List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread III

[joegreen]

Even Wemby is not generational..one of the most exciting talents to enter the NBA draft but placing the tag of generational on any rookie is really stupid in my opinion...a few rings, all NBA, MVP's and then place that tag but right now, he's just an exciting 7'4 wunderkid as they say in soccer.

Fair enough when judging someone at the end of their career, but for the purposes of assessing draft prospects the point I am making is there are truly generational traits that should be considered. And Reid while looking a great prospect, does not look like a generational prospect.

As to whether Wemby lives up to the generational tag is TBC. But the unique traits he brings as a prospect are generational.

 

[rickety]

How do you think he got the money to buy them in the first place.

Won it on the pokies

 

[The Nostradamus]

If we end up with a free rookie list spot and Jeremy Sharp doesn't get taken by either of the WA sides, I'd give him a crack on our rookie list.

His VFL season was fantastic, avg's 21.4 disposals, 8 marks and kicked 12 goals. He'd keep the pressure on Stephens and Scott to perform on their wings.

We will have a spare rookie spot or 2
Have 7 spots to fill and 6 national draft picks (likely to use 5)

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

correct, there's nothing for the media in admitting the truth

Imagine having to concoct three weeks work of articles about what the second best player in the draft is worth in a mega-trade of picks.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

Another point to the Harley Reid deal or no deal nonsense is that if the siren had sounded half a second earlier in that Freo game back in round 2, then we'd almost certainly* have pick 1.








*Assuming the butterfly effect of losing or drawing that game didn't change any other results for the rest of the season.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

While he may not be a generational player it would be nice to get him for the marketing side of things...

Nah, the pick 1's have so much pressure placed on them it's ridiculous. I'd rather just retain 2 & 3.

 

[justroyal]

West Coast keep simultaneously acting like they don't want to trade, but begging teams to make offers.

It reminded me of this, so I adapted it;

Oh my god this was ****ing fantastic

 

[justroyal]

I would make the pick 2 and a future first trade. On the proviso Clarkson corners them all and says ‘you little spoilt fukcers lost 20 games in a row, and when it mattered the most, you coughed it up. My hawks game, Cunnington and Ziebell’s last game, Ratts Saints game and his final game… nothing. So that’s why we’re going on this death ride.’

 

[shimaburnsgrieg]

While he may not be a generational player it would be nice to get him for the marketing side of things...

If we are burning a bunch of 1st rounders for a marketing sugar hit that can't be followed up with on field then we might as well hand the license back to the AFL.

 

[Heaps of fun]

Even Wemby is not generational..one of the most exciting talents to enter the NBA draft but placing the tag of generational on any rookie is really stupid in my opinion...a few rings, all NBA, MVP's and then place that tag but right now, he's just an exciting 7'4 wunderkid as they say in soccer.

We're talking about draft prospects here. If you waited for the MVPs you wouldn't make much of a recruiter.

 

[Harris 10]

Nah, the pick 1's have so much pressure placed on them it's ridiculous. I'd rather just retain 2 & 3.

Can you imagine the pressure on him at WC.
They have not much youth, older more popular players retired, no traded players coming in. He will be the main focus and most talked about WA player since Ben Cousins.

 

[justroyal]

Can you imagine the pressure on him at WC.
They have not much youth, older more popular players retired, no traded players coming in. He will be the main focus and most talked about WA player since Ben Cousins.

Good point.
Where he would blend in nicely around ldu, Sheezel, Wardlaw, and TT.

 

[King Corey]

West Coast keep simultaneously acting like they don't want to trade, but begging teams to make offers.

It reminded me of this, so I adapted it;

My God you've done it.

That's a generational meme.

 

[Amicalola]

How valuable are picks in the late teens usually considered to be? I know this draft is meant to be shallow, but to me two teen picks seems very valuable, a lot more worth than trading up one spot.

 

[ohmygewd]

We're talking about draft prospects here. If you waited for the MVPs you wouldn't make much of a recruiter.

Yeah but if l was recruiter l wouldn't be using the 'term' generational on any draft prospect because it's unfair to label him with that tag when it's not deserved!

 

[The_General#1]

The cats now have 7 spots to fill as well. This draft will push to 60+ selections.

 

[MRoos]

For comparison the average height in the NBA is about 1.98cm.

 

[The Nostradamus]

The cats now have 7 spots to fill as well. This draft will push to 60+ selections.

Pick 8 come on down

I’d be surprised if they don’t split it

 

[Heaps of fun]

Yeah but if l was recruiter l wouldn't be using the 'term' generational on any draft prospect because it's unfair to label him with that tag when it's not deserved!

That's fair. Recruiters generally downplay the prospects they like and leave it to journalists to hype them up. Nothing wrong with draft watchers calling someone generational but it is way overused and should only be put on kids that show athleticism and performances that either break records long held or show dominance in junior competitions not seen in the last two decades (give or take).

 

[The_General#1]

Pick 8 come on down

I’d be surprised if they don’t split it

100% agree. I said in a previous post. Kangas in a good spot to split it for 2 x first rnd picks. Then use it as part of the swap for the #1 pick.

 

[DocSholl]

If Walter was in the open pool we'd all have convinced ourselves he isn't generational or worth multiple picks too.

 

[shinboner magic]

If Walter was in the open pool we'd all have convinced ourselves he isn't generational or worth multiple picks too.

No chance we would of won the last game if he was available

 

[King Corey]

If Walter was in the open pool we'd all have convinced ourselves he isn't generational or worth multiple picks too.

You think posters are underrating Reid to make themselves feel better?

 

[ohmygewd]

That's fair. Recruiters generally downplay the prospects they like and leave it to journalists to hype them up. Nothing wrong with draft watchers calling someone generational but it is way overused and should only be put on kids that show athleticism and performances that either break records long held or show dominance in junior competitions not seen in the last two decades (give or take).

Yeah kinda agree but l really hate when they are just labelled generational as it works two ways with the fanbase - FMD he must be good or GTFOH, he's done nothing he might be a dud.
And as we start seeing in this thread, fans are already rubbishing him for that tag so imagine if we did nab him?

Anyway, l think Harley is a unique talent in this draft and he'll have less pressure at NM as No.1 than he would at WC...ol' 18yo Sheez has set a pretty high bar for a 'generational' talent to surpass in his first year

 

[pupstar]

100% agree. I said in a previous post. Kangas in a good spot to split it for 2 x first rnd picks. Then use it as part of the swap for the #1 pick.

I f we can jag pick 8 keep pick 2- 3 and get the 8th best kid with pick 8. But i am pretty sure we would probably use it to get pick 1 as you say.