News Dylan Grimes and Toby Nankervis announced as captains for 2022

[Mr Unbelievable]

Not sure why so many are triggered by co-captains.

 

[STRUGGLETOWN EST1885]

Dylan Grimes

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Dylan Grimes

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.3

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.4

4star

MG

136.0

2star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

136.0

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

3.8

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

and Toby Nankervis

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Toby Nankervis

Age

31

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

4star

CL

2.9

4star

HO

21.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

5.7

2star

HB

6.3

4star

CL

3.0

4star

HO

17.0

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

4.4

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

8.4

5star

4 time premiership players and first Tigers co-captains flag. Has a nice ring to it.

 

[STRUGGLETOWN EST1885]

God help whoever the Bloooze ruckman is at the first bounce in Round 1.

 

[Dr Tigris]

Tigers announce historic co-captains

Dylan Grimes and Toby Nankervis have been appointed as co-captains of the Richmond Football Club for the 2022 season.

www.richmondfc.com.au

I love it. Picked guys who will absolutely give their all. And 2 quite different styles. Just stoked.

 

[Tiger_Gas]

God help whoever the Bloooze ruckman is at the first bounce in Round 1.

is it still warnock

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Takes 2 Richmond Men too replace Cotch.
Says alot about Cotch and the burden he had too carry early on.

 

[strauchy]

I can understand Grimes being a captain, although how much longer has he got? 2-3 years maybe? I can see him following Astbury.
Couldn't be happier for him and he was my number 1 choice IF he was a few years younger.

Not sure I understand the Nankervis decision. Just doesn't feel right.

Good luck to them both. At the end of the day, it's wins and premierships we want to see, regardless of who the captain is. Go tiges!

 

[getthefooty]

Lots of people saying they hate the idea of co-captains without giving any reasons. That speaks for itself IMO.

There's lots of pros that I can think of and not too many negatives:

Pros:

• Ensures pressure doesn't fall entirely on one person's shoulders. Better for mental health of the two captains and potentially leads to better individual performance
• Grimes and Nank can talk to each other about the role with a shared understanding and mutual empathy about challenges of the role etc.
• Have complementary leadership traits that give a more "rounded" captaincy experience to the players
• Easy for someone to fill in on gameday if one of them is out
• Age difference ensures easy transition in a few years time

Negatives:

• Against tradition???? People not used to it???

I would've been fine with one captain too but don't really see why two poses so many problems - especially when the choices have been done so intelligently by the club.

 

[JackNah_8]

great choice.

 

[69vintage]

Hope Grimesy has better luck as co - captain than his brother did .[emoji15][emoji15]

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[peterbuch74]

I love it... Vice captains now between Jack, Jack and Dusty

 

[tropicaltiger]

 

[Ma Xiao Long]

Lots of people saying they hate the idea of co-captains without giving any reasons. That speaks for itself IMO.

There's lots of pros that I can think of and not too many negatives:

Pros:

• Ensures pressure doesn't fall entirely on one person's shoulders. Better for mental health of the two captains and potentially leads to better individual performance
• Grimes and Nank can talk to each other about the role with a shared understanding and mutual empathy about challenges of the role etc.
• Have complementary leadership traits that give a more "rounded" captaincy experience to the players
• Easy for someone to fill in on gameday if one of them is out
• Age difference ensures easy transition in a few years time

Negatives:

• Against tradition???? People not used to it???

I would've been fine with one captain too but don't really see why two poses so many problems - especially when the choices have been done so intelligently by the club.

Negative: it’s soft

 

[beema limapep]

Its just a bad decision. Why not have 2 senior coaches? Because it doesnt make sense thats why.

 

[tropicaltiger]

good move tigers, combined voting with thorough and obvious processes.

 

[beema limapep]

Lots of people saying they hate the idea of co-captains without giving any reasons. That speaks for itself IMO.

There's lots of pros that I can think of and not too many negatives:

Pros:

• Ensures pressure doesn't fall entirely on one person's shoulders. Better for mental health of the two captains and potentially leads to better individual performance
• Grimes and Nank can talk to each other about the role with a shared understanding and mutual empathy about challenges of the role etc.
• Have complementary leadership traits that give a more "rounded" captaincy experience to the players
• Easy for someone to fill in on gameday if one of them is out
• Age difference ensures easy transition in a few years time

Negatives:

• Against tradition???? People not used to it???

