Jenkins, Higgins were great pickups
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Jenkins cost us next to nothing, a late pick in the draft in which we picked up Max Holmes.
Higgins was a waste. No cats fan disagrees.
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Jenkins cost us next to nothing, a late pick in the draft in which we picked up Max Holmes.
Higgins was a waste. No cats fan disagrees.
Pretty sobering when you realise contested marks don’t add squat to the scoreboard for the teams he has played for.
If Usain Bolt played AFL you know he’d probably never have to ever take a contested mark, right?
Ricketz
Norm Smith Medallist
Scoring metrics - Tom clearly the most complete game.
Wojcinski
Brownlow Medallist
what use is a contested mark if it doesn't result in a goal or goal assist though?
Ricketz
Norm Smith Medallist
Possession metrics.
Ricketz
Norm Smith Medallist
Not sure what the last decade has to do with anything? Are they picking AA teams on your glory days?
eth-dog
Tier 1 WW Player
You mean his childhood, yeah?
you have missed one very important stat
most goals created from turnovers forced by pressure acts
The Deep Dive: The AFL's pressure beasts
There are many ways to judge an AFL player's in-game influence, but don't forget about perhaps the most crucial element in this sport - pressure.
I have provided you a link for your enjoyment
here is the table that's relevant
MOST POINTS CREATED FROM TURNOVERS FORCED BY PRESSURE ACTS
| PLAYER | CLUB | MATCHES | TURNOVERS FORCED | POINTS CREATED |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Maurice Rioli | Richmond | 12 | 46 | 106 |
| Lincoln McCarthy | Brisbane Lions | 20 | 59 | 99 |
| Nick Holman | Gold Coast Suns | 20 | 87 | 98 |
| Brad Close | Geelong Cats | 20 | 64 | 90 |
| Will Hayward | Sydney Swans | 20 | 66 | 86 |
| Hugh McCluggage | Brisbane Lions | 19 | 83 | 81 |
| Charlie Cameron | Brisbane Lions | 20 | 59 | 81 |
| Lachie Neale | Brisbane Lions | 20 | 79 | 80 |
| Zac Bailey | Brisbane Lions | 19 | 72 | 75 |
| Tom J. Lynch | Richmond | 16 | 35 | 75 |
There is only 1 KPF on this list, and he has played less game than all the other KPF that are in contention but he still wins in this stat.
Guess what, its Tom Lynch !
- Feb 12, 2017
- 16,577
- 43,419
- AFL Club
- Geelong
Brad Close for AA squad.you have missed one very important stat
most goals created from turnovers forced by pressure acts
The Deep Dive: The AFL's pressure beasts
There are many ways to judge an AFL player's in-game influence, but don't forget about perhaps the most crucial element in this sport - pressure.www.espn.com.au
I have provided you a link for your enjoyment
here is the table that's relevant
MOST POINTS CREATED FROM TURNOVERS FORCED BY PRESSURE ACTS
PLAYER CLUB MATCHES TURNOVERS FORCED POINTS CREATED Maurice Rioli Richmond 12 46 106 Lincoln McCarthy Brisbane Lions 20 59 99 Nick Holman Gold Coast Suns 20 87 98 Brad Close Geelong Cats 20 64 90 Will Hayward Sydney Swans 20 66 86 Hugh McCluggage Brisbane Lions 19 83 81 Charlie Cameron Brisbane Lions 20 59 81 Lachie Neale Brisbane Lions 20 79 80 Zac Bailey Brisbane Lions 19 72 75 Tom J. Lynch Richmond 16 35 75
There is only 1 KPF on this list, and he has played less game than all the other KPF that are in contention but he still wins in this stat.
Guess what, its Tom Lynch !
Ricketz
Norm Smith Medallist
Couldn't find a column to sort that would get Tom off the bottom so I could screen shot him with the other three - stoppage metrics:
Huh? Sure, lol - he is great at waving his hands and pushing people. Really scares them.you have missed one very important stat
most goals created from turnovers forced by pressure acts
The Deep Dive: The AFL's pressure beasts
There are many ways to judge an AFL player's in-game influence, but don't forget about perhaps the most crucial element in this sport - pressure.
