The Suns have set on Dew

[TheSunGod]

If we take Dew as an assistant the Suns will throw in a first round pick too right?

Pretty sure that's how this works

Sorry wrong year - we need it for points for our academy picks.

 

[SunshineBoy]

The afl created this mess. They had a waiting to have license handed to them, they put all the wrong people in charge and it’s been a shambles. Southport had the base, the juniors everything

Imagine if the AFL had competent people running the show

 

[Noidnadroj]

Terrible call. The list aint ready for finals.

He was dead man walking during that second quarter versus the Blues a few weeks ago. Just an insipid performance with finals on the line against an average Carlton team.

He’s had over 5-years. It’s the correct call as GC just play way too much garbage football for a talented team.


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[HairyO]

Any chance this is the beginning of the club being wound up? In reality someone has to go to make way for Tasmania and out of the 2 of GWS and Gold Coast, Gold Coast makes the most sense in the long term

GWS had about 5,000 people on a beautiful Saturday afternoon after 3 wins in a row and when kids got in for free.

If that cant draw a crowd after 10 years in nothing ever will.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

That's not really correct. Hardwick showed genuine improvement each year. Starting in 2010 with 6 wins (73%), then 8 (86%) and 10 (111%). Made finals in his fourth season with 15 win season and for the follwing two seasons before the 2016 season, which was a disaster, but forced a re-set. Rest is history.

So in the same time frame as Hardwick, Dew lost Lynch and Prestia both to the Tigers, May to Melbourne, Charlie Dixon the year before he got there to Port, Aaron Hall to North, Ablett back to Geelong, Harley Bennell to whatever, Jack Martin to Carlton, O'Meara to injury / Hawthorn, Rankine to Adelaide, Adam Saad to half the league and Peter Wright to Essendon.

Now, remove like for like from Dimma or any other coach and see how they go.

From those premiership teams give Lynch and Prestia back, remove Riewoldt, Nankervis, Cotchin, Martin, Grimes, Houli and one or two role players.

Gold Coast's problem is retention, they need to fix it sooner rather than later or their entire existence will be nothing more than that of a feeder club where young draftees go to waste the first few years of their careers in obscurity.

 

[Noidnadroj]

Hardwick took 6 years to do anything at Richmond and it was less him and more that Dusty just came of age.

Hardwicks not going to do anything at Gold Coast so if that's the grand plan, this thread will just be bumped in 3-4 years rofl.

Wrong. Richmond finished H&A 5th with 15 wins in Hardwick’s 4th season.


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[tiger_tough]

Looking forward to Dimma bringing George Castanga out of retirement and up to the Suns with him.

Not sure if you're joking or not but I would not be surprised in the slightest. Dimma loves his role players and he says George might've been our greatest ever. He's only 26.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Fairly superficial take.

McKenna might have been "on track" on the surface, but the cultural issues in the team were immense. He had to go, and it's not surprising he hasn't landed a big gig since. They were getting by mostly on talent and the unbelievable play from Ablett more than anything Bluey was doing. "Give the ball to Gary" seemed to be the only instruction. Eade was never a supercoach, though was absolutely the wrong choice.

McKenna was sacked because he had run ins with Ablett and the rest of the God Squad at GC at the time (IE Swallow) who wanted to skip required training sessions to attend Bible Readings.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

Fair point, but it took Hawthorn and North even longer to achieve success.

Expansion clubs have never had it it easy.

Correct, Footscray were the best of the 3 expansion clubs at that time, North and Hawthorn pretty much swapped the wooden spoon for 20 or 30 years.

 

[Lsta062]

Can you name a successful Gold Coast sporting team ……ever

Yeah that’s true. I don’t recall a successful Gold Coast sporting team at the top level

 

[smasha]

This has the AFL’s grubby little hands all over it. 7 weeks out and can still play finals. What a shambles. Luckily, no one on the Gold Coast could care less

Lockettgate

 

[SunshineBoy]

Yeah that’s true. I don’t recall a successful Gold Coast sporting team at the top level

Rugby league have had four goes , AFL this is their second attempt, Soccer two goes, Basketball there goes and none succeeded yet, baseball one go

 

[kozi]

The infamous “total support”

If I’m a coach I’m quitting to save face the moment my CEO publicly backs me

 

[Profop]

So in the same time frame as Hardwick, Dew lost Lynch and Prestia both to the Tigers, May to Melbourne, Charlie Dixon the year before he got there to Port, Aaron Hall to North, Ablett back to Geelong, Harley Bennell to whatever, Jack Martin to Carlton, O'Meara to injury / Hawthorn, Rankine to Adelaide, Adam Saad to half the league and Peter Wright to Essendon.