I would've been fine with one captain too but don't really see why two poses so many problems - especially when the choices have been done so intelligently by the club.

One captain is enough. If you have 2, you may as well have 3, or 5, or 12.

Whats the difference.

 

[Lsta062]

Ever heard the phrase "Too many cooks in the kitchen"? Or the adage "A Camel is a horse designed by committee"?

Basically there is a reason why ships and planes have 1 captain and one focal point for leadership

But is a captain’s duties on a ship or a plane the same as their duties at a football club?

I get the strangeness of having co-senior coaches because the senior coach ultimately decides the framework of how a club plays. It can get messy if multiple people are in a position to have the final say.

At the moment though, I don’t see that having 2 captains on an AFL football field as a concept is all that bad. A football captain leads the implementation of the club’s gamestyle and that doesn’t necessarily need a single focal point (unlike the role of a senior coach). A club may only want one if that’s what works for their playing group, but our club decided to go the co-captaincy route. I’m OK with that as long as the two captains work well together and the playing group can get behind the idea.

 

[getthefooty]

One captain is enough. If you have 2, you may as well have 3, or 5, or 12.

Whats the difference.

I think more than 2 devalues the role but 2 still places importance on the role whilst getting all the other benefits I outlined above.

 

[jreesosb]

Hell yes!!

 

[Lord of the Wings]

Lots of people saying they hate the idea of co-captains without giving any reasons. That speaks for itself IMO.

There's lots of pros that I can think of and not too many negatives:

Pros:

• Ensures pressure doesn't fall entirely on one person's shoulders. Better for mental health of the two captains and potentially leads to better individual performance
• Grimes and Nank can talk to each other about the role with a shared understanding and mutual empathy about challenges of the role etc.
• Have complementary leadership traits that give a more "rounded" captaincy experience to the players
• Easy for someone to fill in on gameday if one of them is out
• Age difference ensures easy transition in a few years time

Negatives:

• Against tradition???? People not used to it???

I would've been fine with one captain too but don't really see why two poses so many problems - especially when the choices have been done so intelligently by the club.

Other negatives are:

• The risk that the players won't identify with either player being captain.
• If you get conflicting messages from the 2 captains - who do you listen to?
• Risk of factions developing within the playing group. Those that voted for Nank and those that voted for Grimes
• Those that missed out Dusty, Flossy, Graham and Riewoldt get more pee'd off knowing they missed one of two spots instead of just a single role

 

[captain blood 17]

is it still warnock

**** mate, keep up with the times, it's Barnaby French.

 

[getthefooty]

Other negatives are:

• The risk that the players won't identify with either player being captain.
• If you get conflicting messages from the 2 captains - who do you listen to?
• Risk of factions developing within the playing group. Those that voted for Nank and those that voted for Grimes

Don't agree with the first - stronger chance that the players identify with both being captain.
Re the second, this is possible. But you'd hope Grimes and Nank would be mature enough to communicate with each other and send a unified message.
Re the third - again, possible, but highly unlikely you would think. I've been in many co-captain environments and there was never any hint of factions. Would seem to me a pretty immature and petty response from a playing group that openly speak about their love for each other regularly and has shown itself to be one of the most cohesive units of the modern era...

 

[tiger_tough]

Put's to bed any doubt who the #1 ruck is

 

[captain blood 17]

Other negatives are:

• The risk that the players won't identify with either player being captain.
• If you get conflicting messages from the 2 captains - who do you listen to?
• Risk of factions developing within the playing group. Those that voted for Nank and those that voted for Grimes
• Those that missed out Dusty, Flossy, Graham and Riewoldt get more pee'd off knowing they missed one of two spots instead of just a single role

Mate ,our guys are that close they dry root in the showers. Don worry aboud tit.

 

[tropicaltiger]

Other negatives are:

• The risk that the players won't identify with either player being captain.
• If you get conflicting messages from the 2 captains - who do you listen to?
• Risk of factions developing within the playing group. Those that voted for Nank and those that voted for Grimes
• Those that missed out Dusty, Flossy, Graham and Riewoldt get more pee'd off knowing they missed one of two spots instead of just a single role

no negatives mate only if you're a negative supporter or person, hearing benny gale speak it was the right call based on weighing all the data, player ages and personalities up against a one man captain and its huge demands.