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List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm

Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement
 
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I don’t think Fremantle will be offering up their first round pick to take Tucker of their hands.

That's not what I meant! I meant tucker has already nominated us so we are already a long way down the path. We might not look at Bowes for that reason... although personally Tucker be more wing and mid and Clark and Bowes off half back.... I'm all for all three as in theory neither we would get pick seven and only give saints a mid to late teens or even talk of a second which I can't see


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“I wouldn’t go back to Hawthorn after what’s gone on,” Rioli told The Age.

“It’s the only club I wouldn’t put my hand up for right now"

Should Brady be speaking to Cyril? 33 now...... how'd that go for a PR exercise!
Doesn't mention Clarkson just Hawthorn..
 
That's not what I meant! I meant tucker has already nominated us so we are already a long way down the path. We might not look at Bowes for that reason... although personally Tucker be more wing and mid and Clark and Bowes off half back.... I'm all for all three as in theory neither we would get pick seven and only give saints a mid to late teens or even talk of a second which I can't see


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I think that we will only look at one of them. Clark or Bowes. Bowes if he comes with pick 7is the better option.
 

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WILL HAWKS REVIEW CHANGE KANGAROOS RECRUITS’ CALLS?

The cloud hanging over the head of North Melbourne coach Alastair Clarkson will not dissuade players including Griffin Logue from progressing with their trade requests to get to Arden Street.

Clarkson will not start at the Kangaroos until after the AFL has concluded its investigation into reported allegations about Hawthorn’s treatment of First Nations players.

The investigation could take up to two months, so players like Fremantle’s Logue and Darcy Tucker will already be at North Melbourne by then.

They will not hesitate to be traded to Arden Street.

The Roos have been handed future second and third-round picks by the AFL but must trade them as part of a special assistance package, with the Dockers likely to request those picks for Logue and Darcy Tucker.

Logue was a former pick eight who was offered a four-year deal of around $500,000 at the Dockers.





SUNS DON’T WANT MORE PICKS

Gold Coast’s salary dump plans, first revealed by the Herald Sun this month, include offering up pick seven for a club to take defender Jack Bowes if they absorb his lucrative two-year back-ended deal.

The Suns are seen to be well over the salary cap this year so must realign their total player payment position for future years.

But given Bowes is a classy half back and the Suns need defenders given their spate of ACL tears to Wil Powell, Conor Budarick and Lachie Weller, what gives?

Not only will Bowes give the Suns cap relief, he is desperate to play midfield at a new club.

Keeping him against his will and playing him in a position he isn’t interested in doesn’t really suit anyone.

So the Suns will secure Adelaide’s first pick for Izak Rankine and hand on another top-10 pick.

The Suns believe they have enough early picks and are in a different economy to everyone else _ securing top 10 picks also comes with the downside of having to pay those players up to $450,000 in their third and fourth-seasons regardless of their early progress.



Dan McStay has finally told Brisbane he wants to be a Magpie. Now the Lions will be forced to sweat on compensation.


Brisbane will spend the next week sweating on the potential free agency compensation for Collingwood-bound forward Dan McStay after he finally admitted he was leaving the club.
The Lions confirmed on Friday McStay had told the club at his exit interview on Wednesday he was exploring his free agency options.
Collingwood will lodge a five-year $3 million deal as early as next Friday’s free agency opening, with the Herald Sun reporting last month McStay was certain to join the Pies.
As an unrestricted free agent the Lions do not have the right to match his Collingwood deal.
Despite some fan anger of the deal the Pies believe they need another strong marking tall who can compete with down-the-line kicks and bring the ball to ground for their fleet of small forwards and crumbers.
While McStay’s wage is not in line with his output after a career-best season of 28 goals he is effectively being paid a 20 per cent premium because of his free agency status.
The Lions will hope he could hand them first-round free agency compensation but he is more likely to be worth second-round free agency following their No.33 draft pick.
It will mean they have picks 15, 33 and 34 to help draft father-sons Will Ashcroft and Jaspa Fletcher, with Ashcroft the certain No.1 overall pick after being named the national carnival’s best player on Thursday.