Now, remove like for like from Dimma or any other coach and see how they go.

From those premiership teams give Lynch and Prestia back, remove Riewoldt, Nankervis, Cotchin, Martin, Grimes, Houli and one or two role players.

Gold Coast's problem is retention, they need to fix it sooner rather than later or their entire existence will be nothing more than that of a feeder club where young draftees go to waste the first few years of their careers in obscurity.

Argument will be that a respected, successful senior coach like Hardwick should improve retention and even make Gold Coast a more attractive destination for players wanting to get the best out of themselves

 

[jim boy]

No doubt some dodgy land deal was done at Carara so a select few could profit.

But it's a stupid location.

Getting a bus from Pac Fair or whatever is a huge pain in the ass.

Its even stupider when you remember that Carrara was originally set up for the Brisbane Bears

 

[Noidnadroj]

Gold Coasts problems are far more serious than the on field team.

Hardwick certainly is a good coach, but he is going to fix the suns issues soon? no.

Sorry but Suns are poorly coached. Every team has its up and downs, but the Suns still put in way too many horrible matches and uncompetitive quarters of football 5.5 years into Dew’s tenure.

Doesn’t mean Hardwick is the solution, but it’s very very clear Dew is not. Nice guy and a decent development coach, but to put out the uncompetitive garbage they still do so regularly means Dew’s time was up.


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[Lsta062]

Rugby league have had four goes , AFL this is their second attempt, Soccer two goes, Basketball there goes and none succeeded yet, baseball one go

When was AFL’s first attempt at Gold Coast? I never heard about that.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Yeah that’s true. I don’t recall a successful Gold Coast sporting team at the top level

The Bermuda Triangle of Australian sport

 

[Breretonisahood]

It took Footscray 14 years to play in their first final, it took Footscray 29 years to win their first final. It took Footscray 30 years to win the premiership.

This is Gold Coast's 13th season.

Except there were no equalisation measures in those days and the VFL was not pumping $$$$ into Footscray to keep them afloat. It was simply sink or swim. More is expected these days with the amount of money and effort put into the Suns.

 

[Hamingja]

When was AFL’s first attempt at Gold Coast? I never heard about that.

Brisbane played at Carrara

 

[juss]

Almost certainly Hardwick coaching from 2024 there, with the AFL boosting the contract to make it too good to refuse.

 

[M Malice]

Some other failures from more obscure sports >

Basketball – Gold Coast Cougars/Rollers (1990-96), Gold Coast Blaze (2007-12);

Rugby Union – East Coast Aces (2007);

Baseball – Gold Coast Clippers/Daikyo Dolphins/Gold Coast Cougars (1989-99);

 

[The Gulden Child]

Sorry but Suns are poorly coached. Every team has its up and downs, but the Suns still put in way too many horrible matches and uncompetitive quarters of football 5.5 years into Dew’s tenure.

Doesn’t mean Hardwick is the solution, but it’s very very clear Dew is not. Nice guy and a decent development coach, but to put out the uncompetitive garbage they still do so regularly means Dew’s time was up.


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5.5 years! Where did that time go!

I would cry if one of my kids ended up at GCS or Giants.

 

[Obzerva]

When was AFL’s first attempt at Gold Coast? I never heard about that.

Originally the Brisbane Bears never or rarely went near Brisbane, it was always Carrara.

The Bears were originally a pet project for Skase and his Gold Coast Casino from memory.

Also back then, the Gabba was a terrible shaped ground for AFL, basically a tear drop from memory.

 

[SunshineBoy]

When was AFL’s first attempt at Gold Coast? I never heard about that.

Brisbane Bears went broke twice Iirc and then shipped to the gabba where they enjoyed success after the AFL raped Fitzroy

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