Opinion Sack Hinkley 6 - Kochblocked

[Ports1870]

This is what our fan base needs to do but it won’t happen

 

[PatientMental]

The club internally sees itself as a small club and will forever determine success with how wonderful it is that we aren't permanently stuck in the bottom 4.

 

[dirty2]

 

[Crocodile Dumbdee]

If C4 is right about the board and the playing group, then the only questions for Ken are whether another year of supporter discontent is worth the undoubted toll it takes on him and his family and whether his longevity in the game is better protected by an honourable stepping down now or a non-renewal in 12 months.

If it transpires that batting on deprived us of Clarkson- I will never forgive Ken. But change for change’s sake when Clarkson (or Hardwick) is not an option, can’t be justified where it would truly alienate the playing group and threaten our financial stability.

If I were Ken, I would give the club my ok to speak to Clarkson. If he wants the job I would step aside. If not, I’d bat on if I believed we could make a GF in 2023 because only that saves him.

This is a crisis but it needs calm heads. People saying they will give up following Port or watching AFL all together if Hinkley stays are over emotional, unstable and hypocritical bed wetters who should be kept away from crisis decisions and their rantings ignored. If you care so much to use that hyperbole, the club obviously means a lot to you and your hyperbole is either disingenuous or biting your nose off to spite your face.

I want Hinkley to step down if that means Clarkson or Hardwick. But I was there almost every time the tarps were rolled out and next year I’ll be there come Hinkley or high water. I don’t really care about the bed wetters- them leaving will just make it easier to get grand final tickets which I hope to be collecting in 13 months whether Ken or someone else is coach.

We pay their wages. They are the ones biting off the nose to spite the face. Time for action.

 

[Schulzenfest]

If C4 is right about the board and the playing group, then the only questions for Ken are whether another year of supporter discontent is worth the undoubted toll it takes on him and his family and whether his longevity in the game is better protected by an honourable stepping down now or a non-renewal in 12 months.

If it transpires that batting on deprived us of Clarkson- I will never forgive Ken. But change for change’s sake when Clarkson (or Hardwick) is not an option, can’t be justified where it would truly alienate the playing group and threaten our financial stability.

If I were Ken, I would give the club my ok to speak to Clarkson. If he wants the job I would step aside. If not, I’d bat on if I believed we could make a GF in 2023 because only that saves him.

This is a crisis but it needs calm heads. People saying they will give up following Port or watching AFL all together if Hinkley stays are over emotional, unstable and hypocritical bed wetters who should be kept away from crisis decisions and their rantings ignored. If you care so much to use that hyperbole, the club obviously means a lot to you and your hyperbole is either disingenuous or biting your nose off to spite your face.

I want Hinkley to step down if that means Clarkson or Hardwick. But I was there almost every time the tarps were rolled out and next year I’ll be there come Hinkley or high water. I don’t really care about the bed wetters- them leaving will just make it easier to get grand final tickets which I hope to be collecting in 13 months whether Ken or someone else is coach.

If you're happy to support what the PAFC has become you'll be lucky if you ever get the chance to get Grand Final tickets again.

 

[bomberclifford]

UNBELIEVABLY CONNECTED

 

[thundercloud]

The Board don't want to be seen as pandering to what they claim to be a vocal minority (whether they are out of touch with the general supporter base is another argument to be had)

yep the protest/ white noise brigade / repetitive posters could well have seen a rebounding on what they had set their……./ to achieve. Hegel

TeeKray if this is the case should take some responsibility and resign for accountability and encouraging mediocrity.

 

[Portwon]

Geez we might get to part seven by the end of the day.

Wish there was some way to actually be listened too, to put across the emotion, the indisputable facts, the fear for our club.

Media narrative seems to generated from one side only you would think a decent media might dig on the other side of the tree.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

Yikes. That post from C4 is pretty gutting to read. It's going to get very interesting from here on in.

If they need a financial crisis to force change, I guess we need to give them one.

I can't personally give up my memberships because my seats are too good and I'll never get them back, but if I had basically any other membership I'd be gone.

I'll be actively advocating for people to not attend games in protest. "Dont attend round 1" type events on facebook. We'll see if we can get any traction on an in person protest at Alberton.



Disagree completely. How long do we have to fork over thousands of dollars by an administration actively thumbing it's nose at us before we take action?

I don't just want to follow a club that calls itself Port Adelaide. I want to follow the Port Adelaide Football Club, and if the club refuses to behave in the right way, it's our duty as supporters to drag them kicking and screaming back to where the club belongs.

If we had any other lever to pull, we'd be doing so. If revenue is the only thing these people understand, then we hit them there.

You may be able to put a 1 year hold on your membership/seat. If you make some BS story up about going to live OS for a year or something.

 

[Jojay]

EAgree with everything said here. Found myself giving less and less of a s**t over the last few years and Dixon's comments were probably the final straw.

Saturday night was the first home game I've voluntarily missed (probably in our entire AFL history) and I didn't regret it for one second.

Why sit there trying to support a bunch of scrubs you have absolutely zero respect for or connection to?

Hopefully it's not too late and the emotional connection isn't gone for good once old mate decides he's finally taken enough money from the members.

Agree. Those dixon comments were a bridge too far for me. I wish he never came to our club coz he definitely isn't Port Adelaide - another disgraceful decision that can be linked back to Hinkley.

 

[JUSTWORK]

FK we need to take the club back from the AFL. Min, 70% of board positions must be member appointed.

 

[dirty2]

Fitzroy has it's on section on bf... This will end up the same... A place for people who used to support port until Koch ken and co.. killed port off.