Brisbane is still confident key defender Darcy Gardiner will re-sign with the club as they close in on his signature.
As a restricted free agent the Lions could match a deal for Gardiner but believe they are making strong progress given his determination to stay at Brisbane.
They still have cap space for Hawthorn free agent Jack Gunston should he decide to move north, but could decide to trade a later pick for him to preserve the McStay compensation.
Collingwood is still hopeful exciting marking forward Ollie Henry will re-commit to the club in coming weeks despite moderate interest from Geelong.
He is pondering whether to move back to his home town to be closer to his tight-knit family, with brother Jack saying this week he would love to play alongside the Pies forward.
The Cats first priority is nailing a trade for Tanner Bruhn, the local boy who is keen to move on only two years after being drafted by GWS.


HOW THE LOBB DEAL COULD GET DONE

Could Fremantle trading Rory Lobb to the Western Bulldogs for pick 29 unlock the Luke Jackson deal?

That is what he will be hoping as he remains in Melbourne awaiting movement on a trade the Dockers have said won’t happen.

Melbourne says it wants two first-rounders and a second-rounder or two picks within 10 (including one within the first seven picks) for Jackson.

But if the Dockers can’t find those early top-10 picks they could trade their first-rounder, future first-rounder and secure 29 from the Dogs for Lobb.

That deal will go down to the wire but it would also allow the Dockers to retain other picks to offer up to the Suns for Jeremy Sharp, who they are keen to acquire.

Melbourne coach Simon Goodwin made clear on RSN Radio on Wednesday the Demons will play hard ball on Jackson.

“Luke could be a generational type player. He is three years into a career and he’s going to be an unbelievable player, whichever club he goes to.

“If he was in the draft pick this year what pick would he get? You talk about what he is worth and then we have to maximise the talent and try to find the next Luke Jackson in the draft.”
 

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WILL HAWKS REVIEW CHANGE KANGAROOS RECRUITS’ CALLS?

The cloud hanging over the head of North Melbourne coach Alastair Clarkson will not dissuade players including Griffin Logue from progressing with their trade requests to get to Arden Street.

Clarkson will not start at the Kangaroos until after the AFL has concluded its investigation into reported allegations about Hawthorn’s treatment of First Nations players.

The investigation could take up to two months, so players like Fremantle’s Logue and Darcy Tucker will already be at North Melbourne by then.

They will not hesitate to be traded to Arden Street.

The Roos have been handed future second and third-round picks by the AFL but must trade them as part of a special assistance package, with the Dockers likely to request those picks for Logue and Darcy Tucker.

Logue was a former pick eight who was offered a four-year deal of around $500,000 at the Dockers.





SUNS DON’T WANT MORE PICKS

Gold Coast’s salary dump plans, first revealed by the Herald Sun this month, include offering up pick seven for a club to take defender Jack Bowes if they absorb his lucrative two-year back-ended deal.

The Suns are seen to be well over the salary cap this year so must realign their total player payment position for future years.

But given Bowes is a classy half back and the Suns need defenders given their spate of ACL tears to Wil Powell, Conor Budarick and Lachie Weller, what gives?

Not only will Bowes give the Suns cap relief, he is desperate to play midfield at a new club.

Keeping him against his will and playing him in a position he isn’t interested in doesn’t really suit anyone.

So the Suns will secure Adelaide’s first pick for Izak Rankine and hand on another top-10 pick.

The Suns believe they have enough early picks and are in a different economy to everyone else _ securing top 10 picks also comes with the downside of having to pay those players up to $450,000 in their third and fourth-seasons regardless of their early progress.



Dan McStay has finally told Brisbane he wants to be a Magpie. Now the Lions will be forced to sweat on compensation.