I have provided you a link for your enjoyment
here is the table that's relevant
MOST POINTS CREATED FROM TURNOVERS FORCED BY PRESSURE ACTS
PLAYER CLUB MATCHES TURNOVERS FORCED POINTS CREATED Maurice Rioli Richmond 12 46 106 Lincoln McCarthy Brisbane Lions 20 59 99 Nick Holman Gold Coast Suns 20 87 98 Brad Close Geelong Cats 20 64 90 Will Hayward Sydney Swans 20 66 86 Hugh McCluggage Brisbane Lions 19 83 81 Charlie Cameron Brisbane Lions 20 59 81 Lachie Neale Brisbane Lions 20 79 80 Zac Bailey Brisbane Lions 19 72 75 Tom J. Lynch Richmond 16 35 75
There is only 1 KPF on this list, and he has played less game than all the other KPF that are in contention but he still wins in this stat.
Guess what, its Tom Lynch !
- Feb 12, 2017
- 16,577
- 43,419
- AFL Club
- Geelong
I think some of you are being a bit unfair here. Time to show some respect for the player ranked 10th for most points created from turnovers forced by pressure acts. 
you have missed one very important stat
most goals created from turnovers forced by pressure acts
The Deep Dive: The AFL's pressure beasts
There are many ways to judge an AFL player's in-game influence, but don't forget about perhaps the most crucial element in this sport - pressure.
I have provided you a link for your enjoyment
here is the table that's relevant
MOST POINTS CREATED FROM TURNOVERS FORCED BY PRESSURE ACTS
PLAYER CLUB MATCHES TURNOVERS FORCED POINTS CREATED Maurice Rioli Richmond 12 46 106 Lincoln McCarthy Brisbane Lions 20 59 99 Nick Holman Gold Coast Suns 20 87 98 Brad Close Geelong Cats 20 64 90 Will Hayward Sydney Swans 20 66 86 Hugh McCluggage Brisbane Lions 19 83 81 Charlie Cameron Brisbane Lions 20 59 81 Lachie Neale Brisbane Lions 20 79 80 Zac Bailey Brisbane Lions 19 72 75 Tom J. Lynch Richmond 16 35 75
There is only 1 KPF on this list, and he has played less game than all the other KPF that are in contention but he still wins in this stat.
Guess what, its Tom Lynch !
Yes, he’s created goals, and as it’s a list of the top 10 only, for all anyone knows, player 11 could be Tom Hawkins. Unless you can tell us what Hawkins’ number is, and compare it to Lynch’s, and work out the difference then there is literally no conclusion to draw other than he’s better at it, possibly by heaps, possibly by a fraction of a point.
I liked Tom Lynch more at Gold Coast.
Falcon3518
Norm Smith Medallist
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- 3,235
- AFL Club
- Richmond
- Banned
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Wtf hahahahahaha
Being able to take contested marks lead to more goal mate.
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Falcon3518
Norm Smith Medallist
- Mar 13, 2022
- 5,350
- 3,235
- AFL Club
- Richmond
- Banned
- #4,243
Um it IS resulting in goals hence why lynch has more. Wow
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Falcon3518
Norm Smith Medallist
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- Richmond
- Banned
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No I mean like most contested marks in one year since like 2012 or something.
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Ricketz
Norm Smith Medallist
Yep, that's great. I'm not saying he isn't a very good player - but his over all game doesn't stack up to the three key forwards ahead of him this year.
I get that he has missed games, but they wont pick the team based on what he has done or might have done.
Maybe on the bench, but four kpfs is a bit much.
No, they don’t.
The ball
Doesn’t know whether the person kicking it had to compete for it or not.
How can you not grasp this?
Yes it’s a great skill to have. However it literally does not matter one lick of s**t to the scoreboard if you still score through uncontested marks.
Are you seriously that thick that you can’t understand this?
If you’re a key forward and you can take a big contested mark in a pack of 2-3 players that’s fantastic.
Why is that more valuable than being able to continually get on the lead and take uncontested ones because your speed or positioning or leading pattern means you’re on your own?
As I said, Usain Bolt if he were an AFL forward would conceivably go through a season without having to even try and take a contested mark because he would always be getting into space.
To use an ACTUAL example, Jason Dunstall.
He was an inferior contested mark to Lockett and Ablett.
Didn’t seem to hurt his output much. Why? Because he was better at getting on a lead and not having to take a contested mark.
Ricketz
Norm Smith Medallist
I don't know any Geelong fans who hate him. He is a very good player.
eth-dog
Tier 1 WW Player
He misses because of those 4 games.
Ricketz
Norm Smith Medallist
Maybe. Maybe he would have had a Barry Crocker in those games anyway?
No point imagining what might have happened, as I said.
