Draft Expert PMBangers' (and ‘friends’) 2022 Draft Board

[GWS Goose]

Coby Burgiel surprised me

 

[Bastyy]

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A quickly put together post-player exchange period phantom draft for your reading pleasure, not my final one FWIW. There's a bit of this that's fairly well informed but as is natural so far out from the draft there's a lot of guessing work involved, and like I've said previously the names are easy enough to find a range for, but figuring out which club goes what way is a challenge.

Been rewatching some footage recently with the U18's season done and have become slightly more optimistic about the depth of the draft, but still believe that a lot of the guys I see as first round candidates would more than likely be second round types in other years. I'm expecting to see some bolters on the night though given that 'evenness' around 15 onwards, guys like Ed Allan and Darcy Jones may be taken a touch higher given their testing, clubs are likely to see a lot of development in fully unlocking that athletic ability on field and fancy themselves a chance.

Toby McMullin You reckon that's the beginning of his range or could he be a sneaky top 30 chance?

 

[eaglespremiers]

Overall I also am a fan of Phillipou, he was one I was keen to see grip his opportunities more coming into the year and he's done that well all things considered. I just don't see him as a safe pick to translate to the midfield currently, I still think he'll be a good forward that will pinch hit through there of course given his overhead marking and scoreboard impact, but it seems a lot of the Top6 ratings have come on the back of the 'Bont' comparisons. In comparison to MacKenzie, MacKenzie's consistency at higher levels stands out currently, I say this understanding that Phillipou played a bit injured during the Champs, but even when injury free he was in and out of games, just never really took a game by the throat like I expected.

Both obviously athletic, although I feel MacKenzie uses his burst a bit better from stoppages, and both can be playmakers heading forward. I think Mackenzie has better use by foot around the ground, but both are keen decision makers and good with their hands in close

Ultimately, I see Mackenzie as a safer pick, a higher floor but lower ceiling than Phillipou, and like how well rounded his game is. Phillipou has a lot of moments, but still fades in and out. If I'm a club with an already strong young midfield core coming through, then I'm picking Mattaes as that potential POD, but looking at the clubs in the top 10 there's not many I think can afford to take that risk when the relative safety of MacKenzie is an option.

Would be my absolute first preference to pick Mackenzie up with pick 8 and then Phillipou at pick 12.
Would revitalize our midfield in our draft.
Conversely would be bitterly disappointed if we lent heavily into the WA talent this draft (although I think Hewett is a player).

 

[PMBangers]

Toby McMullin You reckon that's the beginning of his range or could he be a sneaky top 30 chance?

Oh who knows, who knows!

I do rate him though, got some nice athleticism and class when he's got it in space and really should his ability to hit the scoreboard in the Country v Metro trials even against the tide. It's just hard for people that don't watch a lot of APS (me) to judge some of the kids doing all their work there, he's got some top 30 traits but I think on the exposed form in Champs/ NAB League 35+ is fair

 

[pushintheback]

View attachment 1534606
A quickly put together post-player exchange period phantom draft for your reading pleasure, not my final one FWIW. There's a bit of this that's fairly well informed but as is natural so far out from the draft there's a lot of guessing work involved, and like I've said previously the names are easy enough to find a range for, but figuring out which club goes what way is a challenge.

Been rewatching some footage recently with the U18's season done and have become slightly more optimistic about the depth of the draft, but still believe that a lot of the guys I see as first round candidates would more than likely be second round types in other years. I'm expecting to see some bolters on the night though given that 'evenness' around 15 onwards, guys like Ed Allan and Darcy Jones may be taken a touch higher given their testing, clubs are likely to see a lot of development in fully unlocking that athletic ability on field and fancy themselves a chance.

Mahoney pretty open in an interview that Essendon are after a mid. Tsatsas or Clark will be the target if Wardlaw is gone. A lot of similarities between Clark and Selwood so i reckon Clark will be a bomber...thats if they keep the pick. He also expressed a desire to move back in the draft.

 

[Mofra]

Thoughts on Edward Allen? Seems to move really well on the field (neat sidestep for a tall mid) and tested well athletically

 

[free at last]

Apparently was pretty average at PSA school

Thoughts on Edward Allen? Seems to move really well on the field (neat sidestep for a tall mid) and tested well athletically

boys

Thoughts on Edward Allen? Seems to move really well on the field (neat sidestep for a tall mid) and tested well athletically

Word on the street - was far from impressive in the PSA school boys football competition in 2022.

