boncer34
Formerly "Dos23"
Clarko first day tomorrow?
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I get what you are saying, but I think you are overlooking the word “can”, as opposed to “will”. Just whether he is capable of it, not whether it actually happens.Not a big fan of the question posed in the title.
It suggests there is a strict "dichotomy" of options available - premiership or "past it"
So, so many things have to go right to win a flag, with a great number of them out of the coaches control (even a healthy dose of 'luck' itself is required of any premier).
This is especially true for the 'starting position' North finds itself in.
Clarkson could still be a quality coach (and a premiership capable coach for that matter) without North ever actually winning the flag. I suspect the likelihood is that Clarko will fall somewhere between the two extremes in his time at North.
If their footy program and list management is lacking stability then that's what they are going to be, a poor club. North are a team going through a full rebuild and aren't doing enough IMO to bring in extra high draft picks and established players as well as losing former high draft picks, it's all happening too slowly there for them.Melbourne looked completely cooked when Roos took over.
It’s not just the head coach that needs to change, but there’s a lot of moving parts in clubs and it’s easy to call them poor while they’re down.
Still a lot of work to do, but at least off the field the Roos are in a decent position. They need to translate this into wins on the field and find some more stability in a couple of other departments, especially their footy program and with their list management.
Cattle is there just needs time
Plus a pick 2 and 3 this year helps along with the 2 first rounders next year
Well it makes things intersting.It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of how many
And yet no one here talks about the ground work on what Ron Barrassi did at the demons from 1981-5 and Robert Walls did at Brisbane from 1991-5.If he doesn't it could be a similar situation to Kanga Kennedy.
Came in 85 from Hawthorn (albeit a longer time out of coaching), didn't win a flag but layed the groundwork, left in 89, and we know what happened under Pagan.
Not a big fan of the question posed in the title.
It suggests there is a strict "dichotomy" of options available - premiership or "past it"
So, so many things have to go right to win a flag, with a great number of them out of the coaches control (even a healthy dose of 'luck' itself is required of any premier).
This is especially true for the 'starting position' North finds itself in.
Clarkson could still be a quality coach (and a premiership capable coach for that matter) without North ever actually winning the flag. I suspect the likelihood is that Clarko will fall somewhere between the two extremes in his time at North.
+ Parkin Jeans and Barrass.Well it makes things intersting.
The last person in the VFL or AFL to get their 5th flag as coach was Norm Smith in 1964. That what I have heard.
Tom Hafey, Leigh Matthews, and Kevin Sheedy have tried and failed to get that 5th flag as coach
Wrong, LDU is 23 and will be until June next year. Wrong again, LDU has shown enough to suggest he is going to be a gun.Just interested in who you think this cattle is? LDU and Zurhaar have potential but they are both 24 so need to get a move along. Early picks don't always eventuate into guns.
Wrong, LDU is 23 and will be until June next year. Wrong again, LDU has shown enough to suggest he is going to be a gun.
With Alistair Clarkson taking up the reins at North on Wednesday, the question needs to be asked: can he put lightning in a bottle again or has the game gone past him?
Is he Leigh Matthews going to Brisbane or is he Denis Pagan going to Carlton?
He's got a list with lots of young talent but also lots of holes.
He's also got two top three draft picks to play with this year.
Will he try and use his old tactics here, or does he have something new up his sleeve.
(Please note this thread is for footy talk only, all posts about the ongoing investigation into allegations of racism at Hawthorn belong in this thread.)
Which still doesn't answer my question.
LDU is a good chance at winning the Brownlow next season.
LDU is a potential gun. No one would deny that. But one player doesn't make cattle. Who else is there?
I won't deny North Melbourne have a lot of young talent coming through. The concern is the quality's of young talent.With Alistair Clarkson taking up the reins at North on Wednesday, the question needs to be asked: can he put lightning in a bottle again or has the game gone past him?
Is he Leigh Matthews going to Brisbane or is he Denis Pagan going to Carlton?
He's got a list with lots of young talent but also lots of holes.
He's also got two top three draft picks to play with this year.
Will he try and use his old tactics here, or does he have something new up his sleeve.
No AFL or VFL coach has won 5 flags as coach since 1964.Yes he can but like the Rachel Hunter commercials, it won't happen overnight... but it will happen.
No AFL or VFL coach has won 5 flags as coach since 1964.
Got more of a chance of Vince Russo running the AFL or WWE or AEW LoL
Ah yes.... Let Clarkson walk like Vince McMahon when he enters Arden street at footy training lolMaybe more of a chance of Vince McMahon coming out of retirement. But I believe in Clarko!
Just like George Michael you've got to have faith faith faithhhhh oowwww
Ah yes.... Let Clarkson walk like Vince McMahon when he enters Arden street at footy training lolMaybe more of a chance of Vince McMahon coming out of retirement. But I believe in Clarko!
Just like George Michael you've got to have faith faith faithhhhh oowwww