without government assistance).
I was a stay at home mum to a toddler and pregnant with number 2 when he informed me that as soon as the baby was born he would be leaving us and moving to another state with the woman he was having an affair with.
I arrived back home in Adelaide as a welfare dependent single mother with a newborn and a toddler.
I was incredibly blessed, thanks to welfare and homestart I was able to use my share of our savings to purchase a house, paying much less on a mortgage than I would have on rent. I was also blessed to have healthy children and be healthy and very capable myself so was able to live a modest but comfortable life on welfare.
Welfare enabled me to raise my babies and retrain to secure a decent career that gives me the ability to provide for my children financially as well as being there for them physically.
I am so incredibly grateful that I live in a country where this support is available and shudder to think of what myself and my children would have had to endure if we lived in other parts of the world.
There are always going to be those that rort any system, and I’m happy to accept that if it means people like me can get help in their time of need.



I bought a fridge and installed heating with mine

So where was your husband in all of this - content that other people work hard to pay to raise his children?

 

[OneGreatClub]

So where was your husband in all of this - content that other people work hard to pay to raise his children?

What a weird question to ask her.

 

[TeeKray]

Dogecoin and Shiba Inu have a combined market cap of 64 billion USD. Capitalism is clearly broken lol.

 

[Marat]

great, doesnt change the fact that an average wage used to give you enough money to actually buy a house. that ratio has gone up 400% since 1970.

And that bravey is primarily the result of the emancipation of women and their entry into the workforce. All that extra work, all that extra income, has done little more than to drive up housing prices and line the pockets of the bosses and the developers leaving the average family worse off despite the double income.

 

[Papa G]

Many of you can console yourselves in the fact we are currently living in a massive bubble and shit will start crashing down soon. Share market record high. Property record high. Interest Rates record low. The House of cards speculative shite crypto is.
The day of reckoning is coming.

 

[Del165198]

And that bravey is primarily the result of the emancipation of women and their entry into the workforce. All that extra work, all that extra income, has done little more than to drive up housing prices and line the pockets of the bosses and the developers leaving the average family worse off despite the double income.

reckon it's more to do with the number of investors these days. for the last 30 years property has been the golden ticket investment.

 

[Del165198]

Many of you can console yourselves in the fact we are currently living in a massive bubble and sh*t will start crashing down soon. Share market record high. Property record high. Interest Rates record low. The House of cards speculative sh*te crypto is.
The day of reckoning is coming.

there's got to be an absolute shit ton of people with 500k+ mortgages out there that are right on the margins of being able to meet their repayments.
a rise of even 1% will smash people around

 

[El Zorro]

With a bit of trepidation I’ll share my story.
I did everything ‘right’: went to a good school, always employed, bought a house (instead of wasting my money on avocado toast ), fell in love and decided to get married.
Due to the nature of my husbands employment we decided that his career would be the priority and we would have a more ‘traditional’ marriage so I quit my job, sold my unit and moved around the country with him.
I worked at the beginning of the marriage until we decided to have children, at which point I became a stay at home mum, (we could afford this without government assistance).
I was a stay at home mum to a toddler and pregnant with number 2 when he informed me that as soon as the baby was born he would be leaving us and moving to another state with the woman he was having an affair with.
I arrived back home in Adelaide as a welfare dependent single mother with a newborn and a toddler.
I was incredibly blessed, thanks to welfare and homestart I was able to use my share of our savings to purchase a house, paying much less on a mortgage than I would have on rent. I was also blessed to have healthy children and be healthy and very capable myself so was able to live a modest but comfortable life on welfare.
Welfare enabled me to raise my babies and retrain to secure a decent career that gives me the ability to provide for my children financially as well as being there for them physically.
I am so incredibly grateful that I live in a country where this support is available and shudder to think of what myself and my children would have had to endure if we lived in other parts of the world.
There are always going to be those that rort any system, and I’m happy to accept that if it means people like me can get help in their time of need.



I bought a fridge and installed heating with mine

Thanks for sharing and glad to see things worked out for you thanks to your own strengths and some welfare support.

