Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 1

[dangerwood]

Not sure if he's been mentioned here but don't be surprised if Oliver Wiltshire is drafted from Barwon Heads. Don't know if Geelong are keen but he has been on the radar of some recruiters, Scarlo coach of Barwon Heads this year too. Might be a rookie pick.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Geez I hope we can get a power forward in Caddy.

I still think we definitely take sanders if there and we maybe take caddy at 8 (9) if there we probably only trade back if both are gone.
Whats interesting is if both are gone and curtin is there do we still take him or trade?

 

[MacStradbroke]

I still think we definitely take sanders if there and we maybe take caddy at 8 (9) if there we probably only trade back if both are gone.
Whats interesting is if both are gone and curtin is there do we still take him or trade?

Take him. As early as 3 in some rankings, with our pick we would take him I hope. I get we need to be creative and add as much talent as we can in a short amount of time but can’t ignore quality, if that’s what they think he is.

 

[year of the cat]

I know but i still dont think 25 and say future 42 equals 14 from their perspective (remember it cost them 2 20s picks to get 14 to begin with). I think we would have to give them our F2 (or at least 2 f3s if they want welsh points) for them to do that deal.
I dont mind edwards but i just prefer demattia for the extra speed off half back (which we need) and leadership skills. For the latter reason i see him a really safe pick like guthrie was and i think in thin drafts safe picks are a good thing.

You’re probably right - I was going on the basis that the top 8 (non academy) picks will come at a premium this year.

Edwards, to me, has better vision and lateral movement to DeMattia. DeMattia a bit more one dimensional. Edwards isn’t slow himself anyway. I’d be looking at him to play predominantly midfield rather than half back anyway. But we all see different attributes in different players.

 

[GeelongFTW]

Can someone explain why if we are so happy to trade down why other teams would want to trade up?

 

[The rabbi]

76 87 and 94 will end up in the late 50s.

But yeah its really either 8 25 53 58 and 60 or upgrade a rookie (dempsey) or take a dfa and dont use 60.

Are Close and Atkins still on the Rookie list?
The profiles of players on the Cats web page formerly identified Rookie listed players, but they are not distinguished from AFL listed players anymore.

 

[year of the cat]

Can someone explain why if we are so happy to trade down why other teams would want to trade up?

Adel only have a couple of list spots available currently unless they delist a further player. With 3 good picks they would want to consolidate them into 2 thereby trading up.

There’s also an opinion that the top 10 players in the draft have a bit of a gap of talent to the next group. Whether that is born out in the future remains to be seen.

 

[1990crow]

Adel only have a couple of list spots available currently unless they delist a further player. With 3 good picks they would want to consolidate them into 2 thereby trading up.

There’s also an opinion that the top 10 players in the draft have a bit of a gap of talent to the next group. Whether that is born out in the future remains to be seen.

Sorry to intrude. But I could see us offering 10 and 20 for 8 if the player we want is there.
I suspect that's Osullivan that we want.

As said, only 2 list spots, have frequently mentioned wanting to trade up, and at this stage of rebuild specific needs are what is required as opposed to multiple talents.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Sorry to intrude. But I could see us offering 10 and 20 for 8 if the player we want is there.
I suspect that's Osullivan that we want.

Yep that would be a no-brainer for Adelaide if OS is a player you are after.

If Geelong is eyeing someone else then it could happen.

If Geelong wants OS (or whoever of the top liners left at our pick) then 20 isn't gonna cut the mustard.

 

[1990crow]

Yep that would be a no-brainer for Adelaide if OS is a player you are after.

If Geelong is eyeing someone else then it could happen.

If Geelong wants OS (or whoever of the top liners left at our pick) then 20 isn't gonna cut the mustard.

Just thought I'd put in our point of view.
Can't see Adelaide offering anything more than 20 for a 2 pick upgrade.
In most instances 10 and 25 would get you pick 8 if the club trading down thought their player would be there.

Adelaide isn't going to offer 10, 14, 20 for 8 and 25.
That's basically saying 10 and 14 isn't enough for pick 8. Which on its own would never be done.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Can someone explain why if we are so happy to trade down why other teams would want to trade up?