Brisbane will spend the next week sweating on the potential free agency compensation for Collingwood-bound forward Dan McStay after he finally admitted he was leaving the club.
The Lions confirmed on Friday McStay had told the club at his exit interview on Wednesday he was exploring his free agency options.
Collingwood will lodge a five-year $3 million deal as early as next Friday’s free agency opening, with the Herald Sun reporting last month McStay was certain to join the Pies.
As an unrestricted free agent the Lions do not have the right to match his Collingwood deal.
Despite some fan anger of the deal the Pies believe they need another strong marking tall who can compete with down-the-line kicks and bring the ball to ground for their fleet of small forwards and crumbers.
While McStay’s wage is not in line with his output after a career-best season of 28 goals he is effectively being paid a 20 per cent premium because of his free agency status.
The Lions will hope he could hand them first-round free agency compensation but he is more likely to be worth second-round free agency following their No.33 draft pick.
It will mean they have picks 15, 33 and 34 to help draft father-sons Will Ashcroft and Jaspa Fletcher, with Ashcroft the certain No.1 overall pick after being named the national carnival’s best player on Thursday.

Brisbane is still confident key defender Darcy Gardiner will re-sign with the club as they close in on his signature.
As a restricted free agent the Lions could match a deal for Gardiner but believe they are making strong progress given his determination to stay at Brisbane.
They still have cap space for Hawthorn free agent Jack Gunston should he decide to move north, but could decide to trade a later pick for him to preserve the McStay compensation.
Collingwood is still hopeful exciting marking forward Ollie Henry will re-commit to the club in coming weeks despite moderate interest from Geelong.
He is pondering whether to move back to his home town to be closer to his tight-knit family, with brother Jack saying this week he would love to play alongside the Pies forward.
The Cats first priority is nailing a trade for Tanner Bruhn, the local boy who is keen to move on only two years after being drafted by GWS.


HOW THE LOBB DEAL COULD GET DONE

Could Fremantle trading Rory Lobb to the Western Bulldogs for pick 29 unlock the Luke Jackson deal?

That is what he will be hoping as he remains in Melbourne awaiting movement on a trade the Dockers have said won’t happen.

Melbourne says it wants two first-rounders and a second-rounder or two picks within 10 (including one within the first seven picks) for Jackson.

But if the Dockers can’t find those early top-10 picks they could trade their first-rounder, future first-rounder and secure 29 from the Dogs for Lobb.

That deal will go down to the wire but it would also allow the Dockers to retain other picks to offer up to the Suns for Jeremy Sharp, who they are keen to acquire.

Melbourne coach Simon Goodwin made clear on RSN Radio on Wednesday the Demons will play hard ball on Jackson.

“Luke could be a generational type player. He is three years into a career and he’s going to be an unbelievable player, whichever club he goes to.

“If he was in the draft pick this year what pick would he get? You talk about what he is worth and then we have to maximise the talent and try to find the next Luke Jackson in the draft.”


I’m glad they answered their own question right under the headline.
 
Stein and Sproule I didn’t think were that bad as key position players, interesting moves when considering key forward and defence are their weakest positions.
They are the sort of guys that should be considered as DFAs depending on list spots.
We should look at Stein as cheap key defender insurance. Excellent athlete who’s strong one on one and a safe kick.

His two finals games last year were excellent.

I’m surprised they went with Phil Davis for another year instead.
 

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How are Geelong in the salary dump conversation?
Because they don’t pay their stars very much, well not the official on the books payments ;)

Their salary cap has become a bit of a joke, but the media and Geelong like to treat the general public like idiots by claiming these superstars are all playing for nothing out of their love of the club……… yeah right! LOL

Imagine if any of us walked into work and told our boss don’t worry about paying me much, I’m just here because I love it hahahahaha
 
They need us to take Hills salary if they want to get involved. That’s why we should be pushing for any Hill trade to go through for a very late token pick.
So we pay hill $900000 plus give saints a pick so they can get Bowes and pick 7?
Surely everyone can see how f@rked up this is?
 
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