 

[eth-dog]

PMBangers do I count as a 'friend'?

 

[TDS7]

Rename the thread again Bangers, it's now the "Ask PMBangers if he considers you a close personal friend, ft. Minor discussion into some young players idk"

 

[PMBangers]

Rename the thread again Bangers, it's now the "Ask PMBangers if he considers you a close personal friend, ft. Minor discussion into some young players idk"

I miss when my threads were mostly simpsons memes

PMBangers do I count as a 'friend'?

If you are a supporter of my average calls, you are a friend

Thoughts on Edward Allen? Seems to move really well on the field (neat sidestep for a tall mid) and tested well athletically

Mobile winger with some inconsistent but occasionally damaging disposal, I think he's being ranked highly largely on the potential that comes with his size and athleticism. Could be a very good pick up if a club can help him learn how to use the athleticism and size more

 

[eth-dog]

I miss when my threads were mostly simpsons memes

If you are a supporter of my average calls, you are a friend

Mobile winger with some inconsistent but occasionally damaging disposal, I think he's being ranked highly largely on the potential that comes with his size and athleticism. Could be a very good pick up if a club can help him learn how to use the athleticism and size more

Very good to know

 

[Swiggy]

Apparently was pretty average at PSA school

boys

Word on the street - was far from impressive in the PSA school boys football competition in 2022.

Talk him down enough to get him to 30 lol

 

[Smythe]

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[4cunningTonneTruck]

So I'll use my last rankings from last year to make it easier, which was Daicos, JHF, Callaghan, Darcy, Gibcus, Andrew, Erasmus, Hobbs, Ward and Amiss, so combined with my current top 10 from this year it'd be;

1. Daicos
2. Wardlaw
3. Ashcroft
4. Horne-Francis
5. Callaghan
6. Darcy
7. Tsatas
8. Gibcus
9. Cadman
10. Andrew

11. Sheezel
12. Mackenzie
13. Erasmus
14. Clark
15. Hobbs
16. Ward
17. Amiss
18. Busslinger
19. Phillipou
20. Humphrey

Wow. Just out of curiosity what are some of the traits that has you rating Wardlaw over Ashcroft and JHF?

 

[mattyc75]

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A quickly put together post-player exchange period phantom draft for your reading pleasure, not my final one FWIW. There's a bit of this that's fairly well informed but as is natural so far out from the draft there's a lot of guessing work involved, and like I've said previously the names are easy enough to find a range for, but figuring out which club goes what way is a challenge.

Been rewatching some footage recently with the U18's season done and have become slightly more optimistic about the depth of the draft, but still believe that a lot of the guys I see as first round candidates would more than likely be second round types in other years. I'm expecting to see some bolters on the night though given that 'evenness' around 15 onwards, guys like Ed Allan and Darcy Jones may be taken a touch higher given their testing, clubs are likely to see a lot of development in fully unlocking that athletic ability on field and fancy themselves a chance.

Great haul for the eagles.
Keeler is a bit of a gamble but could pay off if he puts it all together

On SM-G973F using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[slowedawg]

Am I wrong in being a bit uninspired at what's available at the Dees first pick this year? Is there anything quality wise that we would really want? I'm feeling okay with us when flipping this year's first for next year if possible, nothing screams out at me at the moment. Maybe I'm just pessimistic but we need a key forward and there's nothing really that solves our issues at our pick, as Jefferson seems too slight to have a real impact any time soon.

 

[PMBangers]

Wow. Just out of curiosity what are some of the traits that has you rating Wardlaw over Ashcroft and JHF?

For Ashcroft, I see Wardlaw as having a higher ceiling without a significantly lower floor from their performances, and even then I feel like if Wardlaw had gotten to play more we'd be arguing he was a safer selection than Ashcroft. You can see the two go head-to-head by rewatching the first Sandringham v Oakleigh clash from the NAB League this year, but it terms of effort, competiveness, explosiveness, contested game and defensive game Wardlaw has Ashcroft beat, and I'd argue that their disposal isn't drastically different either. Ashcroft is silkier however and more dangerous on the outside and in offensive play, it's really a Clayton Oliver v Sam Walsh type of match up in a way, they're both really good players, and a lot of it comes down to preference, but as a pure match winner those contested types that can lay a game saving tackle just as easily as they can gather a game winning clearance are the ones you look for first.