I have been lucky in never having the need to receive any welfare in my life (we did get 5k when our daughter was born, that went into our mortgage) and have been on a good income for most of my working life so I have paid a good amount of taxes. I feel privileged that my taxes go to support people like you.

I don't want a cent of my taxes going to Gerry ****ing Harvey and his type.

 

[joyful]

So where was your husband in all of this - content that other people work hard to pay to raise his children?

It is unreasonable to expect a hard working man to use his hard earnt money to support his wife and children is it not? In truth you would be surprised at how many people have an attitude like this, male and female.
It does make welfare a bit of a double edged sword, on one hand it gives the parent left holding the baby with the financial resources to survive, but on the other hand it makes it so much easier for one parent to walk away from their responsibility without feeling guilty.

 

[Papa G]

It is unreasonable to expect a hard working man to use his hard earnt money to support his wife and children is it not? In truth you would be surprised at how many people have an attitude like this, male and female.
It does make welfare a bit of a double edged sword, on one hand it gives the parent left holding the baby with the financial resources to survive, but on the other hand it makes it so much easier for one parent to walk away from their responsibility without feeling guilty.

Did you not get child support from your high flying ex? If he was on a couple hundred grand and you had full custody of 2 kids, he'd be up for $40k plus.pa

 

[joyful]

Did you not get child support from your high flying ex? If he was on a couple hundred grand and you had full custody of 2 kids, he'd be up for $40k plus.pa

He has always paid child support but is hardly high flying nor earning in excess of 6 figures, just comfortably middle class.

 

[chiwigi]

Did you not get child support from your high flying ex? If he was on a couple hundred grand and you had full custody of 2 kids, he'd be up for $40k plus.pa

and she still struggled, imagine life for those without an ex earning a decent whack!

 

[raptalia]

Luckily at 16 kids can get their own Medicare card and make their own medical bookings here, so if they want to get vaccinated they don’t need approval from their parents.
I have heard some interesting stories from the US (where else ) about anti vax parents making emergency court applications against the other parent after they suggest getting the kids vaccinated, claiming neglect and abuse.

Yes, thankfully my grand daughter was smart enough to make her own mind up. It will be interesting when the COVID vaccines are approved for 5+ in Australia. Then again it will probably get down to the same old vaccination argument.

 

[Harlott]

And that bravey is primarily the result of the emancipation of women and their entry into the workforce. All that extra work, all that extra income, has done little more than to drive up housing prices and line the pockets of the bosses and the developers leaving the average family worse off despite the double income.

Yeh I don’t think you can make that conclusion. It’s one factor. House prices were pretty steady until they started booming and plateauing from the 80s. I think a number of factors come into play. Overseas investors, people that already had investment property suddenly had their equity double or more so they entered the market again. Reno shows and how they would suggest you could make a quick buck if you bought a fixer upper. Banks becoming ridiculously generous in their lending. Generation X and Boomer parents helping their kids enter the market. That’s just a few off the top of my head.

 

[edgie]

Many of you can console yourselves in the fact we are currently living in a massive bubble and sh*t will start crashing down soon. Share market record high. Property record high. Interest Rates record low. The House of cards speculative sh*te crypto is.
The day of reckoning is coming.

People been saying this for years.

If it hasn't crashed with the pandemic I can't see it ever happening unless there's a world war.

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[edgie]

Thanks for sharing and glad to see things worked out for you thanks to your own strengths and some welfare support.

I have been lucky in never having the need to receive any welfare in my life (we did get 5k when our daughter was born, that went into our mortgage) and have been on a good income for most of my working life so I have paid a good amount of taxes. I feel privileged that my taxes go to support people like you.

I don't want a cent of my taxes going to Gerry ******* Harvey and his type.

Your taxes will always go to rich people. Harvey is the flavour of the month thanks to jobkeeper, but the rich are always maximising their tax returns.

I suppose no one here reads Anglicare reports because its associated with religion therefore inherently terrible.

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