Different clubs have different needs. For eg we might be after a mid and happy to trade down if sanders is gone. Adel might want to trade up for a kpd in osullivan and think that they wont get him unless they trade up. Ditto clubs wanting fwds like caddy.
Its also about trumping clubs-for example if adel or syd want leake and think that ess or melb might take him they might want to trade ahead of them. Whereas if we rate those 4 or 5 evenly we might be happy to slide back.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Are Close and Atkins still on the Rookie list?
The profiles of players on the Cats web page formerly identified Rookie listed players, but they are not distinguished from AFL listed players anymore.

No they were elevated last year. Rookies are dempsey murdoch hardie (riccardi delisted) cat a and mullin clohesy furphy cat b.

 

[BORIS332]

Collard is too much of a flight risk i doubt anyone outside WA takes him. Murphy is very much a development player. I like delean but structurally im not sure he helps us fill a list need. If we end up with 3 decent picks at least 2 of them need to be a mid and a quality tall.

Like I said, high risk, high reward. Your thinking is what led to Shai Bolton sliding to pick 29. Collard could have the most raw talent out of anyone in this draft. If we had three picks inside 25 I'd be more than happy to take a punt.

 

[CatRiot]

Are we taking another Irish kid?

I thought it was mentioned we were looking at 4 of them with other clubs... whether we take 1, not sure.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Can't see Adelaide offering anything more than 20 for a 2 pick upgrade.
In most instances 10 and 25 would get you pick 8 if the club trading down thought their player would be there.

Adelaide isn't going to offer 10, 14, 20 for 8 and 25.
That's basically saying 10 and 14 isn't enough for pick 8. Which on its own would never be done.

It simply depends on the player they could get with the upgrade and how much they want him.

If it's a player both clubs want, I just don't see Geelong giving him up to Adelaide for #20.

Time will tell but all this stuff really depends on the players available on the night and how bad other clubs want them.

 

[year of the cat]

Just thought I'd put in our point of view.
Can't see Adelaide offering anything more than 20 for a 2 pick upgrade.
In most instances 10 and 25 would get you pick 8 if the club trading down thought their player would be there.

Adelaide isn't going to offer 10, 14, 20 for 8 and 25.
That's basically saying 10 and 14 isn't enough for pick 8. Which on its own would never be done.

There might be a future pick come back Adelaide’s way to make it more palatable. But it’s a bit like selling a house - the market determines the value which can change.

 

[Hamingja]

Are we taking another Irish kid?

I thought it was mentioned we were looking at 4 of them with other clubs... whether we take 1, not sure.

I think you only have two 2 cat B spots? Mullin & Furphy?

Edit: Looks like you can only have 1 Irish Cat B. So if we took another they would become a regular rookie.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Like I said, high risk, high reward. Your thinking is what led to Shai Bolton sliding to pick 29. Collard could have the most raw talent out of anyone in this draft. If we had three picks inside 25 I'd be more than happy to take a punt.

Shai bolton wasnt anywhere near as much of a flight risk as collard though he actually wanted to be in vic. Collard couldnt last the champs without homesickness. Fair difference imo. But i take your point about the talent.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Shai Bolton

15

Shai Bolton

Age

26

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

went about one selection after Parf from memory

Mates and the only NT players taken... And we took the wrong one.

In saying that with sliding doors moments I'm not sure I'd change it even if I could go back in time.

 

[Lana]

St Kilda is commiting to drafting at least one player per year from their VFL alignment each year.

 

[Turbocat]

Where is Goad going. R2? .... seems a very mobile tall with upside.

 

[MacStradbroke]

Not sure if he's been mentioned here but don't be surprised if Oliver Wiltshire is drafted from Barwon Heads. Don't know if Geelong are keen but he has been on the radar of some recruiters, Scarlo coach of Barwon Heads this year too. Might be a rookie pick.

Watched him kick a few nice goals in a final against Drysdale, certainly knows where the big sticks are.

edit - looked up stats, see he bagged 12 against Modda earlier in the year

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Where is Goad going. R2? .... seems a very mobile tall with upside.

Twomey has him at 30 in his rankings..i think thats reasonable for me because the draft is thin after r1 anywhere after 20 id be ok with him being taken.

 

[Turbocat]

Twomey has him at 30 in his rankings..i think thats reasonable for me because the draft is thin after r1 anywhere after 20 id be ok with him being taken.

I sort of like Lana's idea of going a bit heavy in talls. As you know I have liked Goad since the champs. Both him and Edwards probably cost a bit more than Pike but as you say...in a thin draft .. players like him might reward long term

 

[Turbocat]

Year 12 exams

stupid schoool ... how dare they interfere with the draft