For JHF, their midfield play is pretty similar and ultimately I feel like Wardlaw is just better in most areas involved there, particularly his tackling and again defensive game in general. I don't have testing results for either, but Wardlaw appears more powerful in general as well

Am I wrong in being a bit uninspired at what's available at the Dees first pick this year? Is there anything quality wise that we would really want? I'm feeling okay with us when flipping this year's first for next year if possible, nothing screams out at me at the moment. Maybe I'm just pessimistic but we need a key forward and there's nothing really that solves our issues at our pick, as Jefferson seems too slight to have a real impact any time soon.

There's a bit of that going around, and as I've said I don't think it's a 'bad' draft really, it's just a bit vanilla in the type of players available, and when looking ahead to next years crop, whilst early on the X-Factor there is exciting and probably makes 2022 feel a bit worse than what it really is. Jefferson will be one right around the range of your pick, and whilst he has his concerns I think he's a really solid prospect for a KPF, if that's what you're after then there's not much to not be excited about with him. He will likely take some time, but for Melbourne in particular it seems JVR is good to go from early on next season at least.

I'd also be cautious about trading into the future for specific types of players, there's a couple of good KPP options in next years first round as it stands, but like we saw with Lemmey this year it can change a lot in the space of 12 months

 

[slowedawg]

For Ashcroft, I see Wardlaw as having a higher ceiling without a significantly lower floor from their performances, and even then I feel like if Wardlaw had gotten to play more we'd be arguing he was a safer selection than Ashcroft. You can see the two go head-to-head by rewatching the first Sandringham v Oakleigh clash from the NAB League this year, but it terms of effort, competiveness, explosiveness, contested game and defensive game Wardlaw has Ashcroft beat, and I'd argue that their disposal isn't drastically different either. Ashcroft is silkier however and more dangerous on the outside and in offensive play, it's really a Clayton Oliver v Sam Walsh type of match up in a way, they're both really good players, and a lot of it comes down to preference, but as a pure match winner those contested types that can lay a game saving tackle just as easily as they can gather a game winning clearance are the ones you look for first.

For JHF, their midfield play is pretty similar and ultimately I feel like Wardlaw is just better in most areas involved there, particularly his tackling and again defensive game in general. I don't have testing results for either, but Wardlaw appears more powerful in general as well


There's a bit of that going around, and as I've said I don't think it's a 'bad' draft really, it's just a bit vanilla in the type of players available, and when looking ahead to next years crop, whilst early on the X-Factor there is exciting and probably makes 2022 feel a bit worse than what it really is. Jefferson will be one right around the range of your pick, and whilst he has his concerns I think he's a really solid prospect for a KPF, if that's what you're after then there's not much to not be excited about with him. He will likely take some time, but for Melbourne in particular it seems JVR is good to go from early on next season at least.

I'd also be cautious about trading into the future for specific types of players, there's a couple of good KPP options in next years first round as it stands, but like we saw with Lemmey this year it can change a lot in the space of 12 months

Thanks so much for the insight. Really appreciate it. I'm sure come the week of the draft my excitement will pick up, but you're right that everything just feels a bit vanilla at the moment.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Bailey Humphrey, please I can only get so erect.

 

[Wild Bill]

For Ashcroft, I see Wardlaw as having a higher ceiling without a significantly lower floor from their performances, and even then I feel like if Wardlaw had gotten to play more we'd be arguing he was a safer selection than Ashcroft. You can see the two go head-to-head by rewatching the first Sandringham v Oakleigh clash from the NAB League this year, but it terms of effort, competiveness, explosiveness, contested game and defensive game Wardlaw has Ashcroft beat, and I'd argue that their disposal isn't drastically different either. Ashcroft is silkier however and more dangerous on the outside and in offensive play, it's really a Clayton Oliver v Sam Walsh type of match up in a way, they're both really good players, and a lot of it comes down to preference, but as a pure match winner those contested types that can lay a game saving tackle just as easily as they can gather a game winning clearance are the ones you look for first.

For JHF, their midfield play is pretty similar and ultimately I feel like Wardlaw is just better in most areas involved there, particularly his tackling and again defensive game in general. I don't have testing results for either, but Wardlaw appears more powerful in general as well


There's a bit of that going around, and as I've said I don't think it's a 'bad' draft really, it's just a bit vanilla in the type of players available, and when looking ahead to next years crop, whilst early on the X-Factor there is exciting and probably makes 2022 feel a bit worse than what it really is. Jefferson will be one right around the range of your pick, and whilst he has his concerns I think he's a really solid prospect for a KPF, if that's what you're after then there's not much to not be excited about with him. He will likely take some time, but for Melbourne in particular it seems JVR is good to go from early on next season at least.