 

[Portology]

The atmosphere at the club from Ken through to the coaches and players is one that places emphasis on everyone being happy and "connected." The fact that the footy dept were upset by Koch's comments is the evidence you need to be clear that there is absolutely zero ruthlessness in the organisation. Ken and Co have fostered this environment for too long. Everyone is comfortable and life is good, regardless of results. They pay lip service to being accountable for performance, because lets be honest, there are only consequences for performance when Ken doesn't like you (Wingard, Ladhams, Hayes etc). How on earth DBJ has not been dropped this year is staggering. Boak's *ing doco personified it too. Winning footy games is not the priority. I understand that connection and people pulling in the same direction is incredibly important, but it should not come at the cost of ruthlessly doing whatever it takes to try and win and be better.

How does a club let the coach and his cronies run a campaign to support a guy who has achieved nothing in 10 years? Where is Richardson in this? There is a dearth of leadership and its not going to get better until either Ken goes or Koch does and someone else comes in and flicks Ken and re-sets the priorities of the footy club

Thing is the extreme of "ruthless" isn't even necessary, just a choice of measured reasonable business risk rather than the slow doom of no risk at all.

Koch, fearing "instability", allowed Ken to develop a culture of unhealthy relationships with players that amplifies the threat Koch is afraid of. So Ken, having tried all he knows early on to win a flag at this level somewhere switched to doing all he knows to keep himself locked for as long as possible, squandering more recent opportunities. And even that would be... OK... if we had actually won anything of note at any time under Ken then had to have a crash-and-rebuild for a few years post his regime. But no, we chose to stick with stable mediocrity instead and let a mediocrity rule us by fear. Thing is the dip is coming anyway but without any memory of recent success to sustain us through it this time and pay some bills. Just a bunch of hollowed out happy clapper "Stepford supporters"... and a few angry older folks with functioning memories on here.

Can't believe Koch is this dumb from a business point of view, can only assume AFL House sets the strategic direction for Brand Port and Koch executes against it. Hopefully some historian with inside insight is in a position to write "The Last Days of Ken" in a few years time.

 

[Rexie J]

But you have to see that over the long term, mediocrity breeds apathy which kills the business anyway.

Football clubs sell hope. Port Adelaide can't possibly sell hope at this point. They're purely relying on people to keep their memberships out of obligation. Not a very stable way to run.

There's that word obligation again. It goes to the heart of why so many of us continue with memberships.

 

[Powerade 08]

Did you really need to hear it from c4 lol.

I rekon he still has 3 yrs left, especially if we're back in finals for 2023.

 

[Portology]

At least he call the umpires out

...and gets hauled to tribunal by umpires he appointed, for going too far?

 

[Harlott]

You may be able to put a 1 year hold on your membership/seat. If you make some BS story up about going to live OS for a year or something.

You can pay $100 to hold your seat for a year according to my ph call with membership yesterday.

 

[Crocodile Dumbdee]

Im not sure we are the vocal minority. As I mentioned earlier I mixed with 18 others all from different areas of the state, at the Richmond game and every single one of them want a new coach.

 

[Hodges 153!]

W


Who’s that!

Bazz Curtainz probably.

 

[philreich]

Why do we have a board, has any of them done anything in the past 6 years except stay silent on everything. I'm still not convinced holly ransom in a person, she could be a digital board member

Ransom is an ideal surname for a Port member right now - those in charge of the club are holding us to ransom!!!

 

[growly]

Not doubting what c4 is saying as he is normally spot on with his info. This time especially the part it will be kens call more than likely. But it's not over just yet, kens manager is still got the feelers out to see if there is anything better for Ken moving foward beyond next year
Remember he is NOT getting an extension beyond 2023. Would ken take up an offer of Senior assistant at Gws overseeing/guiding their new coach( yze) on big $$$ multi year deal? just saying anything can still happen

 

[Doctor Feel]

 

[Needs Gravy]

Only those who care about their own self interests and next opportunities would crave stability over winning. It’s pathetic they have been able to occupy the space at the club for so long.

 

[rainwizard39]

If C4 is right about the board and the playing group, then the only questions for Ken are whether another year of supporter discontent is worth the undoubted toll it takes on him and his family and whether his longevity in the game is better protected by an honourable stepping down now or a non-renewal in 12 months.

If it transpires that batting on deprived us of Clarkson- I will never forgive Ken. But change for change’s sake when Clarkson (or Hardwick) is not an option, can’t be justified where it would truly alienate the playing group and threaten our financial stability.

If I were Ken, I would give the club my ok to speak to Clarkson. If he wants the job I would step aside. If not, I’d bat on if I believed we could make a GF in 2023 because only that saves him.

This is a crisis but it needs calm heads. People saying they will give up following Port or watching AFL all together if Hinkley stays are over emotional, unstable and hypocritical bed wetters who should be kept away from crisis decisions and their rantings ignored. If you care so much to use that hyperbole, the club obviously means a lot to you and your hyperbole is either disingenuous or biting your nose off to spite your face.

I want Hinkley to step down if that means Clarkson or Hardwick. But I was there almost every time the tarps were rolled out and next year I’ll be there come Hinkley or high water. I don’t really care about the bed wetters- them leaving will just make it easier to get grand final tickets which I hope to be collecting in 13 months whether Ken or someone else is coach.

You don’t have to worry about grand finals under Ken.

 

[Hodges 153!]

I don't know who Matt Turner is but I like him.

MT is legit Ports.

Always used to sit front row near me at AAMI.