News North's recruiting team resigns en masse
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No, he is doing a good job where he is now. Needs another 10 years there to finish the jobThey need someone with a proven pedigree. Might I suggest this bloke...
makes the case for a PP even stronger...but who will make the pick?
don't think it'll have any effect whatsoever since the PP is based on on-field results. we'll see how we go in the back half.
the PP will be given because now the club is an absolute rabble all around.
Ch9 reporting issues with JHF behaviour?
Wtf is going on at North
Wtf is going on at North
So we get rid of the 3 blokes who you've been s**t canning in the Logan McDonald thread and we get a priority pick?
You must think this is positive for North then?
Took over late 2019.yeah, we'll miss him terribly.
feels like a sacking was probably inevitable, we've done well picking midfielders with high picks (hard to get wrong) but the total lack of key position players picked up in the draft has been extremely conspicuous, and it's lead to comedy scenarios like 189cm Aiden Bonar playing on Harry McKay, and 186cm Kyron Hayden picking up Tom McDonald. Seems like he probably saw the writing on the wall and wanted to jump ship before he'd lost all currency in the wider footy world.
2019:
Shuffled back with Melbourne. Picked up a bonus 2nd round pick and a fairly meh 3rd round pick too. Moved out of the Serong slot.
Shuffled back a little in 2nd, took Comben, Mahoney, Perez. 2 projects, 1 role player
Added Walker for mature depth
Got Bonar for nothing
Added Matt McGuinness - 3rd tall kind of height
Analysis: Added some talls here but overall the shuffle back that was lauded by Champion Data doesn't seem to be working. Mahoney would do a job in a league average side. Perez is coming along.
2020
Phillips
Powell
Lazzaro (a little confusing another mid)
Spicer (rolled the dicer)
Ford
Corr, Atu, Stephenson, Lachie Young, rookies +++
Analysis: Phillips and Powell just haven't delivered this year. Wait and see on them. Stevo gonna Stevo. Young is ok. Jacob Edwards a long way off it. Corr for more backline depth. Lazzaro a funny pick given he's in line to be about the 9th best mid and 4th half forward, I guess you're looking for high character, low risk role player there.
2021:
JHF
Goater
Curtis
Bergman
Archer
CCJ, Greenwood
Overall I'd say Walker, Corr, CCJ and decent effort at finding mature talls. Whilst Comben and Edwards is at least an attempt at future talls. Goater a 3rd tall defender possibly. Bonar the same. Young a 3rd or 4th option maybe. Zurhaar plays like a 3rd tall key forward. TT and JHF should be rotating as 4th marking options across half forward.
With Xerri, Larkey and McKay on the list I guess the argument could be you've got 3/5 of a good spine and the bookends. No point going hard for the 2nd talls at either end. In terms of immediate depth a mature 2nd key forward seams a big missing area to take the load of Larkey. Ziebell has kind of done it, and the theory I'm sure was for CCJ or Goldy (or both) to be more threatening.
I think the North midfield should be up and running and keeping them in games and laying a platform for the rest of the side to have a chance. Just seems at the moment without Cunnington there's not a single North mid who's really keen or capable to fight the fight. JHF has a go. The rest are found wanting. Fix the cause of that and the list management will look better.
watchu talkin bout willis?
The NM Priority Pick thread, you've made 48 posts in it about how North's plight is a problem caused by their own recruiting team.
Out: Recruiting team
In: Priority pick
So naturally you would think this is a positive for North?
I feel so bad for North Melbourne that I don't even feel like trolling them now
Oh please…there’s nothing in this world that would stop you from trolling!!
yeah, we'll miss him terribly.
feels like a sacking was probably inevitable, we've done well picking midfielders with high picks (hard to get wrong) but the total lack of key position players picked up in the draft has been extremely conspicuous, and it's lead to comedy scenarios like 189cm Aiden Bonar playing on Harry McKay, and 186cm Kyron Hayden picking up Tom McDonald. Seems like he probably saw the writing on the wall and wanted to jump ship before he'd lost all currency in the wider footy world.
I think Luff is a smart guy with more insight than most on the game. The mistake North made was elevating him into a decision making role as opposed to simply an analyst role supplying information and data up the line. North’s exec at blame for this.
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They should offer Collingwood their 1st for Noble’s son.
We’ll at least need to think about it…
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He’s out of there.
******* hell. Another ten years of this, and its close to being a full blown Carlton.
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Nah we can attract more than 10 members and still have decent players wanting in
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He is a kid and still developing. Look at Lewis and Kosi for us. Both have taken a few years.
They were going to spend time at the bottom and were going to get a chance at other midfielders and blew their chance at a top young key forward.
You shouldnt reward terrible management. Otherwise West Coast should do it too.
At some stage if you think someone is a clever analyst you have to let them make some decisions. List managers from finance/business/analysis background are fairly common. St Kilda hired a banker. The Swans hired Charlie Gardiner as head of footy after being an lawyer post footy.
North also have Rawlings running the footy department and Noble as an experienced football manager. The positive of that is plenty of support and understanding on how they want to shape the list.
The negative:
Last year they split Rawlings job in half and gave the other half to Dan McPherson who came to the Dees with Roosy as an ex Swan.
Noble being so knowledgeable about list management and very good at attracting players might be sticking his nose in their or not happy with the list he's been given.
I'd like to know how Rawlings and Noble are going and what their relationship is like. From the outside I wouldn't bet on it going well.
I said North deserve 13-15 priority picks, as long as they're all mature state league players.
I also advocated for additional guidance by forcing you to trade picks for mature players.
Find me the posts where I've said the problem was caused by your own team? I've been one of the biggest encouragers of North.
Whether the move is positive depends on who replaces them. A different topic.
Lewis has special potential that he's starting to deliver on. Kosi I'm not sold on as more than a solid number 2. McDonald I'd put right in the middle of them.
If you can get a Kosi level 2nd stringer to support Larkey later then wait until later, don't burn pick 3 or 4 or whatever it was.
There's an entire thread on this, but in terms of short term Logan McDonald wouldn't be getting a kick at North. For the time being the far bigger problem is Phillips isn't either and nor is most of his fellow mids. JHF, Simpkin, LDU, TT with Anderson/Greenwood should be breaking even at clearances and running games out.
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Yeah im not convinced rawlings is any good at what he doesI smell a problem at North
