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The bombers have done us a favour beating the saints and swans in the last 3 weeks. However I do not think with the current outs, game plan and structure we are good enough to take it. Need at least 3 of the next 5.
 
If they do .. shitney and Saints are vulnerable

I want us to win all games but not play finals this year... longer preseason hopefully a better draw
Agree although Sydney have a really easy draw. As do the Tigers who will probably takes the Saints’ place.

Yeah know what you mean. I always want us to make finals, but we need to get things right in the off season
 

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Agree although Sydney have a really easy draw. As do the Tigers who will probably takes the Saints’ place.

Yeah know what you mean. I always want us to make finals, but we need to get things right in the off season
If we get shitney they probably lose 3 in a row .. still have a few difficult games to go and just lost to essendope and lost to GC at home as well and struggled to beat Norf at home
 
Not now. The Crows game will be the one that will bite us in the end. Such a disappointing wasted year on so many fronts.
Yes and no
Reality is we haven’t got our house in order. Somethings were out of our control others self inflicted. This has been evident in that we haven’t beaten anyone of note.
 
I did a predictive ladder this morning. I had us finishing 11th with 11 wins. And cop this...Gold Coast scrapes into eighth spot. Mind you, I was compiling the results with a Gold Coast supporting friend. But he does know his team, and seemed confident that the Suns will beat Geelong at Metricon in round 22.
 
I did a predictive ladder this morning. I had us finishing 11th with 11 wins. And cop this...Gold Coast scrapes into eighth spot. Mind you, I was compiling the results with a Gold Coast supporting friend. But he does know his team, and seemed confident that the Suns will beat Geelong at Metricon in round 22.
Couldn't beat Collingwood.. won't beat Geelong.

And I think we get 12 and finish 9th ..
 
St Kilda and Collingwood both winning really wasn’t ideal.

Season on the line next week v Sydney. Real 8 point game
You say it's not ideal.. but Shitney's draw is no easier than Collingwood .. infact it's harder.

And Saints draw is harder than them both

Rather be outside the 8 and reset for next year anyway
 
You say it's not ideal.. but Shitney's draw is no easier than Collingwood .. infact it's harder.

And Saints draw is harder than them both

Rather be outside the 8 and reset for next year anyway
Yeah saints draw is hard, but would have been even harder if they had lost to Carlton.

Collingwood have the easiest draw from here but will see what happens without Moore
 

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If we don’t make the finals we should be holding a full review of the football department. I’m sorry I just don’t accept that this list should miss finals. Where are we headed? What’s our plan?


Yeah, I thought that but we only have an A grade midfield, we have one A grade forward who gets little or no help. Our defence has possibly only one A grade this season in Dale and our tall defenders as a collective are C-. We also have never had our best team on the park. Having said that our coaching and team selection has been poor and justifies your call for a review.
 
Yeah, I thought that but we only have an A grade midfield, we have one A grade forward who gets little or no help. Our defence has possibly only one A grade this season in Dale and our tall defenders as a collective are C-. We also have never had our best team on the park. Having said that our coaching and team selection has been poor and justifies your call for a review.
That’s still a lot of A graders. How many do you reckon the average AFL side has?
 
It’s a result based industry where people are paid exorbitant wages. The club need to explain why this team performed worse than half off the rest of the league. We’re not the only team that has had injuries. We played off in a grand final last year. To go from second to outside the eight is just not good enough. People need to take responsibility
 
That’s still a lot of A graders. How many do you reckon the average AFL side has?

Yes we have lot of A graders but nearly all in one area the midfield. In total we have as many A graders as the better sides but we do not have the spread. That is why we nearly always win the inside 50 count but have had an very average season date. What do you think is the reason other than injuries?
 
Yes we have lot of A graders but nearly all in one area the midfield. In total we have as many A graders as the better sides but we do not have the spread. That is why we nearly always win the inside 50 count but have had an very average season date. What do you think is the reason other than injuries?
I agree we’re underperforming. Not fully sure why but injuries must be a big part of it.

We have most of the cattle we should need but a bit light on defence as most of us seem to agree.

I think there will be a full scale BF Commission of Enquiry if we don’t make the finals so I’ll reserve any further opinion until then (if that’s how it pans out).
 

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Collingwood have improved a hell of a lot under 2022 coach of the year McCrae, but the fact they are 2 games clear of us is an indictment of the entire football department this year.

We can’t afford a repeat next year.
 
Collingwood have improved a hell of a lot under 2022 coach of the year McCrae, but the fact they are 2 games clear of us is an indictment of the entire football department this year.

We can’t afford a repeat next year.
They won't have a draw as easy..

Geez there are some overreactions on this board
 
They won't have a draw as easy..

Geez there are some overreactions on this board
Where’s the overreaction?

You can only beat the teams you play, we’ve lost at least 2/3 games from poor team selections and another couple from failing to change it up during games.

It’s a credit to them that they beaten Dockers (currently 4th) away and also Carlton (5th) and Melbourne (1st). But based on the current ladder, they are the only current top 8 team we have beaten all year.

So again, where’s the overreaction?
 
Where’s the overreaction?

You can only beat the teams you play, we’ve lost at least 2/3 games from poor team selections and another couple from failing to change it up during games.

It’s a credit to them that they beaten Dockers (currently 4th) away and also Carlton (5th) and Melbourne (1st). But based on the current ladder, they are the only current top 8 team we have beaten all year.

So again, where’s the overreaction?
Freo was a good effort... we haven't played them and I expect to beat them.

Carltank and Melbourne had large injury concerns and carltank lost weitering when on top in that game

We haven't had that luxury against them... belted Collingwood by 8 goals and should have been more

They have had an easier draw given they haven't made finals in a while and we had the hardest, as rated.

Yeah it's been a down year but there have been reasons and only stupid people wouldn't expect a bounce back next year, especially with some half decent recruiting and injury luck
 
We can all lament the Adelaide loss, but that isn’t what has cost us.

We won’t make finals due to the fact that we can’t beat good teams!

Aside from Sydney at the start of the year (and we did try our best to lose that game) - who have we beaten?

A bunch of nobodies and no-hopers.

We have been an absolute flat track bully this year.

It is easily the most disappointing season i’ve seen, and there can be no excuses for the crap that we’ve served up this year.

If the club had any balls they would instigate a full review of every facet of the club. Completely unacceptable results this year.

I genuinely hope we don’t make the finals because papering over the cracks will not do us anygood in the long run.
 
We can all lament the Adelaide loss, but that isn’t what has cost us.

We won’t make finals due to the fact that we can’t beat good teams!

Aside from Sydney at the start of the year (and we did try our best to lose that game) - who have we beaten?

A bunch of nobodies and no-hopers.

We have been an absolute flat track bully this year.

It is easily the most disappointing season i’ve seen, and there can be no excuses for the crap that we’ve served up this year.

If the club had any balls they would instigate a full review of every facet of the club. Completely unacceptable results this year.

I genuinely hope we don’t make the finals because papering over the cracks will not do us anygood in the long run.

Agree. This is the first year in a long time I genuinely hope we miss finals because it'll just wallpaper over cracks.

However, do I honestly think those cracks will be fixed? Not a chance in hell, because they never are. Why? Because our club doesn't have the balls to address them and make difficult decisions, like telling the coach who is really in charge or addressing areas of actually need.

Perhaps we could invest in players that are built like footballers instead of recruiting underdeveloped weaklings year after year who still look like underdeveloped weaklings at 25. Perhaps we could get some proper assistant coaches? An actual backline? A footy
team with a backbone? A football director who can make the tough calls? the list goes on.

Ameet, this is your job, right?
 
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