I'd also be cautious about trading into the future for specific types of players, there's a couple of good KPP options in next years first round as it stands, but like we saw with Lemmey this year it can change a lot in the space of 12 months

Is it 100% Cadmen is going to GWS or could they have jumped up for Wardlaw?

 

[PMBangers]

Is it 100% Cadmen is going to GWS or could they have jumped up for Wardlaw?

Unfortunately I'm not a GWS recruiter so don't know, but I'd be surprised if we went for Wardlaw given we've got 4 first round picks to worry about midfielders, and Cadman fills a big positional need for us

 

[weltschmerz]

Is it 100% Cadmen is going to GWS or could they have jumped up for Wardlaw?

AFL media saying they specifically want Cadman because he's happy to leave Victoria.

 

[4cunningTonneTruck]

For Ashcroft, I see Wardlaw as having a higher ceiling without a significantly lower floor from their performances, and even then I feel like if Wardlaw had gotten to play more we'd be arguing he was a safer selection than Ashcroft. You can see the two go head-to-head by rewatching the first Sandringham v Oakleigh clash from the NAB League this year, but it terms of effort, competiveness, explosiveness, contested game and defensive game Wardlaw has Ashcroft beat, and I'd argue that their disposal isn't drastically different either. Ashcroft is silkier however and more dangerous on the outside and in offensive play, it's really a Clayton Oliver v Sam Walsh type of match up in a way, they're both really good players, and a lot of it comes down to preference, but as a pure match winner those contested types that can lay a game saving tackle just as easily as they can gather a game winning clearance are the ones you look for first.

For JHF, their midfield play is pretty similar and ultimately I feel like Wardlaw is just better in most areas involved there, particularly his tackling and again defensive game in general. I don't have testing results for either, but Wardlaw appears more powerful in general as well


There's a bit of that going around, and as I've said I don't think it's a 'bad' draft really, it's just a bit vanilla in the type of players available, and when looking ahead to next years crop, whilst early on the X-Factor there is exciting and probably makes 2022 feel a bit worse than what it really is. Jefferson will be one right around the range of your pick, and whilst he has his concerns I think he's a really solid prospect for a KPF, if that's what you're after then there's not much to not be excited about with him. He will likely take some time, but for Melbourne in particular it seems JVR is good to go from early on next season at least.

I'd also be cautious about trading into the future for specific types of players, there's a couple of good KPP options in next years first round as it stands, but like we saw with Lemmey this year it can change a lot in the space of 12 months

Thank you for that awesome response

 

[Shadow89]

View attachment 1534606
A quickly put together post-player exchange period phantom draft for your reading pleasure, not my final one FWIW. There's a bit of this that's fairly well informed but as is natural so far out from the draft there's a lot of guessing work involved, and like I've said previously the names are easy enough to find a range for, but figuring out which club goes what way is a challenge.

Been rewatching some footage recently with the U18's season done and have become slightly more optimistic about the depth of the draft, but still believe that a lot of the guys I see as first round candidates would more than likely be second round types in other years. I'm expecting to see some bolters on the night though given that 'evenness' around 15 onwards, guys like Ed Allan and Darcy Jones may be taken a touch higher given their testing, clubs are likely to see a lot of development in fully unlocking that athletic ability on field and fancy themselves a chance.

Let me preface this by saying that I absolutely love, love, love that you have us getting McKenzie, as he's the player I want most - even ahead of Clark.

With that said, really surprised you don't have Ollie Hollands going to GC - given I'd say he's a near guarantee for them, IMO.

No-one interstate would touch Jhye Clark given both his affiliation with Collingwood and Geelong, so I'd be surprised if a club like GC went him over Hollands who definitely wants to play with his brother.

Rest of your Top 10 though, are exactly the same as mine, with McKenzie going to Carlton, Clark to us and Hollands to GC

Reckon that Essendon is the big wildcard, and I can see them selecting Humphrey given he's that big bodied mid they've been crying out for - which means Tsatas goes to the Hawks, Hollands to GC and Clark to us.

If Essendon choose Tsatas, then there's a really strong chance Hawks will go Clark...but then hopefully we'd go McKenzie, haha.

Awesome work as always though!

 

[PMBangers]

With that said, really surprised you don't have Ollie Hollands going to GC - given I'd say he's a near guarantee for them, IMO

I am fairly confident this won't happen